Truth had no part in the making of this trash. - Girl from Compton (2016) Discussion

[–] Born_Tomorrow 8 years ago

I have a genuine question for you...Were you there? How can you be so certain that "truth had no part in" her side of the story? Why should anyone even consider your assessment of their relationship? I bet you've never even met Michele' nor Dre' yet you seem to think that you know exactly what happened between the two of them, behind closed doors or in their relationship, period. You sound crazy as a Mutha fcker.

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[–] Poetist 8 years ago

If he was there, was he there when Dre beat up Dee?

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[–] freakbaby2 8 years ago

exactly born and poetist. what about the other several women who confirms him beating them senseless? Fabricated or not, just to be affiliated with beating women is not a good look. I highly doubt all those women are lying, dee even sued his ass. I can't feel bad for him. He smashed dee's face into a wall and beat her senseless.

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[–] Born_Tomorrow 8 years ago

exactly born and poetist. what about the other several women who confirms him beating them senseless? Fabricated or not, just to be affiliated with beating women is not a good look. I highly doubt all those women are lying, dee even sued his ass. I can't feel bad for him. He smashed dee's face into a wall and beat her senseless.

Eazy even did a diss track about Dre and mentions him beating women.

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[–] oie_crew 8 years ago

"Every one of the people portrayed in this movie, along with those who were around at this time say this is BS and historically inaccurate." I base it off of that. The argument "Were you there" is played out. More people corroborate his story than hers. I never said he didn't beat her; I'm saying that her portrayal of Dre is BS. Like he's a demon and what not. This whole movie was her defining herself as a victim. We walked away with being told that she jut got beat up and verbally abused all day. What is that? And you don't always have to be there to know fabrication when you see it.

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[–] Born_Tomorrow 8 years ago

"Every one of the people portrayed in this movie, along with those who were around at this time say this is BS and historically inaccurate." I base it off of that. The argument "Were you there" is played out. More people corroborate his story than hers. I never said he didn't beat her; I'm saying that her portrayal of Dre is BS. Like he's a demon and what not. This whole movie was her defining herself as a victim. We walked away with being told that she jut got beat up and verbally abused all day. What is that? And you don't always have to be there to know fabrication when you see it.

Just like I thought...you don't know anymore about their relationship than the rest of us.

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[–] oie_crew 8 years ago

And you don't know what happened in the car between Chris Brown and Rihanna. And??

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[–] Born_Tomorrow 8 years ago

And you don't know what happened in the car between Chris Brown and Rihanna. And??

Sure don't and for all I know she could have done all that sh!t to herself,  including the black eyes and the biting.

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[–] Am_I_the_one 8 years ago

@oie_crew there was some truth in this movie! Dre loved to beat up on women! I am around there age and I remember all the news articles about Michel'le & Dre. Straight Outta Compton made him look like a choir boy! So far from the real reality! Dre was a drunk, selfish and abusive man! He was dead wrong to leave Michel'le out of the movie.

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[–] kokane7 8 years ago

"He was dead wrong to leave Michel'le out of the movie."

Why did she needed to be in that movie that bad? Just to watch herself get her ass whooped by Dre and go "Mmhmm, I told y'all"? What did she add to the st---no scratch that... How was she going to fit in that movie 2 1/2 hour movie ABOUT NWA? That movie the rise and fall of NWA, not the Dre story. It would've lost focus on the moral point of that movie:NWA. Everybody and their mama wasn't in the movie and now they was having a pissy fit for not getting a shoutout or something. NWA stories can expand to 5 movies. This one was theirs. Y'all got a problem go make ya own NWA and add Dre beating asses or Michel'e can do her ow--- Oh wait, she did, came out two nights ago. HA HA

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[–] ravi02 8 years ago

I guess you missed that she appeared on The D.O.C.'s album and her solo album was a big hit for Ruthless Records (both Dre and Eazy produced it). Michel'le showed that Ruthless was more than just a gangsta rap label and R&B music could be marketed as well.

And if you're going to talk about focusing on N.W.A, then Straight Outta Compton featured some scenes that weren't necessary to the story. The scene with Tupac wasn't important (especially considering he joined Death Row in late 1995, not 1993-4 as the film showed), nor was the bit where Cube trashes the priority office, the bit where N.W.A's sleeping with groupies in hotel with the 'Bye Felicia" gag or the entire sequence of them driving through the L.A. riots.

Point is that she was an important supporting figure during the Ruthless/Death Row eras and they could have at least shown her a little in Straight Outta Compton.

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[–] kokane7 8 years ago

"Michel'le showed that Ruthless was more than just a gangsta rap label and R&B music could be marketed as well."

Ok, if I remember correctly, JJ Fad was the first girl group to be out first just to show Ruthless wasn't just a gangsta rap label and when Supersonic became a hit, that was when they went on. They said it themselves when them and Arabian Prince was being interviewed at one point before the film.

"And if you're going to talk about focusing on N.W.A, then Straight Outta Compton featured some scenes that weren't necessary to the story. The scene with Tupac wasn't important (especially considering he joined Death Row in late 1995, not 1993-4 as the film showed),"

Ok, I agree with that. They didn't need him in the film. I'll give you that. If they wasn't going to put A.P in the film, why PAC for 30 seconds? Still entertaining.

"nor was the bit where Cube trashes the priority office,"

Well, it was technically still NWA story even when Cube left but it's still his story and he still played a focal point on NWA breakup. This was the 2nd half of the movie (the Fall of NWA) Cube, Dre, Eazy with Ren and Yella story still need to be told and a lot of things important need to be shown in their lives. If this movie was over 3 hrs okay but for a 2 1/2 hour film, doubt it. She was of Dre's story which would've needed a lot of screentime for his and I know y'all would've been bitching.

"the bit where N.W.A's sleeping with groupies in hotel with the 'Bye Felicia" gag or the entire sequence of them driving through the L.A. riots."

Still NWA. The first half (the RISE of NWA). It showed BTS of what was it like being with girls and it gave a POS of how they treated women especially based off the lyrics. And probably one of the highlights of the film. I thought the sequence of them driving through LA Riots was great. It gave us an idea on how it effected them and their reactions. It was only Dre and Cube driving around so it wouldn't made no difference of them watching it on their couch.

"Point is that she was an important supporting figure during the Ruthless/Death Row eras and they could have at least shown her a little in Straight Outta Compton."

They didn't show A.P., they didn't show JJ Fad, Lady of Rage, Yo-Yo, BTOH, etc. She wasn't they only one and some was more important than/as she was so why does she get the special treatment? She played a special role just like the others in the Ruthless/Death Row. I rather had A.P. over her. He DEFINITELY should've been on there, but I already know why.

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[–] brian-pierce32 8 years ago

Yeah doc wasn't even rapping in the movie

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[–] brian-pierce32 8 years ago

She made 1 album how important was she?

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[–] Born_Tomorrow 8 years ago

How was she going to fit in that movie 2 1/2 hour movie ABOUT NWA? That movie the rise and fall of NWA, not the Dre story.

But the Dee Barnes incident was apart of the NWA story and Michele was just as much a part of the NWA story as that scene with them all having an orgy in that hotel room or Dre meeting his wife and asking her to move in. They just conveniently left them out. In fact, they left out all the women that Dre viciously assaulted, as well as his drinking problem and 5 babies.

It would've lost focus on the moral point.

No, it would have lost focus on trying to make Dre look like some sort of choir boy with his head on straight, that everybody roots for.

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[–] kokane7 8 years ago

"But the Dee Barnes incident was apart of the NWA story and Michele was just as much a part of the NWA story as that scene with them all having an orgy in that hotel room or Dre meeting his wife and asking her to move in."

Again, JJ Fad and Arabian Prince was also more important or just as important but was they in there? Not at all. I guess y'all don't care cuz they wasn't getting they ass whooped. So why did SHE out of all needed to be in there? In fact, even if she was still in there more of a background she and everybody else still would've been mad and still do this film. Hell, Dee Barnes didn't wanna be portrayed in there, she just wished it was acknowledged more (although it was referenced twice).

"They just conveniently left them out. In fact, they left out all the women that Dre viciously assaulted, as well as his drinking problem and 5 babies."

He allegedly assaulted what 3? Dre, Michel'e, and Tairrie B? No comment on the drinking thing cuz who cares and they showed 1 of his "baby mama" but again why does that matter. All that was Dre's personal life that's not who we mainly wanted to see about NWA. N. W. A. The Brotherhood. Hell, they filmed over 3 1/2 hours of footage, better hope on the 5-10th anniversary they put it out. It's really not that deep tbh. Why do y'all wanna see him beat someone anyway? That's just as bad as watching someone beat an damn puppy. He didn't show it. Omitted. Move on.

"No, it would have lost focus on trying to make Dre look like some sort of choir boy with his head on straight, that everybody roots for."

Yes, it would. You showing more Dre's story than the others cuz his story had more juice. They did show Dre/Eazy beef or the accusations of the rape case against Ren. Or Dre getting shot in the leg at a hotel, or more into they second album and the controversy of explicit lyrics, or more inside story of Ruthless before East died,blah blah blah. Y'all say this made Dre look good and Eazy bad but tell me who did everybody responded positively, respected, rooted for, and cried more too? Ding Ding Ding, Eazy. That's important. I didn't think he was a "choir boy" cuz they didn't show him going to church. Just didn't show him being "the devil". It's just a movie not a documentary. Again, a lot of people who had a special role during NWA/Ruthless/Death Row wasn't in the movie who more important.

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[–] Born_Tomorrow 8 years ago

So why did SHE out of all needed to be in there? In fact, even if she was still in there more of a background she and everybody else still would've been mad and still do this film.

Oh come on. She was his girlfriend, for goodness sakes and a much bigger part of the group than JJ Fad or Arabian Prince (Although I do feel as though he should have at least been mentioned).

Hell, Dee Barnes didn't wanna be portrayed in there, she just wished it was acknowledged more (although it was referenced twice).

Referenced to? He never mentioned beating on a woman. He mentioned an assault charge. For all we know he could have been talking about another man.

They did show Dre/Eazy beef or the accusations of the rape case against Ren. Or Dre getting shot in the leg at a hotel, or more into they second album and the controversy of explicit lyrics, or more inside story of Ruthless before East died,blah blah blah.

What movie were you watching because I didn't see any of this in SOC

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[–] kokane7 8 years ago

"Oh come on. She was his girlfriend, for goodness sakes and a much bigger part of the group than JJ Fad or Arabian Prince (Although I do feel as though he should have at least been mentioned)."

So? She was still an artist that mostly known for her high mousy voice with a hit. Like I said. JJ Fad and A.P. was MORE important especially A.P. since he was actually part of the group.

"Referenced to? He never mentioned beating on a woman. He mentioned an assault charge. For all we know he could have been talking about another man."

Come on. What big headline did he have that was him hitting a man that I know of? You know it a 'woman'. And yes, I thought they could've dwelled in that more but whatever. It happened. In there. We just didn't see that.

"What movie were you watching because I didn't see any of this in SOC"

I meant "they didn't". Should've proofread it. Lol. You knew what I meant.

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[–] ravi02 8 years ago

Michel'le had more than a hit. She had: sang on World Class Wreckin Cru's "Turn Off the Lights"; a hit solo album on Ruthless with hit singles; sang the hook on The West Coast All Stars 1990 charity single "We're All in the Same Gang" and sang hooks on two Tupac songs and "Let's Play House" by the Dogg Pound. Her second solo album for Death Row flopped.

Also, a lot of people seem to forget Michel'le was Dre's girl during the majority of the period that the Straight Outta Compton movie takes place. In the film they show it as Dre being single and meeting his future wife, Nicole when in reality he met Nicole after Eazy-E passed away. So Michel'le does have a reason to be annoyed by her exclusion from the film.

What big headline did he have that was him hitting a man that I know of? You know it a 'woman'.

I recall hearing about Dre breaking another producer's jaw and both him and D.O.C got into a brawl in a hotel lobby shortly after N.W.A's breakup.

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[–] AdrianLePier 8 years ago

Of course some of it was fabricated for melodrama, but I get the feeling that the bottom line was executed. Dr. Dre took advantage of an emotionally weak Michel'le, saw her as his possession that he could treat her any kind of way because he could, and never took her seriously. Then Suge came in and basically "snatched" her away from Dre (who probably didn't care as much as the movie suggested), just to prove that he could. Then later, after everyone else was basically gone, used her to do his dirty work while he was locked up. Now everything else was probably exaggerated, but had enough truth to it to give you the gist of what things were like.

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[–] leighabc123 8 years ago

Be quiet, Dr. Dre! Stop pretending to be a person named. "oie_crew!"

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[–] Born_Tomorrow 8 years ago

Be quiet, Dr. Dre! Stop pretending to be a person named. "oie_crew!"

I thought it was Lil Mo.

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[–] oie_crew 8 years ago

Alonzo Williams:

In the movie, it looked like Dre gave Ike Turner lessons on whupping women,” he said. “I’ve never seen that part of Dre. The Dre that hung around me was a crazy, fun-loving [and] always playing a practical joke.

Daz Dillinger:

Did you see where Suge Knight was talking to Tupac like that in her movie?” I don’t recall no *beep* like that. Tupac wasn’t going for no *beep* like that. I wouldn’t go for no *beep* like that, or we’d have a lot of fights. I ain’t heard of no *beep* like that. Bitch lie.

Danny Boy:

I don't know if God is a man or a woman, but I know that bitch is the devil. She destroyed lives. It was all about her. She was a drunk. https://youtu.be/Zt_-WakNgpU

Her credibility is zero, and her personal character is *beep* She made an altogether bias, inaccurate portrayal of herself along with others in it all because she wasn't included in Straight Outta Compton. A lot of other incidents and people were too. Yes, Dre did beat her, and he slapped Dee Barnes. Dr. Dre has already admitted to all this, and this happened before any of these movies were being made. Michel'le is bitter that she wasn't in Straight Outta Compton and she turned around and made a film that ultimately portrays and defines herself as a victim who is beaten on all her life.

Eminem song: Guilty Conscience -excerpt:

Eminem: You gonna take advice from somebody who slapped Dee Barnes?
Dr. Dre: (What you say?)
Eminem: What's wrong? Didn't think I'd remember?
Dr. Dre: (I'ma kill you, *beep*
Eminem: Uhh-ahh, temper, temper. Mr. Dre, Mr. N.W.A, Mr. AK coming straight outta Compton, y'all better make way how in the *beep* you gonna tell this man not to be violent?
Dr. Dre: ‘Cause he don't need to go the same route that I went. Been there, done that

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[–] ravi02 8 years ago

I always knew Daz Dillinger wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, and this imbecilic commentary shows that fool's dumber than a dodo bird. Those Tupac scenes amount to like, what two minutes? Also did he miss the point of the film? That abusing women and using them as sex objects isn't right? That fact that he calls her a bitch is a sign that he's part of the problem and needs to grow up.

Michel'le is bitter that she wasn't in Straight Outta Compton and she turned around and made a film that ultimately portrays and defines herself as a victim who is beaten on all her life.

I don't know but wouldn't you be a little annoyed if your ex made a film about his/her life during that period and you were their significant other during that time and released a big time selling album, yet you're not even shown in person?

I feel like you didn't even watch the film. Unlike Dre and Cube in SoC, Michel'le portrayed herself as a flawed individual: she naively lets Dre abuse her and keeps going back to him; she brings her son to parties where people engage in debauchery; she does a lot of drugs; takes poor advice from her grandmother and mom; finally, her entire relationship with Suge is a disaster.

She intended for the film to raise awareness of domestic abuse and mistreatment of women in not only the rap world, but society in general. The fact that you, Daz and other commentators are treating the film like a joke and using it as an excuse to make sexist comments at Michel'le is a telling sign that we have a long ways to go.

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[–] goodpatron123 8 years ago

Couldn't take you seriously after you downplayed "a few black eyes", like that sh!t is normal. SMFH HARD.

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[–] southpaw2k1 7 years ago

Thank you! Michel'le saying she was part of NWA is like Yoko Ono saying she's the 6th Beatle. She played them for their cash. Then the ending captions says "Dedicated to the memory of Jerry Heller." GTFOHWTBS. Giving thanks to the guy who ripped off NWA in the first place, should be a dead giveaway of how much BS that film is.

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[–] ravi02 7 years ago

Michel'le saying she was part of NWA is like Yoko Ono saying she's the 6th Beatle.

That's a poor comparison. I don't think Michel'le ever proclaimed herself to be part of NWA and unlike Ono, Michel'le was an accomplished singer/lyricist who sang on World Class Wreckin' Cru's "Turn Off the Lights" and had her own multi-platinum selling debut album which was one of Ruthless Record's big hits.

She played a big role in the formation of Dr. Dre's career and was there during the Ruthless/Death Row years, so she has enough interesting stories to share.

Then the ending captions says "Dedicated to the memory of Jerry Heller." GTFOHWTBS. Giving thanks to the guy who ripped off NWA in the first place

Michel'le obviously had a different relationship with Heller than he did with the members of NWA.

While Cube and Dre have gone on record numerous times stating that Heller cheated them, there has never been any solid evidence brought forth that he actually did.

This will be a controversial opinion, but I feel like there's more to NWA's breakup than simply blaming Heller. By 1989-1990, Dre and Cube had both established themselves enough and they wanted to be more in the spotlight, so going solo was the best choice. Also, Suge Knight wanted Dre, D.O.C and Michel'le for himself and he used them to help start Death Row.

Surviving Compton may have taken some liberties, but overall I felt like the intentions behind the film felt true. It was to raise awareness of domestic abuse and misogyny within rap which is a serious problem.

And if you're going to accuse Surviving Compton of BS, then you can't overlook the many fabrications that Straight Outta Compton had.

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