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4.7 on IMDb unweighted. 7.0 when 'corrected'.

posted a year ago by [deleted]
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Unusual activity
Our rating mechanism has detected unusual voting activity on this title. To preserve the reliability of our rating system, an alternate weighting calculation has been applied.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5971474/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt

What are your thoughts on IMDb 'correcting' ratings? It's dishonest and makes the whole thing a rigged farce.

In saying that I don't doubt this has been brigaded and many of the 1/10s are from people who haven't even seen it.

Still I don't like them changing ratings. For what purpose do they do so? They claim to preserve the reliability, by silencing users, by ignoring many of them because you simply won't allow a film to have a poor rating?

It's not lost on me that this only seems to happen on big movies with a lot of money at stake. I don't see IMDb correcting Queen Cleopatra, a netflix show that undoubtedly got brigaded also. It's got a 1.1, a flat 1.0 is the absolute lowest potential score possible for a film or show!!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27528139/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt

Why is The Little Mermaid protected and Queen Cleopatra isn't?

Disney applying pressure to IMDb to try prevent scaring potential viewers away due to poor reviews?

[–] Xcalat3 (3701) a year ago

//Why is The Little Mermaid protected and Queen Cleopatra isn't?//

Perhaps Disney are willing to pay imdb/amazon a lot of money to "protect" their new mermaid and maybe NETFLIX did not think Woke Cleopatra was worth it.

[–] [deleted] a year ago

That's the annoying thing. It's all business. They don't give a damn about what rating what film has on their site, why should they as it's ultimately quite meaningless. It's clear when a film has a lot of money riding on it that IMDb will actively prevent it from getting a negative rating.

Basically a propaganda piece for movie studios.

They also had a decable with that Lord of the Rings show. They blocked user reviews early on to try stave off negative word of mouth, that was particualrly egregious as Amazon owns IMDb and it was Amazon who produced the show!!

[–] fc31 (4561) a year ago

It has been that way for quite a while, and there were even more direct actions: https://moviechat.org/tt7631058/The-Lord-of-the-Rings-The-Rings-of-Power/63159f085890d00c22fe3784/All-negative-reviews-disappear-and-rating-goes-up-overnight

[–] leader (1689) a year ago

Sadly it has been known for a long time that IMDB manipulates votes and user reviews.

[–] JoWilli (15149) a year ago

yeah, its standard practice for woke movies...

[–] asom (6509) a year ago

And I wonder how they determine the "weighted" score.

Do they remove all the 1,2,3 ratings from calculating it while keeping all the 10s?

Would only be fair, right? RIGHT?

[–] darkpast (8033) a year ago

review bombing

[–] NoEasyBuckets (334) a year ago

These companies have hundreds of millions of dollars on the line so of course they are going to fight back against review bombing. There are people who are visiting IMDB with no agenda that just want to know if a movie is worth seeing or not. So yeah I'm sure it has a higher score than it should but it's not like the alternative would be an accurate score either. This wouldn't be a problem if people would just review movies they've seen and ignored the ones they have no interest in.

[–] Narwhale37 (696) a year ago

I guess the difference is that it impacts box office numbers rather than just being something you can watch in Netflix. Also I'd imagine the Cleopatra 1/10s are more understandable.

Meanwhile pretty much no one who ACTUALLY has watched The Little Mermaid remake has given it a 1/10. We know this because Rotten Tomatoes actually has verified watcher reviews vs everyone and "surprisingly" there's a huge disparity.

[–] Kowalski (57933) a year ago

1/10 IS A RIDICULOUSLY LOW SCORE...FOR ANY MOVIE...I WATCH A LOT OF MOVIES AND RANK THEM ALL ON LETTERBOXD...A 1/10 DENOTES A BOTTOM OF THE TRASHCAN,CHEAP LOOKING,POORLY ACTED,WRITTEN,AND DIRECTED FILTH.

[–] Narwhale37 (696) a year ago

Pretty much. I can count all of the 1/10s I've ever watched on one hand.

Either the movie has to be outright terrible with ZERO redeeming qualities like you said (see The Last Airbender) or it has to expertly increase your expectations just to completely collapse before your eyes (see The Last Jedi).

[–] asom (6509) a year ago

And you trust the "verified watchers" rating of 95%?? LOL.

[–] Narwhale37 (696) a year ago

Yeah. Why shouldn't I? It's a generally good movie. Most of the outright "hate" comes from people who clearly didn't watch the movie.

Do you not believe review bombing is a thing?

[–] asom (6509) a year ago

I do know review bombing is a thing.

But thinking that a "generally good" movie (debatable if it's a good movie, decent or bad) deserves a 95% ratting it's quite silly.

[–] Narwhale37 (696) a year ago

You have to remember that Rotten Tomatoes only counts the percentages of positive reviews. Most people don't care that much about entertaining feels and will give it at least a 3.5/5. This is why Black Adam has such a high percentage despite not being remotely close to a masterpiece.

[–] imatosser182 (307) a year ago

Yeah, wonder how many of the 6000+ perfect 10 ratings are genuine.

They have no way of knowing, so they should leave it alone.

[–] Satan2016 (23334) a year ago

Do you know what verified means?

[–] asom (6509) a year ago

Yeah, it's means a checkbox in the database.

[–] jk90us (5248) a year ago

They’re all farces with Rotten Tomatoes being the worst of them.

I ignore collected ratings like that and just listen to a couple of reviewers who have the same taste I do.

But in the end I make my own judgement on whether I want to see the film or show based on trailers and news report from legitimate sources.

BTW as soon as studios start making pointless changes for adaptations or remakes for “today’s audiences” it goes on my Skip List.

I’m a big fan of diversity and strong female characters, but I’m not a fan of changing existing properties purely for social-political reasons. That Kool-Aid always has a bitter taste.

[–] aavfreak (2862) a year ago

I'm okay with a weighted rating as long as it is disclosed and the unweighted rating is shown along with it.

As much as I dislike the radical changing of an established character's appearance, the idea that it should be voted 1/10 for this sole reason (or whatever anti-woke justification exists), rather than the merits of the film itself seems extreme to me.

There may actually be some who consider it a 1/10, but I have to believe anyone who actually took the time to watch it would at least find some value. But with 40% of the vote having the worst possible score, I can't see those as valid ratings. Just "ballot stuffing" in some manner.

[–] Narwhale37 (696) a year ago

Nah they should just verify movie tickets. Rotten Tomatoes did this and "magically" the movie is 35% higher.

[–] aavfreak (2862) a year ago

Whatever the methodology, I have no problem with identifying and removing invalid ratings.

[–] StrongRex (1287) a year ago

“As much as I dislike the radical changing of an established character's appearance, the idea that it should be voted 1/10 for this sole reason (or whatever anti-woke justification exists), rather than the merits of the film itself seems extreme to me.”

That is exactly why it should get a 1/10 vote - for that sole reason. The fact that there’s other things wrong with this movie is icing on the cake. I don’t care if anyone thinks it’s extreme. Woke ideology is toxic and poisonous. The fact that it’s woke IS the merits of the film, that’s what makes it bad all around.

[–] Towelie_Towel (1700) a year ago

If you are upset about how woke it is, there are other ways to protest about it.

IMDB should be for the purpose of evaluating the merits of the movie.
Story, acting, music, direction, cinematography.

[–] StrongRex (1287) a year ago

To which I point you to my quote just right up above the reply button.

“The fact that it’s woke IS the merits of the film.”

I hope I don’t have to repeat myself again.

[–] Towelie_Towel (1700) a year ago

You can repeat how many times you want, but the wokeness is just one of the points of the movie.
It can lower the true score of a movie 2, 3 points, never down from a 7 to a 1.

[–] StrongRex (1287) a year ago

So when the writers sat down to write this movie and they injected their leftist, woke point of view into the entire story, that’s just “one of the points”? How does that work?

[–] Towelie_Towel (1700) a year ago

Because there are more components to the movie than some loose points.

You understand this, you are just trolling.

[–] StrongRex (1287) a year ago

I don’t care if you think I’m trolling or not. Any good points this movie might have just highlight how bad the rest of it is, the fact that it’s woke kills the entire thing. So it gets a hard 1/10 from me.

[–] VonFisch (344) 10 months ago

"Woke" is very irritating to me but I would think there should be good faith on all reviews that there was an actual viewing of the movie itself before leaving one.