Michigan Governor... - Designated Survivor (2016) Discussion

[–] frankhsia 8 years ago

You can't trust red john.

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Haha, this guy is everywhere, isn't he? He was also mayor of Jericho. And he's been on so many other shows: The Good Wife, Person of Interest, Blue Bloods, Elementary... and those are just the ones I watch. Oh, and he was also in a couple episodes of 24.

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[–] davelanger 8 years ago

He was also on that show with the girl with all the tatoos.

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[–] steve4192 8 years ago

... and he almost always plays a jerk.

He has made one hell of a career for a guy who has been typecast.

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[–] thesnowleopard 8 years ago

Yeah, screw "legal options." Just send in the National Guard and arrest his treasonous ass. It's worked in the past.

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[–] blust2 8 years ago

Michigan is one of those purple states, not as liberal as New York or California, but certainly this cannot happen there. They should have chosen Texas or one of red states instead.

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[–] annlevtex 8 years ago

They chose Michigan because Detroit, and specifically the suburb of Dearborn, has the biggest concentration of Muslim-Americans in the country. A real thriving community, and for the most part pretty well-integrated.

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[–] kardargo 8 years ago

except yes, yes it could, if something like 99% of the leadership of this country is killed in a MASSIVE terrorist attack, even liberals are going to strike out. fear does that....

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[–] Conundrum-NSA 8 years ago

I also think they were trying to look like they weren't picking on red states.

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[–] larosat 8 years ago

Uh did you guys catch when the Prez said he didn't want to use force?

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[–] thesnowleopard 8 years ago

Uh did you guys catch when the Prez said he didn't want to use force?

Well, 1. no, because I was still watching the episode on my DVR and hadn't gotten to his solution, yet, and 2. it has worked before. Though I do think his solution was a clever way to get the threat across while giving the governor some face-saving options.

Though once the smoke cleared, it's almost a guarantee the police who beat the teenager to death would find themselves up on federal hate crimes charges.

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[–] larosat 8 years ago

As I'm sure you can surmise by now Kirkland tries to find diplomatic ways first and weighing his options but I believe eventually we will see him use force.

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[–] stevenackerman69 8 years ago

I guess Kirkland wanted to try to settle this by negotiating with the guy. He did sort of bluff him, though.

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[–] GanymedeElegy10 8 years ago

I suppose Kirkman didn't want to add fuel to the fire. The country had already been attacked by an unknown ennemy, it would look bad if the newly appointed unelected president started a internal war with the elected governor of a state.

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[–] belle2264 8 years ago

This subplot was tripe. The bad white cops/people are going to beat beautiful, peace-loving Muslims to death. It didn't happen after 9/11 - or in Paris or Belgium or London. But right out of the gate the show directs us to be disgusted by cops, Caucasians and Midwesterners. Who must be controlled by an enlightened, Ivy League-educated professor from the East Coast. Who, tantalizingly, COULD declare martial law on these racist rubes. What a Hollywood liberal wet dream.

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[–] movie_forum_eu 8 years ago

I agree.

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[–] rrattbbooyy 8 years ago

People watch a show for different reasons.

You have clearly found your reason.

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[–] belle2264 8 years ago

That would have been my reason to shut it off. But I like Kirkman and his wife and I'm interested in the whodunit and how he handles crises. This was lazy writing and hopefully it won't continue. If it is a major theme of each episode it won't be tolerable.

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[–] annlevtex 8 years ago

I kind of agree with you. It's a legitimate issue for the show to address, but it was way too heavy-handed. They had to make the Michigan governor act like kind of an ass and Kirkland supremely enlightened and patient. The kid had to die. Yada yada. It's not the plot point that bothers me, but how it was handled.

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[–] oneseat 8 years ago

It didn't happen after 9/11 - or in Paris or Belgium or London.

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2011/03/29/anti-muslim-incidents-sept-11-2001

http://www.dw.com/en/attacks-against-muslims-on-the-rise-after-paris-strikes/a-18878424

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[–] steve4192 8 years ago

Those were all individual acts of violence, not state-sponsored violence.

Honestly, the premise is laughable, ESPECIALLY in Michigan. There are way too many muslim voters, state representatives, and local politicians in Michigan for something like that to happen. It would be political suicide. If they wanted to go with that angle, they should have chosen a state where muslims have very little political power.

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[–] thesnowleopard 8 years ago

Those were all individual acts of violence, not state-sponsored violence.

Really? So, what would you call racial profiling, targeting of Muslims by the TSA, and fun practices like renditions?

Honestly, the premise is laughable, ESPECIALLY in Michigan.

Yeah, 'cause Dearborn is such a racial paradise. [/sarcasm]

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[–] belle2264 8 years ago

Were the police targeting Muslims at the apparent behest of a governor? Who bears a passing resemblance to a skinhead and was certainly acting like one. Whose cop beat to death a kid who was cuffed on the ground? And who seemed to be saying that was OK? As another poster said, it was so over the top as to be insulting to the viewers' intelligence.

In any event, I do not accept the underlying premise that a first or primary focus after a catastrophic terror event should be to lecture the VICTIMS that they are bad, wrong, racist and/or unintelligent. That is a cheap deflection. We get that not all Muslims are terrorists, but plenty of Muslims in the world argue that their religion mandates that they subjugate the West. I'd tag all proponents of Sharia as dangers to Western civilization and be duly wary.

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[–] sakutf 8 years ago

I certainly hope it wouldn't happen. Living in Michigan, I don't think it would.

That being said, things are different now than they were 15 years ago. People have had a decade of hearing that Dearborn is a threat. And having your government killed as you watch them live would certainly be a trigger.

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[–] Conundrum-NSA 8 years ago

Posse Comitatus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

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[–] astarte401 8 years ago

I liked the comparison to George Wallace.

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