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Marvel fans, how close is this show VS Comic?


I'm curious as to how close this is to the comics, I used to read a ton of comics, in fact I had 10 of them long white boxes full (comic fans will know what I mean) but never got into Cloak & Dagger, I had about 25 or so issues, but only read a few and don't remember anything... (Was more about collecting them)

1. Was Ty's childhood friend killed by white cops?

2. Is this show going all SJW, or is the stuff accurate to the comics?

3. Was dagger saved in comics by Cloak when they were kids? As shown in TVshow?

4. Was Dagger a thief?

5. Was the way they discovered their powers as depicted in the show accurate?

What else is or is not accurate? Just curious?

Don't get me wrong, not trying to stat any shit, I am just curious if the show is accurate or SJW pandering.. as I have no patience for that crap.

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Haven't seen the series, but read the comics years ago. The comic was about the dark side (cloak) vs the light side (dagger) as complementary.

The original comic was political, but not in a SJW way. Think 80s, more about social class (Dagger was a rich kid, Cloak a thief), more about inner demons, not about evil-whites vs oppressed-blacks. I don't remember Ty's friend killed by white cops or Dagger saved by Cloak when kids. Cloak was, indeed, quite a resentful and complex character, far from being some poor oppressed innocent victim. Think The Warriors with superhero/supernatural elements to get the mood of the comic https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080120/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt.

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Wow, talk about a blast from the past.. The Freakin Warriors LOL damn.. yeah I'm old enough to remember watching that film as a kid and wow it did make a cool impression on me at the time!! Remember the Lizzys? (The girl gang) And corny as hell now but at the time how cool was that silly baseball gang lol..

can you dig it..... CAN YOU DIIIIIIIGGGGGGG IT!!!! LOL

Thanks for the reply bud.

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Pretty much the below does match with what I remember. Whether the show or later comic book versions held to this I wouldn't know.

Tyrone "Ty" Johnson (Cloak) and Tandy Bowen (Dagger) met in New York City as runaways. Tyrone was a 17-year-old boy from Boston, Massachusetts with a debilitating stutter and ran away to New York City when his speech impediment prevented him from stopping his friend from being shot by the police, who mistakenly believed he had just robbed a store.

Tandy was a 16-year-old girl from a privileged upbringing (born in Shaker Heights, Ohio) who ran away because her multi-millionaire supermodel mother was too busy with her career and social life to spend time with her daughter.

When they met, Tyrone considered stealing Tandy's purse, but before he could, a thief stole the purse and Tyrone retrieved it for her. Afterwards, they had dinner and became fast friends. When naïve Tandy accepted an offer of shelter from some strange men, wary Tyrone went along to protect her. The two teens were soon forcibly delivered to criminal chemist Simon Marshall developing a new synthetic heroin for Silvermane and the Maggia, testing it on runaway teens with fatal results. Johnson and Bowen somehow survived injections of the drug, and they fled. During their escape, the drug turned them into superpowered beings.

Tyrone found himself engulfed in darkness and seized by a strange hunger that eased in the presence of Tandy glowing with a brilliant light. Trying to hide his newly shadowy appearance in a makeshift cloak, Tyrone began absorbing Marshall's thugs into his darkness while Tandy struck them down with daggers of light. The two teens dubbed themselves "Cloak & Dagger" and declared war on drug crime in combating drug-dealers and helping runaway children.


Thanks to Wikipedia for the text.

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Thanks for the detailed info TapDancingTeddy yeah they took a ton of agenda driven choices.. figures.. dang.

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The description is of the characters' orgin story from Marvel Comics published in the 1980's. The two characters were created in 1982 by Bill Mantlo. So I guess, "they" is Bill Mantlo, and the "agenda" is the ideas he had.

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I think he's talking about 'they=showrunner & screenwriters', and the choices in the TV Show in order to adapt (and/or change) the comic.

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Thanks to Wikipedia for the plagiarism.

You have no shame. Not to mention education.

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People under 30 likely never read the comic. They rate it much higher than people over 30. Females rate it higher.

Imdb rating 6.7: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5614844/ratings

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Dude. Wikipedia.

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Aside from Indiana Jones comics, Cloak & Dagger is the only Marvel comic I ever read. So much is different from the comic. Not sure if I'll stick with the show. I didn't like Dagger much in the comics, and I don't like her much on the show either. Cloak was the really interesting character of the two in the comic, and so far I like him on the show okay. I just have to look past the hairstyle and how much younger he looks than Tyrone in the comic (he looks older once he becomes Cloak, but the way this show is changing things, it doesn't look like he'll have any type of transformation into becoming Cloak). Over the last couple of episodes I've been trying to figure out if the police lady, who I thought was a mute for 1 1/2 episodes, is going to turn out to be Mayhem from the comics. I really liked Mayhem, even though they didn't do much with her in the comics as they should have. Cloak is really what the comic was about and who the show should really be about. I just think they're going to modernize this show too much. When I saw the trailer for the show the first time, I thought it was going to be set in the early 90's, because of Tyrone's hairstyle and because it'd seemed like Tandy was a "club kid". Anyway, I'll stick with the show for a while and see how it turns out. So far, it's moving very slow.

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I was watching the show with my daughter who really wanted to see it. Spent half the time stopping the DVR so I could answer her questions about what happened in the comics. I have to admit though the show is not as bad as I expected it would be. I really expected FreeForm would turn it into a joke. By choice, I might give it a few episodes. However after the attempted rape scene, my wife has made it clear my daughter will not be watching any more episodes unless I clear them first, so I might get stuck watching the whole series anyway.

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Heck no. the tv show is completely different than the original 1980s comic book that I grew up with back then.

the frikkin Cloak and Dagger show has the usual black folk drama the same crap you see in the Black Lightning show.

I suggest you stick with reading the original comic book series.

Plus the original Cloak and Dagger characters made guest star appearances most of the time anyway in original Uncanny X-Men and Power Pack back in my day

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