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Not offered on this series,but a way Hitler could have survived .......


The main piece of evidence of Hitler's death is the jawbone.IF (and emphasize IF) one of the four (4) known Hitler doppelgangers (doubles) was sacrificed (or volunteered) and had his jawbone/teeth used as the official record it would pretty much convince the typical,rigid thinking critic of absolute proof of Hitler's death when the remains were found in the Bunker Garden.This would actually not be that difficult.The doppelganger would have been interacting with people who were only casually acquainted with Hitler and who like most eye witnesses were unreliable.They would NOT have questioned the person who was introduced to them as Hitler and who had the clothing and distinctive mustache.The dental technicians would have been in this group. Did it happen that way? Were the four doppelgangers ever accounted for? We may never know. I DO feel that the evidence of Bormann surviving is strong.He most likely died in South America and had his remains moved to Berlin years later. It's all speculation but Hitler could have survived if a doppelganger was used to provide "absolute proof" of his death in 1945 Berlin.

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But if that were the plan, there should have been a falsified dental history left behind, with X-rays, charts and pages of written or transcribed notes to corroborate the autopsy report and the testimony of the techs. But there was none. Relying solely on the autopsy of a corpse charred beyond visual recognition and two techs who would have been considered suspect would have been risky. Hard forensic documentation confirming the other evidence would have been needed for the best chance of success. They would have had only one shot at it, the execution of the plan would have to be done right the first time. And the Russians did go to Dr. Blaschke's intact, undamaged Berlin office and recovered records for a number of Nazi patients including Heinrich Himmler. But no record for Hitler was left. Why not? Such documentation would have confirmed his death beyond a reasonable doubt in a matter of days, forestalling any sort of international manhunt. He would have been free to build his Fourth Reich or do whatever he wanted safe in the knowledge that nobody was looking for him because he had already been declared dead. That's the gaping hole in your proposition.

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What I offered was a concrete way to explain the jawbone evidence.The doppelganger plan could not have anticipated what evidence was allowed to surface by the Russians.The Russians may have found a matching Hitler dental record and never revealed it due to being suspicious it was real or simply being Russian and keeping the info to themselves.More than one Soviet stated that Stalin obsessed that Hitler survived the war and that Stalin would often sit alone in a room with some of Hitler's possessions fixated upon that possibility until his death in 1953.The real question is what happened to the four doppelgangers.Does anyone know? As for a Fourth Reich,there were not enough resources left for it to happen.If Hitler did survive he most likely was unfit to lead any such effort anyway after 1945.He was in increasingly poor health after 1944 and would have been little more than an inspirational figurehead to surviving Nazi's.

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Granted there's no guarantee as to what documentation would ultimately be found by the Russians. But the attempt would almost certainly have been made. Successfully faking Hitler's death would have been a vital part of any escape plan, they couldn't afford to plan or execute it in such a half-assed manner. And the Nazis were renowned for being very thorough and meticulous. Given that Blaschke's office did survive the battle for Berlin, it would have been found. And while it might not have been immediately released to the public it eventually would have been released along with the other evidence they had. Once Stalin died, few people were interested in perpetuating the myth of his escape. Certainly Stalin's successor Nikita Khrushchev knew he was dead. In a memoir he wrote he told of a phone call he received from Marshal Georgy Zhukov in Berlin. Apparently at one point Zhukov had told Khrushchev that he was going to take Hitler alive and bring him through Kiev on the way to Moscow so that Khrushchev could see him. Instead Zhukov called to tell him that he wouldn't be able to keep his promise, that Hitler had killed himself and his body was burned.

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I credit you as being an intelligent person.Think about it,if there WAS a doppelganger used to provide evidence of Hitler's death it would put an end to further searching for Hitler.It was NOT "half-assed" to have used such a scheme.There could logically be something to the theory of a "stand-in" being part of a meticulous plan to save Hitler by his fanatical loyalists.Read the book "Hitler in Argentina".It makes you wonder if Hitler survived the war. As for Zhukov's statements they were pure heresay with no evidence to support them.

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Well if he really wanted to escape he could have just left. He had plenty of opportunity to. He could have left anytime before the USSR cut off Berlin. After that he could have flown out with Hanna Reitsch and the one thing the show did prove was that even after Soviet Forces entered Berlin he had a plausible route from the Bunker to Templehoff. Either he had decided to die in Berlin or in his drugged up psychotic mind he thought victory was still possible. For whatever reason he decided to stay.

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There would be no way for Hitler to have "just left" Berlin.He would have been hounded and searched for until the end of time.By using a "fall guy" to provide seeming incontrovertible evidence of the death of Hitler (the remains of the doppelganger) with "definite" proof through the jawbone and teeth and dental records identified as being that of Hitler,no scientific person would ever question his death.

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Without a doubt.I did not mean to imply that he would have avoided capture or death, indefinitely I was only referring to Berlin. All I meant was that had he decided to leave Berlin he would have had been able to. He could gave left any time prior to the Soviets cutting off the city. Even afterward he still had opportunities either via aircraft or on the ground. The end result probably would have been the same, the only that would have changed is the place of his death.

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Any idea when we can view next episode. I've watched up to season 2 episode 8. I'm addicted to watching it. I find it so interesting..

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The season is over. Hopefully History will come to their senses and dump this load of BS but I doubt it.

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