She was naive, sheltered, a little tiny girl, cute as hell, sweet, a total happy head. Im pretty sure she would have happily done anything he told her to do. Im not saying it was ok to be bossing her around and forcing her to do things. Its just clear that she would have complied just fine without the abuse. It wasnt necessary. What was the point?
shareHe got off on it I believe, and I think he was jealous when she was called "another genius" by Jerry. He did it to keep her feeling low, molding her into something he wanted, a voiceless submissive scared girl. He didn't want an equal, he had major insecurities he projected on her, and took his frustrations out on her. I bet my life he never would have tried that with Suge big azz or anyone else in that movie, he was a piece if shytt.
shareYea. I see a little girl too. Not a grown woman. And the fact that he could so coldly bash her sweet little face in with his fist over and over is just evil...I guess he was doing it to break her. Ya know, break her spirit. He was prob jealous too.
shareMan dre thought he got off easy with straight outta Compton, I was under the impression He was a good big brother, son and person. Well as far as a person outside his family, he is just pathetically abusive and a coward, beating a woman who caused him no trouble, and most likely really loved him or thought that's what their relationship was about. He makes me sick now whenever I see him.
He makes me sick too. I don't think I've been this disturbed by a movie since I watched The Burning Bed. I'd already known about Dre's violent behavior towards women but it's just something about seeing it play out that makes it even more disturbing. I'm old enough to remember the rumors about him beating Michel'le and him savagely beat Dee Barnes (Pump It Up Host in the 90's) but none of that prepared me for watching this movie.
When he walked away from Death Row empty handed, that was just the icing on the cake to prove that he's a big punk ass bitch. How, as a man, do you go around beating up women for breathing wrong but then let another man punk you out of millions of dollars? How do you let another man just D'bo your ass out of a whole company? Dre built DR and when he left, DR was at the height of it's success but Suge told him that he could go but he wasn't taking a dime nor any of his artist with him and Dre just walked away with nothing. Talking about "Peace of mind is priceless". Bitch Please.
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Lmao. I just thought about that. Karma will always get you.
shareHe makes me sick too. I don't think I've been this disturbed by a movie since I watched The Burning Bed. I'd already known about Dre's violent behavior towards women but it's just something about seeing it play out that makes it even more disturbing. I'm old enough to remember the rumors about him beating Michel'le and him savagely beat Dee Barnes (Pump It Up Host in the 90's) but none of that prepared me for watching this movie.
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Jealous I agree and IMO he Had Issues and was battling his own demons. There was obvious something unstable about Dre back then, not judging just saying. No excuse for for what he did!
Not to make excuses for Dre, but he had to have been abused a lot as a child or he's seen a lot of women get smacked around and thought that was the norm. Him beating on Michel'le or any other woman didn't just come from out of nowhere. There has to be some back story to his madness.
Probably so Smoky. I watched one of Michel'les interviews and she was talking about how people always asked her why she put up with that and stayed and she was like "Ya know. People always ask me why didnt i do this or that but why dont people ever ask why Dre didnt stop? What was within Dre that he didnt just walk away instead?". Shes right. And I agree that he is just as damaged and sick to be able to do something like that on the regular.
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Bingo! He was damaged and sick himself...
Coward as well SMH .
All of that may be true Smokey but there comes a time when you stop looking back and move forward. He's obviously not a stupid guy and he should know right from wrong. He knows that he doesn't want to get beat and I'm sure he understands that a woman has the same feelings that he does and she's not a man's personal punching bag. I know he knows that he's not suppose to go around beating on people just for the hell of it because if he didn't know then, he sure knew better when Suge took his company. If he didn't know, he sure acted like he did.
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I'm sure he understands that a woman has the same feelings that he does and she's not a man's personal punching bag. I know he knows that he's not suppose to go around beating on people just for the hell of it because if he didn't know then, he sure knew better when Suge took his company. If he didn't know, he sure acted like he did.
Bullies don't need a reason other than they get gratification from hurting other people.
I don't trust people who don't like pets and I don't trust people who pets don't like.
Dre got her out of the projects. Made her money she hasn't seen since.
The only thing she could do is try to diss his reputation.
Oh Please, enough with all of this "she's trying to ruin his reputation" crap.
I don't care if he got her out of the garbage, it still doesn't give him the right to treat a human being the way he treated her and it's not just Michel'le making this claim. I remember back in the 90's it was an open secret that he was beating her. Even Eazy had a diss track mentioning how he likes to beat women so this is nothing that wasn't already out there anyway. We just didn't have all of the details.
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Oh please enough with all this "he treated her like garbage, because that is what she said, never mind there's no evidence to back it up".
shareYes, that's what she said and Dee Barnes stated that he brutally beat her in front of a lot of witness, who have come forward to back her up. She also sued Dre for assault and battery and settle for an undisclosed amount. The Dee Barnes incident was highly publicized in the hip hop community back in the early 90's, which also put focus on his abusive behavior towards Michel'le along with other women. Oh and don't forget his long time friend and ex group member Eazy, also backed the both of them up by publicly stating that Dre likes beating on women. I've never heard Dre even deny ever hitting either of those women. It's his fans that weren't there that's saying that he wasn't abusive. If one person tells a lie on you then you can deny it. If two people tell the same lie then you can argue but when three people tell the same lie on you then that's not a lie. You better believe that there is some truth to it, if not all. Now what type of evidence do you have to back you up? By your logic, I guess we are still suppose to believe that OJ is innocent. GTFOH
How many criminal trials? How many Restraining orders? I don't care about the Dee Barnes, because we are discussing Domestic Violence.
The point I am making is that's her story, doesn't make it 100% factual. Did I say Dre was innocent? Nope, but people like you only have one narrow way of thinking and anyone who doesn't agree with you are idiots.
Do I believe Dre probably got physical? Yep. Do I think she also got physical? Yep.
Not sure where you come from, but women aren't all little flowery girls who pick flowers and pet kittens. A lot of them will get in your face, push you, hit you or spit on you. Not because they think they can kick your a s s, but to antagonize you and demean you.
In the end, do women typically get the worse of it because the guy is stronger? Yup. Does that make him more wrong? Nope.
There is her story and his story and somewhere in the middle is the truth.
When it comes to DV, both parties are almost ALWAYS physical with each other.
This is an excerpt from a Rolling Stone interview that Dre did concerning the Barnes situation Barnes situation...
“People talk all this [s–t], but you know, somebody [f–ks] with me, I’m gonna [f–k] with them. I just did it, you know. Ain’t nothing you can do now by talking about it. Besides, it ain’t no big thing—I just threw her through a door,” Dr. Dre said.
Have you read this article posted last year by Dee Barnes: http://gawker.com/heres-whats-missing-from-straight-outta-compton-me-and-1724735910
And there's also excerpts from this new book called "Original Gangstas" which details the history of West Coast hip-hop and its confirmed that Dre abused other women in addition to Dee Barnes and Michel'le: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/new-n-w-biography-original-gangstas-stunning-read-article-1.2768428
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Dr. Dre, real name Andre Young, was a brilliant musician but a nasty, nasty man. At 17, he had his first child, Curtis, whom he didn't acknowledge for decades. Dre was busy seducing 14-year-old Lisa Johnson. Johnson gave birth in 1983, but by the time she was pregnant again, she discovered another women was also carrying Dre's child.
According to Johnson, Dre beat her five times over the course of the last two pregnancies.
Michel’le Toussaint has bravely gone public, often and loudly, with the story of her repeated abuse at the hands of Dre.
Toussaint, who had a son, Marcel, with Dre and later married Suge Knight, says Dre repeatedly beat her and once broke her nose so badly she had to have a nose job. One night he fired a shot that barely missed her.
Then came the public beatings of rapper Tairrie B and television host Dee Barnes.
Tairrie B had signed with Eazy E's label, Ruthless Records. She and Dre got into a vicious fight at a Grammys after-party in 1990. Dre punched her "hard, really" hard in the eye and followed up with a shot to the mouth that sent her sprawling to the ground.
Barnes might have gotten it even worse.
She tells a sanitized version of what actually happened the horrific night in 1991 when Dre savagely beat her at a record-release party in a West Hollywood nightclub.
Dre wasn't happy with a segment about NWA that Barnes hosted on her show "Pump It Up." Instead of a hello, Dre greeted Barnes with a punch to her face so hard that she went down like a sack of potatoes. He then grabbed her by the hair, repeatedly slamming her into a brick wall.
See my above response about Dee Barnes. I don't care about her or Tairrie B (whoever that is), we are discussing Domestic Violence.
Likewise, see Born Tommorow's responses because they basically go in line with what I'm saying. I also provided evidence of other domestic violence cases involving Dre in my links.
You don't care about Dee Barnes or Tairrie B (she was the first white female rap artist to join a major rap label, BTW)? That's too bad, because the way Dre acted around them is a telling sign of how he likely was with the women whom he had relationships with.
Not sure where you come from, but women aren't all little flowery girls who pick flowers and pet kittens. A lot of them will get in your face, push you, hit you or spit on you. Not because they think they can kick your a s s, but to antagonize you and demean you.
Does that make him more wrong? Nope.
Even if she got physical, that does not give Dre the right
If you can't accept that (the law does) fact, you are no better than the evil Dre you have been trying to depict.
LOL your door mat response is typical of a guy who can't get a woman, or one who only gets one, because you are easily treated like her b i t c h.
Now you're just making up stuff to prove a point. Nowhere in this movie did Miche'le or any other woman put their hand on him. As far as the "Stand you ground" law, Michel'le should have took that gun and blew his brains out or better yet, shot his d*ck off. Let him try to figure out how to walk with no penis.
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Doesn't matter. It was HER story. Jesus. Of course she is going to come out looking the victim.
shareYou're vouching for Dre and he's not even vouching for himself. Dre never said that he didn't beat her so what makes you so sure that he didn't?
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I'm not vouching for no one, Jesus Christ. Reading is fundamental.
shareJust like I thought...You don't know what you're talking about. If you're not vouching for Dre then what are you doing?
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Just like you thought about what? Are you one of those types "if you aren't with me, then you are against me"?
You have problems.
And you're an idiot. You're obviously the one with the problem and your "You're not with me, then you're against me" comment is laughable coming from someone who so desperately wants to change people's opinions to agree with yours that you changed the entire thread title to fit your perspective. Why not just make a new thread? Is it laziness or is it because the thread was already active and you want to jump on the bandwagon and flip the script but the funny part is that nobody's buying your bullsh!t.
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Why should I make a new thread? You are the who desperately needs people to side with them, and when they don't you resort to name calling.
It speaks volumes about you lack of integrity, than it does me.
It's like you're looking in the mirror as you post. Every thing you post is more about yourself than me. As far as name calling, you insulted me first so where's your integrity? Just because I didn't agree with you, you accuse me of "having problems" and saying that someone has problems is just another way of questioning someone's mental state. If someone accuses me of "having problems" and question my mental stability then I have every right to assume that they're some kind of an idiot.
I personally believe that you are a lonesome troll that needs attention. You joined this conversation strictly to disagree with the OP and other posters just to start an argument because you have nothing better to do.
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Interesting that you call me a lonesome troll, yet you keep replying as if you can't help it. Like maybe you are mentally ill?
So to end this:
We don't know the truth. He says, she says. She has a movie depicting it, he has a movie that never shows him being violent except to guys who get in his face.
While no one doubts guys like Dre would put their hands on a woman, at the same time, no one should doubt that women from the ghetto can also get physical, to include spit, throw things at you etc.
Saying a man should be ashamed for defending himself against a female, implies that you think a woman is more important than a man. If that is what you thin, then you are a Class A idiot and lose all credibility with anything you have to say.
When people don't agree with you, you don't automatically claim they must be supporting the other side. Some people, like me, are objective and look at both sides.
When it is he said, she said, I look to see what police reports were filed? What restraining orders were asked for? Did this ever go to court?
The answer to all of these is "no". Does that means she is not telling the truth? No.
You know what, I'm just going to go ahead and let you have this because I'm tired of this conversation. I'm not even about to read your last post because it's too long and I don't have that much time to spend on a troll. Until you can come up with something that proves that Michel'le is lying then I'm going to stick to what I believe and we can end this discussion.
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I already ended, but nice try to keep face. lmao
shareUntil you can come up with something that proves that Michel'le is lying then I'm going to stick to what I believe and we can end this discussion.It's still a one-sided story, her story. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I just did a Google search and didn't find any article regarding charges filed against Dre.
Can you come up with something that proves that Dre beat her?
First of all that innocent until proven guilty is b.s. OJ was found "innocent" but many people believe he's guilty as hell. That's why Hollywood blackballed his ass. Secondly, in a court of law, you have to plead guilty or innocent. Dre pleaded guilty when he started publicly apologizing and giving excuses for his behavior. Also if you read the Rolling Stone interview that I posted earlier, that was done during the time he was with Michel le' and in reference to him savagely beating Dee Barnes, you will clearly see that he wasn't the least bit remorseful for his actions and even seemed to be boasting so I can just imagine what he did to Michel'le, (his then girlfriend) in the privacy of his own home. Also, lets not forget that Diss track that Eazy did about Dre beating women, which Eazy called "bitches". If this was a court of law, with all of this evidence stacked against him, the man would be behind bars.
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