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Please no Sean next season


I don't mean to be harsh, but I can't stand his parts. I've come to ff through all of his parts. He treats people like crap, but more importantly his obsession with being a ladies man and "making out" is just so over the top. It's creepy. His parents needed to have nipped this in the bud a long time ago. I think they think it's cute and charming. It's not. The character is just so one dimensional. Everyone else has other interests and goals. He just incessantly talks about girls and making out, and again, he's extremely rude to everyone that cares about him. Replace him please!

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What do you mean Character, do you mean his personality? He;s a guy with DS that is interested in girls, he's probably never had a girlfriend or been really kissed, he's no worse then teenage boys. I'd rather see Elena gone before him.

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Thank you for pointing out that he has DS! I'm not the only one who feels this way. He doesn't treat people nicely. His entire focus is on "babes" all day every day. Maybe it was cute season 1, now it's obsessive and a little creepy. This was discussed and agreed upon in another thread. His parents need to try and focus him on something else and teach him hiw to better treat others. They just laugh these things off. DS or not, not cool.
The other folks who are the same age who also date and are interested in the opposite sex, have other interests and do and talk about other things....which makes them interesting. And yes he has had a gf, has been kissed. And no he doesn't sound like every other teen boy.

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I wasn't point out that he had DS, I was aware that you knew he had it, I was simply saying that he is a guy with DS that likes girls. People with DS at times go overboard with emotions and things more then someone with out DS. I mean just look at them when tehy are in their interviews, the way they get so embarrassed and giggly over small things. Also its great that this was talked about in another thread and agreed upon by some people (not all people feel this way). You make a post and then seem to take offense that someone replies and they don't agree with you. I was unaware that if you make a post that everyone has to agree with the OP.

While I do think at times he goes overboard, I dont find it as horrible as you do and as I've said, I find more issues with Elena then I do with him.

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That's what you call taking offense? I simply stated my opinion, and knew that someone would inevitably point out that he has DS....

I then simply pointed out that I already knew he had DS and restated my points.

That's generally how these things work. You each state your case, etc.

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Well you did take offense that I said something about him having DS. Which I already knew you knew that, you apparently watch the show, so if you didn't know he had DS that would be weird.

Either way, it doesnt matter now, I simply don't feel the same as you and that's okay, doesn't mean your right or I'm right. Just how we both feel.

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Exactly my point. You just said you already knew I knew he had DS, so there would be no reason to bring it up then, right? Unless it was a subtle attempt to put me in PC jail for having the nerve to critique this kid's bad behavior. His DS, does not excuse his behavior, so again, why bring it up? That was my only beef with your comment.
On everything else, we'll agree to disagree.
Cheers

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I'd be pretty okay with Sean no longer being on the show. However, I'm still holding put hope that we'll see him grow up. It would take his parents waking up though, which I don't think is likely.

There is no way I'd blame DS for Sean's fixations, selfishness, and all around creepiness. His inappropriate behaviors have been allowed to grow in an environment of parents that have kind of thrown their hands up and decided, "that's our boy!" *Let the mom's childish laughing begin.*

They really need to watch over the episodes and see, "that's not cute; we can expect better from him." On a bonus clip, Sean's mom addressed what Sean said from a previous episode that she found controversial. It was when he told Rachel he wanted a girlfriend without DS, and his mother said it was just his way of letting her down easy. (They've been friends for years.) She wanted to make it clear Sean would not discriminate someone for having DS.

I was thinking, "lady, that's the last thing you should think is an issue with Sean." So my hopes that the parents will watch the episodes and have an "aha moment" about Sean modifying some of his unfavorable behaviors is slim to none.

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On a bonus clip, Sean's mom addressed what Sean said from a previous episode that she found controversial. It was when he told Rachel he wanted a girlfriend without DS, and his mother said it was just his way of letting her down easy. (They've been friends for years.) She wanted to make it clear Sean would not discriminate someone for having DS.


Wasn't that Stephen that said he didn't want a GF that had DS, not Sean?

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Steven has expressed it too, yes, but in season 1, Sean said it once. They were at "Leaps N' Bounds" (or however that's spelled), and Rachel proposed to Sean that they could date, and he said he would prefer a girlfriend without Down Syndrome. Sean's mother did one of the show's bonus clips, and addressed that screen and what Sean said.

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Hmm I dont remember him saying (he apparently did if you're saying he did), but it is weird for him to say it seeing how he loves girls in general. He doesnt seem like he'd be choosy, lol, I wonder if he said it only b/c he didnt want to date her.

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Yes, like I said, Sean's mom said it was a way to let down Rachel. Heck, the girl he was dating in season 2 has DS, and wasn't he crushing on another girl who had DS in season 1, when they went to an event in another state?

Here's a link to the bonus clip: https://youtu.be/PDa6oLZ91rI

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Yeah I think she did have DS

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I also think in one clip i saw from season 1 maybe, I remember his mother talking about how he's liked girls and had gfs, but for SOME reason, the girls parents always inevitably tell them that they don't want their daughter to date Sean anymore. That always struck me as odd. Sean's mother of course laughed it off, and blamed it on something else, but me thinks the parents were probably skeeved out by Sean and his behavior. Otherwise, it really doesn't make sense for ALL of his gfs parents to be fine with them dating in the beginning, but eventually changing their mind EVERYTIME.

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You're so right. Sean's mother also addresses "overprotective parents" in the bonus clip I posted. I'm smelling something else made these past partners' parents put the kibosh on these relationships with Sean.

I don't doubt that some parents are unfairly overprotective, but Sean's mom did say there were some relationships, which suggests these parents were on board initially. What changed for some (all?) of them? Sean's inappropriate behaviors? I think that's a fair guess. Per usual, Sean's mom seems to be a bit oblivious to the real issues.

She also said Sean wants to marry one day, and it sounds like she thinks that is a realstic goal for him. Yay for the "no limitations" vibe, but Sean has a long way to go before he could be in a long term relationship where respect and responsibility are necessities.

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Agree with everything you said Katie. I knew someone was going to bring up the fact that he has DS, as a way to excuse the bad behaviors. Everyone else on the show seems very sweet, thoughtful, caring, empathetic, multidimensional and interesting. This kid is the opposite of everyone of those things, and I don't think it has to do with him having DS at all. Steven is one of the sweetest guys I've seen in a long time. John is funny as hell. Angel is adorable. And then there's sean. He's rude to everyone, from his parents, to his friends. I think he thinks it's funny sometimes with the CHILLAX comments. And his parents Def have not done him any favors.
When Elena was behaving badly in the beginning, the issue was addressed and handled. When Christina was behaving badly re her jealousy, it was addressed and handled. It seems like this has been allowed to fester all his life, like maybe his parents were trying to overcompensate for him having DS, by allowing him to do and say what he wants, which has done him a great disservice.
Now he's hella creepy and he has the same answer to everything....even on the bonus clips yesterday, dude was STILL talking about being a ladies man and getting babes, to the producers.

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I would be okay if Sean disappeared from the show...he is my least favorite, for many of the reasons stated....

Sean is rude, he's disrespectful & he has no filters and knows no boundaries...his parents, from what has been shown, think his attitude towards "babes" (I am so sick of Sean talking about babes all the time he's like a ram in rut who can't think about anything else) is okay and they just laugh it off...I liked when Christina was shown being jealous of Angel's talking with Elena et al, they and Rachel sat down and had a serious conversation with Christina telling her she was in the wrong...have never seen that with Sean's parents, even after Sean treated his friend and his friend's girlfriend rudely, even after he treated Steven rudely (about them being roommates) and when they were at the DS convention all Sean could think about was getting a girlfriend and making out with her...

He to me is just plain offensive, and it has NOTHING to do with his being a DS adult...its his attitude, and that fact that his parent's will not hold him in check or talk to him about it makes it even worse...

The less of Sean the better....I would love to see more of Frank, the one that Rachel had a date with...they were cute together, and I like Angel and how he is with Christina....


"Life is like a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death."

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Yes, exactly. Everyone else gets called out on their bad behavior.....Elena, Christina. Sean's parents just laugh it off and think it's charming. They think they are being good cool parents. But they are doing him a hugr disservice. It's gonna continue to get worse and worse. I think he's 21 now. As he gets even older, people are not going to want to be around him. It's really unfortunate.

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Aw - Sean's cringe-worthiness has become something I look forward to.

And (this may sound horrible but...) he's my favorite person to imitate. He's got this thing where he puts a really strong annunciation on the "T" sound in words. Like when he says the word "date."

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Haha, he does have some entertainment value. In the bonus clips episode yesterday, seeing him in sunglasses and a beard, twirling a t-shirt, I totally thought, "he is pure frat boy!" On this board, Iris had made the comparison, and it is so accurate!

Ultimately, I want him to tone it the heck down though, out of respect for those around him. Some frat boys never grow up, and Sean may be just another one in that category.

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Yeah I just watched the clip episode and... OMG! When they showed Sean as a baby?
What a cute baby he was!

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Sean looked so much better with the longer hair and beard! Even if he doesn't keep the beard, he should keep his hair like it was in the interview clips.

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The "ladies' man" theme was downplayed this season. I do think his parents recognized that it was a problem and talked with him about it, because he even said that he's no longer a ladies' man in one of the earlier episodes of this season. I thought there was a decent amount of the other parts of his personality shown this season. I enjoyed seeing him at work. Ultimately, though, he does seem to be the most immature of the bunch, which could be because he has a lower IQ than some of the others.

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