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Utter tripe!

posted 8 years ago by spayer27
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Okay, so, there are so many holes in this show that it's ridiculous! The way we, today, have sightings of Elvis, JFK, Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, Sasquatch, etc., there should have been tons of sightings of Hitler, even though we can be virtually certain that he did, in fact, commit suicide in the bunker, and yet there are only a couple of supposed sightings, all of which, the witnesses are absolutely convinced that they saw him...from afar...and it couldn't have possibly been an imposter.

These guys begin the show by saying that they aren't going to bend the evidence to fit their theory, yet they spent 5 1/2 hours doing exactly that: "This is absolute proof that some high-ranking Nazi lived here..." Nothing about any of their "proof" shows any sign that any such person (and these could have been wealthy Nazi-sympathizers, not even of German birth, but born and raised in Argentina, and never having left there, or participated in any Nazi activities) would have been Hitler, himself. Not one iota of "proof" shows that he had anything to do with anything in Argentina! (or Brazil, or Colombia, for that matter).

There was this...hotel (in Brazil). In some isolated little town. And there was a ballet held there. And ONE person claims they saw Hitler and Eva there. ONE PERSON! And there was a horizontal antenna nearby. That is proof that Hitler was setting up his 4th Reich? Just because there was something that RESEMBLED an antenna that can be used for extremely long distance communication. In an isolated little town.

There are "stories" that there was an airplane dumped into a swamp in Colombia. But all they found was the remains of a submerged dock.

Bariloche is the "Berlin" of Argentina. Or is it the "Bavaria" of Argentina? They don't seem terribly clear as to which they want to compare it to. It's a pretty small town, so...Berlin? Really? Two German place names that begin with B, (and an Argentinian one, as well), and they get all confused. And there's all kinds of evidence that people there had Nazi sympathies...therefore Hitler was there. How do you responsibly make that leap?

There's a small house behind the mansion on the blueprints....PROOF that there must have been "some high-ranking Nazi being protected there". And yet, there is no evidence that this little house ever existed.

There are tunnels....this is PROOF that Hitler escaped the bunker, was protected in some hotel in rural Argentina. Quite a leap of "evidence".

And...there were high ranking Nazis who escaped to Argentina. They found proof of it! Really? As if we didn't know this? THIS, there has never been any question of...tons of them were found, captured, and brought to justice.

They didn't know that there had been escaped Nazis in Brazil? What did they think the movie "The Boys From Brazil" was about? Or did they manage to miss that one, altogether? Maybe this...CIA Agent Bob Baer was out of the country on assignment for the entire time that it was running in the theaters? And it didn't run wherever he was.

They can't even get their facts straight. In describing the "torpedo tunnel" in the Canaries, they say it's 700 meters long. That's .4 miles. But the map says .6 miles. And then, in the following episode, they are talking about the tunnel as being 7 km long. That's a huge difference! Was the tunnel 7 km? .7 km? .4 mi? .6 mi? Can they convert miles to Km? It's not that complicated.

And, the distance from Vigo to Buenos Aires: They claim it's 7000 miles, in one episode, and that stopping in the Canaries would cut the trip, virtually in half. It's 9900km (6100 mi) from Vigo to BA, and 1000 km from Vigo to the Canaries, about 8250 km from the Canaries to BA. 1000/8250. Sure, that's really cutting the trip in half.

The whole thing smacked, from the very first promo, of "Al Capone's Vaults". The only reason I watched it was because my teenaged son insisted that it was true...and I needed to have the ammo to argue with him. I won so soundly that he didn't watch more than half the series!

It wouldn't have seemed quite so annoying if they hadn't repeated the same "teaser" sound bytes so many times, before and after every commercial break, before and after the show. The entire "series" could have been done in an hour and a half, if you cut all the wasted time on teasers.

[–] slidell333 8 years ago

The show appeared to take their dramatic "teaser" sound bytes from The Curse of Oak Island...another dog *beep* History Channel show. I'm surprised they didn't use the same narrator, Robert Clotworthy....."Could this Swastika carved on a tree in Argentina mean this was the exact spot Hitler likely took his lunch as a free man after the War?" Then a commercial break.

Dave "Crown Time" Blankenship for Time Man of the Year.

[–] fullautoarmalite 8 years ago

Drama drama drama and dramatic music, before every commercial and then you get back and nothing. If America keeps going down this slippery slope, then our history will be so corrupted and clouded but no one will even know the real truth.

[–] slidell333 8 years ago

Yea it is a little scary that people do watch this and take it as actual history.

Dave "Crown Time" Blankenship for Time Man of the Year.

[–] baltopro 8 years ago

Yep, I agree, this series is utter tripe. Seems like every key event in history gets some cockamamie conspiracy BS treatment.

[–] tsheehan-86345 8 years ago

I cannot tell you how freaking grateful I am to see people with common sense on here! I love it how they mention that Hitler would have had no motive to kill himself. Never mind that he expected his highest ranking field marshalls to commit suicide if they lost a decisive battle. And when one didn't Hitler considered him a coward. Now Hitler was scum but he was no coward and he could not have lived with himself under these on-the - run conditions. They don't even fully know the Hitler they claim escaped. I guess they assume that the audience thinking will not go past "oh Hitler was bad so of course he would try to escape."

[–] de3206 8 years ago

Thank you!!! Another BS "investigative" show like the Oak Island cr*p. These shows that rehash old crappy theories/legends and then tease you and drag you along ( if your IQ is below measurement) are a sad commentary on what we've become.

US TV continues to get worse and worse with this junk and other "reality" shows.....Alaskan Plumbing Disasters and Chasing Charybdis will be next.

Honestly, I find myself watching almost zero US network TVthese days, and watching stuff from UK, Scandanavia, France.

I have 5 billion cable channels, and I mostly watch, Amazon, Acorn, Netflix, and MHz choice.

[–] chazspe 8 years ago

There is no proof Hitler's body was found in a bunker. If he were to escape he probably would have tried to make it to Argentina like many others Nazi's. Though the show is dramatic, it does provoke thought of the possibility of Hitlers survival. This show is meant to entertain viewers and start dialogue. It is not meant to be a history lesson.

[–] rgibson-20 8 years ago

A jawbone analyzed by forensic scientists is no proof? Did Hitler run around Argentina with half a face? I'm sure the History Channel film flam artists love you.

[–] slicksterzz 8 years ago

He died in Berlin. Hitler's dentist was captured after the war by the Americans. Two of his dental techs were captured by the Russians. Each independently reconstructed the details of Hitler's dental work from memory. Their reconstructions meshed completely, and they fit with the details of the dental work on the jaw fragments attributed to Hitler AND to the skull X-rays taken of him by his doctor after the July 20 bomb attempt. Bottom line, there is solid forensic proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Hitler died in Berlin. For a detailed account of the forensic exam go to http://www.nl-aid.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Sognnaes.pdf

[–] waldenpond88 7 years ago

Sounds convincing!

However, I still wonder about the persistent rumor that Hitler's skull found by the Russians and checked by forensic experts after 1990 (breakdown of communism) was not his skull, but due to it's size the skull of a woman (not Eva Braun though)?

[–] slicksterzz 7 years ago

The skull fragment was subjected to DNA testing in 2009 and found to be that of a woman. But nobody ever claimed it was his, it was recovered from the burial pit about a year after the end of the war.

[–] waldenpond88 7 years ago

From what I know they've never found Hitler's skull in Germany or in Russia. But that doesn't mean he was not buried somewhere in Berlin. There was so much chaos since the Russian army reached the city. Many people died during the fights which lasted for many weeks. Some of them probably were put into mass graves, because they were unidentifiable (no papers).

However, they identified Martin Bormann in 1972 when construction workers found him in Berlin, Germany. That finally put the decades old rumor to rest that he escaped vis O. D. E. S. S. A. to South America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bormann

[–] slicksterzz 7 years ago

The corpse believed by the Russians to be Hitler's was positively ID'd through examination of the dental remnants. http://www.nl-aid.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Sognnaes.pdf

[–] waldenpond88 7 years ago

When?
Last week?
As far far as I know (from watching hundreds of WW II documentaries) it never got found.

[–] slicksterzz 7 years ago

Bodies were found, the Russians did autopsies. A book detailing them was published by Lev Bezyminski in 1968.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Adolf_Hitler#Aftermath

The Russians stated that the bodies were moved several times in the following years and were ultimately cremated in Magdeburg in 1970 and the ashes dumped in a river.

[–] spayer27 8 years ago

it does provoke thought of the possibility of Hitlers survival.

Maybe. But the end result is that there is no reason to think that he survived, nor is there any credible evidence that he did, despite what they kept trying to convince us during the commercials and breaks and teasers.

There was not a shred of realistic evidence posited that shows that Hitler actually was alive, or exited Germany. Just a lot of smoke and mirrors, innuendo, evidence that possibly someone of high rank might have been in South America after the war. Might have gone to Colombia, etc One old guy swearing that he saw Hitler and Eva, in a crowded room, from far away, doesn't qualify as credible evidence. People claiming that someone was spirited into some room and kept closeted, that they never actually saw, doesn't mean that Hitler was in that room. Some guy who was 18 saw Hitler at the Spanish castle, from 1000 yards away, didn't speak to him, and didn't actually see from close enough to identify...it could easily have been a double, or someone who just kind of looked like him. In fact, many of the Spanish generals/colonels might just have easily looked like him from that distance.

And it's "Nazis". No apostrophe. Apostrophes are NOT used to denote plurality in English. They are used for contractions, and possessive nouns (but not pronouns, hence: "It's" (the dog's) bone... is incorrect.

[–] chazspe 8 years ago

I always love it when people focus on the unimportant things in a response. Your grammar is more impressive than your open mind and critical analysis of entertainment.

[–] slicksterzz 7 years ago

The show is an exercise in speculation, nothing more, but is presented as an actual plausible possibility. They dismiss or ignore the real evidence of his death, which is rather dishonest. They're peddling a false narrative to make a buck.

[–] aldiboronti 7 years ago

It really does restore one's faith in mankind to see so many sane responses here. Excellent post, spayer27. I couldn't agree more.