Finale: spoilers


So does June go back to the house or does she go underground and next season goes in a more action/freedom fighter direction? Burning Down The House over the end credits had me thinking that it could go either way.

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I suspect she's going to be part of the underground.

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I don't know how she can come back at this point, considering that even Nick threatened Waterford.

When I saw that ending, I thought there isn't really much (or anything) she can do for Hannah while still in Gilead, but perhaps the people are finally uniting against the tyranny.

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She could go back and stay at the new guy's house, the one who got Emily out. If anyone were in a position to take down the system from the inside, it would be him.

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yeah, but that guys got a lot of explaining to do......

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i assume that he is going to have a larger role next year, seems like Bradley whitford wouldn't be used for just a few episodes.

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I do wonder how it transpired that he was personally responsible for the decision to send the "unwomen" to the colonies.

It does seem really strange to me, btw, that he is like the only normal modern man there - there's got to be a lot more than that, but we really don't see that on the show. Instead we see coffee shop baristas who call women wearing athletic clothing - f-ing sluts.

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the man who helped June escape the first time. He paid for that with his life! And was secretly committed to his own faith.
Nick, a normal guy trying to live in this F"ed up situation.
The guard who ran off with Eden.
Luke.

The scene with the barista was great. At that time (?) and place (Boston), this was a foreshadowing of things to come.
This is how it starts....with rumblings of things like racism and misogyny. It's important to show that.

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Luke is outside of Gilead, I am talking about the men in Gilead.

The Guardian who ran off with Eden did knock out Janeane with the butt of his rifle in an earlier episode - so no, not a normal modern man.

Also, I'll grant you that the Muslim man who helped June was very compassionate, but he and his wife were extremely conservative, and in my post above I was implying western liberal sensibilities.

And besides, whatever examples you can think are all very few and far between. Basically, everyone in Gilead seem like they are from another time. The women, too.


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it's normal for police to use violence against minorities, for the smallest of infractions, echoing the dynamics between the Guardian and Janeane.
The Muslim family was neither liberal nor conservative, they were terrified.
western liberal sensibilities, curious.

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Minorities? Women are a minority?

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handmaids are.
But the point is, the guardian was a young man doing his JOB, and subjugation through violence is the protocol. Falling in love with Eden was unexpected, and led to him falling in touch with his own HUMANITY. That's life. That's normal. We have awakenings, and we change.
In Art there exists things like metaphor and symbolism. Look for those things, I think it would help deepen your enjoyment of the show.

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My my, aren't we feeling superior.

Except that your comment does not in any way support your position that somehow Isaac is a "normal modern man". At best he was a heavily indoctrinated automaton.

And what "deepens my enjoyment" of any show is good, tight writing. I don't go out of my way to try to excuse things.

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I think it's kinda typical - that the masterminds behind all live more normal - the powerful have more freedoms.

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I don't know how she could go back to the house now. In the book the "handmaid's tale" is tapes that she recorded somewhere. I suppose the narration is meant to be those same recordings. So maybe she does go into hiding and we see how she tells her story, and more hopefully. We so need to get out of the Waterford house!

As for the freedom fighter direction, I'm not sure it's in her character to be a proper outlaw revolutionary, though she is subversive. I don't mind being proven wrong, we'll just have to wait and see I suppose.

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