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Reasons Steven Avery is guilty...


Can someone post here bullet points stating the reasons that they believe SA is guilty, things that were left out of the documentary etc.

In all honestly I can't be bothered to read up on it myself so would appreciate it (as i'm sure many others would)

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reasons+avery+is+guilty

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You're asking the OP to look around a little by themselves. That's asking a lot! The OP is clearly too lazy and wants someone else to do basic work for them.

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Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.

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He asked for her by name to come take pics and answered the door only in a towel once which creeped her out.

He calls her using *67 and gives his sisters info for her to come photograph a van.

She shows up and signs a bill of a sales. He calls her phone after and leaves a message saying she didn't show up and wondering what happened to her.

He instantly changes his story from she didn't show up, to she did and left.

His sweat is found under the hood of her car, on her keys as is his blood.

The metal in the tires from his burn pile is found intertwined in her bones.

Her cell phone, PDA and purse is in his burn pile.

Neighbors testified to watching him tend the fire that night including a female family member that stopped by.

His nephew shows up at home with bleach stains on his pants.

balistics show the bullet with her DNA was fired from the rifle above his bed.

Inmates from his 85 conviction come forward saying he talked about wanting to build a torture chamber for women and that the best way to get rid of a body is to burn it.

Steven was investigated for a sexual assault charge after a year after he was freed.

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everyone is guilty of something

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Some good points from stevenavery.com



What Making a Murderer didn't tell you
•All blood vials have a hole in the top- it's how the blood gets in
•The evidence seal on the blood vial's box was broken in a meeting with Avery's own lawyers from his wrongful conviction suit
•The FBI did release a report stating the detection levels of their EDTA test
•EDTA testing had been greatly improved since it's invention, and the test was reliable
•The bullet with Teresa's DNA on it was linked to Avery's exact gun (pages 208-209), not just that model
•The process of crushing a car takes hours, requires a lot of preparations and is very noisy. Avery couldn't have done it without his brothers, who managed the yard and knew what work was supposed to be done, noticing
•Lenk and Colborn were not named in Avery's lawsuit, and the county was not being sued for $36 mil. Vogel and Kocourek, who had both retired, were named in the suit and being sued for the majority of the money
•It was Kocourek's personal insurance that was refusing to cover his liability, not Manitowoc County's
•An underage female relative of Avery's accused him of sexually assaulting her, describing how he pinned his arms down and raped her, and threatened her to keep it a secret or he'd hurt her family
•Teresa's phone, camera, and PDA were found in a burn barrel on Avery's property
•Robert Fabian, a friend of Earl Avery's, testified he smelled burning plastic and saw a fire coming from a burn barrel on October 31 (where Teresa's electronics were found)
•Avery called Teresa twice on October 31, using *67 to hide his number. He called again at 4:35pm, this time not using *67. At this time, her phone was already off and had presumably been destroyed. Those were the only calls that day he used *67 when dialing.
•Police records show Avery had a history of violence against women, including beating and strangling
•Avery states in the documentary Lori took his kids away from him. In fact, a judge issued a court order barring his kids from seeing him, saying "He has huge anger. He has real potential to harm people, and he's not dealt with any of that."
•The DOJ Arson Bureau specialist testified that tires and the van seat used as accelerants in a fire could burn a body within a few hours
•The DOJ Arson Bureau specialist testified that Teresa's bones were so entwined "inside the wire [of melted tires in Avery's burn pit], deeply inside of it in some cases [...] to the point where I actually had to, physically, pull apart the wire in order to get it there"
•Kayla's counselor testified Kayla specifically asked them if blood could seep up through concrete, before police knew anything about the garage as a possible crime scene
•The bullet was found on the first thorough search of the garage, and previously they had not even moved equipment out to search under it
•The key was found on the second search of the trailer; the previous entries the documentary claimed were "searches" were: a 10-minute sweep to look for any sign of Teresa alive, an entry to retrieve the guns seen on the initial sweep, an entry to get the serial number from Steven's computer for use in a warrant, and the crime lab luminol testing the residence.




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