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What's with the interracial sex storyline??


As if ANY woman would rather be with ANYONE as opposed to a young relatively good looking BILLIONAIRE!! Makes NO sense that she chose to be with a regular black(or white) guy rather than the BILLIONAIRE Bell!

If this show isn't already dead it is now! You rarely see black men/white women couples on TV or in movies because audiences don't like them. Black audiences dislike them too because black women don't like seeing black men taken by white women.

Recently Will Smith was in a movie & was part of an interracial couple and it BOMBED! And it's NOT racist! One of the reasons Trump won is because people are SICK of PC! Just like you have preferences for food, cars, drinks, etc. you can have preferences for what you see in TV and movies.

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At the great risk of being attacked, this I agree with. NO good looking woman would turn down a great looking great guy with billions for some idiot looking doctor who looks more like he wants to be a rapper rather than a doctor. Does he do anything there anyway?

I won't even get into how just about every show on TV they can't find black actress' for the black actor.


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Thanks for your honesty DaytonaBob. I never saw that black guy do anything either except take them to the ghetto and ask for a playground to be built! If the black guy was the billionaire I could understand. But as long as the billionaire wasn't hideous ANY woman would be all over him so to do this storyline is RIDICULOUS!!

It's the easiest way to KILL a show by doing something controversial. It must be a crazy liberal director trying to push his views on others.

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I'm not liberal. I'm not anything really, yet I'm a little bit of everything too. Im never the person who jumps out and says, "you're wrong!!" and I'm not the guy who is out there pushing my beliefs on others because I think it's got to be "my way or no way". I usually watch a show that's pushing an issue like how gay people have it so hard because of bigots, and use that show to make us feel bad for the character and try to in turn, make us feel bad for the gay community. And afterwards my thoughts are things aren't as bad as they make it out on this show. In the 60's and earlier, if you were gay, you told no one. You faked being heterosexual because being homosexual wasn't tolerated. Period! In the 70's there was the hippie generation who believed in free love and if you were gay, you went to the small places that it was acceptable, but you still hid it from family, friends, and you basically hid yourself from the intolerant. 80's is when "coming out" started and it was basically a war! 90's wasn't much better. There was so much hate and violence, with kids getting the courage to come out to their families and was being disowned, and the suicide rate of homosexuals skyrocketed because it was just unacceptable! So they fought, and they gave homosexuals of all ages, races, and religions a "safe haven" of sorts to let them know they were going to be ok, and that being gay is ok, and it gets easier. They fought for rights, they fought for freedom, and they fought for acceptance. The reason I use this example is because it's basically a modern version of what every fight has been about for hundreds of years! The fight for equality, and freedom from persecution. And now being gay is normal. Like it or not, it's normal. It's so normal that now that gays are trend setters. You want your house decorated in an immaculate way? The person you hire to do this is probably gay. Want you hair cut stylish and modern? Well, your stylist is probably gay. Want to dress in the latest fashion? Well you're wear a designer that's flaming like the 4th of July! So why is a tv show still trying to show me it's so hard to be gay? Why is Jesse Jackson still trying to get black people reparations? Most black families can't for certain trace their lineage back to slavery because it's been so long ago. The Civil Rights Movement is a fascinating piece of history with stories so disturbing they turn your stomach! And in it we're so many African American heroes who gave their lives and took beatings to stand up for what's right that they changed America! The fought so hard to be treated fairly and they won! So why is a tv show showing me a black character having struggles today? I ask myself this after watching these shows and I just happened to stumble on this blog because of a question I had about this episode of pure genius and I just read your comments on the whole interracial issue. Why would the white woman choose a black doctor over a billionaire tech genius? Well, as the characters are portrayed, you can break it down like this:
a. She's a surgeon working at a hybrid tech hospital who is probably making more money than she can ever spend.

b. The black doctor is also making more money than he knows what to do with.
(So that makes the fact he's a billionaire moot because they don't have to worry about money)

c. He's a tech guy with no medical background.
(So she has more in common with the black doctor than the computer genius)

d. He's a computer genius! His social interaction skills are, for a better word, "lacking". Much higher IQ than EQ. He didn't know how to talk to her or anyone else for that matter, and he argued and fought with her in the beginning episodes, because that's the only way he knew to interact with her. It took Wallace giving him advice to give him the skills to finally ask her out properly, by this time she had already begun an emotional relationship with the black doctor.

So now we see that she realizes the genius likes her and she doesn't want to hurt him so she's trying not to do anything that could be considered romantic with the doctor in front of the genius in consideration for his feelings. This is the writers way of making us wonder if this is going to cause a rift somewhere either between the female character and her romantic relationship with the black doctor, or her working relationship with the genius, or between the genius and the black doctor.

It's not a controversial piece the writers are trying to push on anyone. Just stop seeing color and follow the storyline!
If the show bombs, it bombs! Shows get cancelled every year just because of ratings and there were no interracial couples to blame, or gay actors, or bible thumping christians! And some shows last for years and years and at some point, had all 3! Ever seen modern family?

And like I said, I am not that guy who pushes my beliefs on others and you do make strong valid points. I just think in this case, it's not going to be an interracial couple that's going to be the catalyst that causes this shows demise because in the age we live in, it's gotten to the point of being a common thing to where most of the viewers (I know there are a small percent that will) don't care about that aspect that much. What will kill ratings is if it becomes monotonous. If there is no rift in the triangle and relationships are all happy sappy. Or if every episode has a happy ending for all patients. Or if every episode is only about new cases with new patients with some new life threatening condition that has to be solved by the end of the hour and they don't have one or two long term major issues that is happening to a main character (i.e. Bell's looming disease that may soon start to affect him, or Wallace's family situation where their opposing careers or his long distance will cause a major problem for his marriage or relationship with his son causing him to choose to leave or divorce, or something bad happens to his family where he has to save them). In this way the writers and creators are smart by giving you an exciting episode each week with the "crisis of the week" where it's something keeping you on the edge of your seat each episode and when it's over we are all relieved and happy or upset and crying, but come end of the season we're left with a cliffhanger from one of the show's long term issues of is the cure for Bell's disease going to be pushed through in time to save him or is Wallace going to leave or stay? And then they're going to kill off a character or someone will do something illegal and get fired, and we're left each week satisfied by the shows traumatic experience, but still wondering "what's going to happen to him/her?".

So sorry for the super long post that changed the topic, but all of you make so many great points and I really enjoyed reading all of your comments. This is the first time I've ever posted to a thread like this and I know I threw out a lot of random stuff but it's all just my opinion and not trying to attack anyone but I know I just opened myself up for a lot of hateful remarks. But that's your right to do so, so if I pissed you off then by all means tell me how ignorant I am. If you read all of this, love it or hate it, agree or disagree, I thank you for taking the time to read it. Goodnight all and have a wonderful holiday season, to you and your families!

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I'm just saying the liberal writers have gone out of their way to do this just to be controversial. I've seen many medical shows over the years but never this. They're just doing it to be provocative.

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Maybe he's one of those white guys who thinks that doesn't count because it's a white man & a black woman. I've heard that before, that whole they'll ruin our women with their monster penises thing. Apparently, the opposite is not true (actually, neither's the first one, but ignorance is hard to combat).

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Jreg, the Jeffersons is one of my favorite shows and YES it makes a difference. Enough with you 2 liberal COMMUNISTS Smith & Shaun who don't believe in free speech but ONLY speech you AGREE with!

Even a Hollywood producer talked about this on the E! network some time ago. He said he wanted to put a black man/white woman couple in an upcoming MAJOR film but got a lot of pushback from the studio and even some actors themselves! He pointed out there has NEVER been a hit movie or TV show with a black man/white woman major storyline. He said he tried but it's still considered too unappealing to whites AND blacks!

So Smith & Shaun, I guess the E! network is owned by the KKK right? You delusional liberal MORONS live in a BUBBLE and don't even know what Americans are truly like! Even some Dem pundits admit that one of the reasons Trump won is because liberals are OUT OF TOUCH with everyday Americans! That PERFECTLY describes you guys!



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House MD also had an interracial relationship with Foreman and 13.

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Kuntext, STILL living in your bubble aren't you? There has NEVER been a successful show or movie with an interracial couple in a major role. You didn't even address what the producer on E! said because you know you're WRONG! There is a REASON he said audiences reject interracial pairings like this but since your live in your liberal bubble you won't even acknowledge it!

And the Jeffersons was a hit because of George Jefferson who is one of the most iconic comedy characters in TV history. Norman Lear said he needed to introduce white characters into the show because he wanted to appeal to white audiences to expand their target demographic. Norman Lear HIMSELF said that he didn't have Lionel date any white women or have the Willises be a black man/white woman couple because it wouldn't go over well with both white AND black audiences! NORMAN LEAR said that you naive FOOL!

You may say the times of changed but not so much because polls show racial relations are at the LOWEST they've been in MANY decades!! So there's a REASON interracial pairings like this are usually avoided but I see you live in a state of DENIAL!!

OWNED like always!!

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megafauna005 -

Kuntext, STILL living in your bubble aren't you?


Gotta tell ya, although the phrase appears to have gotten a bad name as of late, I've been using it for... half a century? and to me, it's a gleeful reference. It's about grace, really. I feel like I walk this Earth a very loved person. I have 4 childhood friends whom are better understood as family and their love, IS my bubble of love and it protects me from a lot.

"Bubble" also reminds me of one of my life's happiest memories. One day in Grand Cayman, I was playing underwater... like a dolphin, you know? Underneath me were about 40 scuba divers - bubbles everywhere. :) The water was dark, crystal blue - completely clear. As I looked up from beneath the surface to the sun, while I could feel the bubbles as they touched my skin I could also see bubbles which were like prisms. Magical, just... magical. :) It was like being inside of a water rainbow...

In every home I've been in, including a tent for a year, I always had a bottle of bubbles and wands so I have many happy memories around those, too. Playing with bubbles with my kids and grandkids... that's some of the best stuff in life. Even strangers tend to smile and want to catch bubbles if you blow some their way.

So, that's me and bubbles. But, I think you are using the phrase to mean you think I lack empathy. Is that right? What can I say? I try very hard but it ends up, I'm imperfect. I'm a bit confused about your "STILL." Have you been reading my posts for years and have noticed something you think I need to improve? If so, be specific because that's helpful.


There has NEVER been a successful show or movie with an interracial couple in a major role.


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You didn't even address what the producer on E! said because you know you're WRONG! There is a REASON he said audiences reject interracial pairings like this but since your live in your liberal bubble you won't even acknowledge it!


Okay, "liberal bubble." Again, this kind of labeling is the language of limited minds. Try being specific - AS IF - we were all unique individuals and one size doesn't fit all. You have to describe what you mean by the word, "liberal" to make yourself clear. It's like saying, "religious." Further detail is needed to actually communicate the meaning.

I'm wrong all of the time... I fail a lot, too. That's how I learn and grow and succeed. It appears I have a more friendly relationship with those concepts than you are experiencing. One thing I appreciate about the internet is that mistakes ARE pointed out and I'd rather learn than be stuck in being mistaken or ignorant, you know?

If you don't understand, maybe consider embracing being wrong out loud, in the spotlight - assert your right to be imperfect. There's freedom and courage in it - and a sense of humor helps a lot! (I need one just to be me.)

So, "image" is not why I didn't address what the E! producer said. I just took it as "a given" that their perspective is a valid one. NOT, the only one... but valid just the same.

And the Jeffersons was a hit because of George Jefferson who is one of the most iconic comedy characters in TV history. Norman Lear said he needed to introduce white characters into the show because he wanted to appeal to white audiences to expand their target demographic. Norman Lear HIMSELF said that he didn't have Lionel date any white women or have the Willises be a black man/white woman couple because it wouldn't go over well with both white AND black audiences! NORMAN LEAR said that you naive FOOL


Lear was talking about how American culture was in the 70's, right?

This is an excerpt from Pew Research on the matter:

In 2013, a record-high 12% of newlyweds married someone of a different race, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of census data. (This share does not take into account the “interethnic” marriages between Hispanics and non-Hispanics, which we covered in an earlier report on intermarriage.)

Looking beyond newlyweds, 6.3% of all marriages were between spouses of different races in 2013, up from less than 1% in 1970.

ETA: link - http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/12/interracial-marriage-who-is-marrying-out/



Am I a fool or am I allowing for context and facts? I know my answer to that. LOL, I am most definitely a fool - it's one of the perks of aging freely. :)

I think you are trying to say that racial tensions in America are still a problem. Yeah, I think we all know that. What I'm unclear about is if you think that is a challenge to be worked on or if you think that is a sign of some sort of natural order as a racist might erroneously assume.

You may say the times of changed but not so much because polls show racial relations are at the LOWEST they've been in MANY decades!! So there's a REASON interracial pairings like this are usually avoided but I see you live in a state of DENIAL!!


It's valuable to share your sources. Which polls? Like, if you refer to biased, propaganda sources such as Breitbart/KKK versus credible sources such as Gallop or Pew - where are you getting such notions from? I'm not in denial. I'm completely open to reading your research.

OWNED like always!!


And, this ^^^ is why I responded to the racist hue of your OP rather than to the producer's musings. I felt bad for you. That the concept of ownership of other human beings is a way you perceive your relationship to others reveals you've suffered debilitating harm. I really do hope you heal and get free of that paradigm. It's a mental prison and life can be so much more than that.

Ever heard, "You can't give what you don't have."? You can extrapolate to, "You can't see what you don't know." Human beings can't be "owned." Cornered, violently over-powered, captured, shackled, beaten, raped, tortured, enslaved - yes, these horrors happen, but none of that is ownership of another human being. The terminology expressing ownership is a racist construct, unrelated to fact. It's just a lie. Be above that.


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Oh joy! Another thread that is overflowing with ignorance and folks who don't realize that they have already destroyed any logical argument they could make to defend their nonsense.

There's very little here that even deserves a response, but I will say that I'm glad this doctor is not a gold digger going after the billionaire. For those who consider James Bell handsome, I hope you end up with someone like that in your life and you can spend your dinner time sitting across the table from an unfortunate young man who can't control those awful facial spasms that he's constantly exhibiting.

And, I could not be any prouder of my beautiful, intelligent, fun-filled and compassionate grandchildren who are the products of an interracial marriage. They live in a happy home with intelligent parents who are dedicated to keeping their marriage successful and setting a good example for their children.

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God bless you.

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megafauna -

people are SICK of PC!


Two things - first, just like changing the channel, not buying a ticket to a movie or using the "ignore" button on these boards, it's not a matter of what's out there... it's about being decent enough to be happy for others whom may enjoy what you don't.

Secondly, racists, sexists, religious zealots, homophobes... these are folk whom were indoctrinated into that kind of limited thinking before they were able to benefit from the learning of critical thinking skills.

As (at best), un-fun and uninteresting as those "haters" are, I think pity is appropriate. Many of them think that their limited mindset is a matter of taste, but really, it's an injury to the ability to think in rational, logical or fact-based ways. They don't know what is clear to everyone else - they bring that limitation to every area of their lives.

The good news is that there are very few afflicted with this crippling set of delusions and with each passing year, the rest of us have discovered new ways to heal them. New ways to help them open up and really live.

And, that's kind of magical when someone's heart grows and their mind opens.

As for the show and your confusion about why two characters are falling in love... more good news. The reason for your failure to perceive and to understand and to empathize is because you haven't experienced love yet. So, I'm just going to say, listen to those around you whom are able, and hope that you may someday experience it too.

To the haters of the haters - really? Isn't what they are suffering from and what may lie ahead for them the same as a previously religious person making that journey to atheism, or the soldier whom becomes a pacifist or citizen of one country and their form of government shifting allegiance to a new nation and its ways?

Maybe we could just expose these people to facts and leave some room for them to heal?

ETA: Women aren't motivated to love a person because they have money. Women interested in wealth work hard to accumulate it - as seen with this character whom chose a cutting edge-medicine career.

Disagree? You've likely been infected by sexist myths. Do some research on women so you get to know some facts. Hint - not a mystery.

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 Well said

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@kuntext, well said, though I'm afraid you're talking to a brick wall.

Women fall for guys for all sorts of reasons - some good, some not. Thank God my wife and I came together when we never would have looked like a good match before we met.

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Nice signature.

Where are the Asian characters DC CW? #MoreAsians

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I recall there was a bit of stink when the writers of ER (1994) paired Peter Benton (a black doctor) with Elizabeth Corday (a white doctor) after making his relationship with Carla Reece (a black nurse) fail. It was, IIRC, the only prime time drama at the time with a black man in a positive role, and his only successful love interest was with a white woman. I don't agree with people getting all riled up over these sort of things, but it was an interesting point.

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IIRC, Eric LaSalle was not a fan of that storyline. I understand to a point, not that I have a problem with IR relationships. I expect to see more on tv in the future.

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Those of y'all, that don't think 90+% of Hollywood have liberal views, then I'm guessing y'all went to college, with liberal thinking professors.
Either way, I'll stop before I cause a argument!!
It's a great show, but this would be my only knock on it!! And it could have been a white Dr. Bob, or Dr. John, and I still wouldn't have liked it!!
Most show watchers of all types, notices for some reason the main actor likes the girl, to watch her slip away into somebody else's arms, It just gets old!!
Hopefully they could bring in a beautiful, talented actress, to play as a new doctor on the show, and be a part of the team..
Other then that, I've found a site, that shows which actors/directors/producers/writers gang are liberal trouble makers, with bigmouths, and my new year resolution, are to stop buying movies/shows, that need a day off of work/class so the can go get a coloring book to color, because they didn't get there way!
PURE GENIUS, is one of my favorite shows, but some changes need to be made for me to continue to be a fan.
If not I'll just go back to watching my old favorite shows.
CODE BLACK LOVE THE ADDITION OF ROB LOWE
ELEMENTARY
CHICAGO FIRE
CHICAGO PD
NCIS LA
BULL
BLACK LIST
BLINDSPOT
BLUE BLOOD
I hope not all my shows are on that stupid list!! lol

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Don't think much of women either, apparently.

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