Leftist propaganda scars another show - The Witcher (2019) Discussion

There's plenty of strong female characters in the books.
I hope they will get Gina Carano to play Black Rayla.

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[–] alanparsons (541) 4 years ago

Strong female characters does not equal feminism. Modern feminism is the subjugation of men to women, and women acting like all out whores and pretending it brings them some sort of strength and dignity.

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[–] djangounlamed (1769) 3 years ago

Lol incel detected...... you prob write online about how women ignore you even though you tip your fedorah to them and hold the door open saying "milady"

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[–] alanparsons (541) 3 years ago

Point out the terrible nature of the left and they respond with "you probably aren't having sex"! Because the left knows what they are doing is wrong and the only childish response they can come up with is about sex. I'm married with 3 children so that blows your nonsense out of the water. But you are clearly a degenerate moron.

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[–] scannerdarkly (1274) 2 years ago

You called out what we see on a regular basis, Its true what you wrote about the "modern feminist".

But I dont think The Witcher is ruined by the left. I can see the "agenda" in many movies and shows and sometimes its a fleeting scene or its the entire thing. Witcher has strong men, and Yennefer touted being a "strong woman that need no man and didnt want kids either" but we see how she is hurting for making that original choice and has strived to set right the mistakes she made. Yennefer is the anti-thesis to the modern feminist. She highlights their flawed thinking and this show is putting it all out for those to see.

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[–] HarlemEagle42 (16152) 4 years ago

Hmm, not so much as forum threats complaining about it.

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[–] alanparsons (541) 4 years ago

Yes. It is MUCH more pathetic to waste all that time, money and effort creating a fantasy world where black people live alongside white people in equal numbers in an ancient place styled after Europe - all this to normalize and mask that white people are being replaced on a global scale.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 4 years ago

Hey, I've seen that movie. There were these alien pods and they killed people and duplicated them, until everyone was an emotionless copy and the human race was extinct. If that's happening for real we have to fight back - before we're all replaced! 😎

You gotta love the paranoia of the far right. Not to mention the overt racism.

I could be wrong, but wasn't there a project named after this guy?

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

You can call it as you wish, but using the term 'paranoia' in particular is ludicrous. Replacement in western countries is very real.

I suggest you go back to old good 'nazi', 'evil', 'wrongful', 'fascist', 'wicked', 'racist', 'despicable' and similar, that are far more vague and serve for anything.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 4 years ago

Nazi, fascist, and racist are examples of words with well defined meanings. Not my fault if some people take liberties with them. For example here's the definition of racism according to Webster:

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

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a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism

3 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Are people getting wiped out? Because if all you have is immigration, they're just being added. No one is being replaced. That's incendiary nonsense, and if you look at the kind of people pushing it ... by any rational standard terms like racist or white supremacist certainly do describe most of them.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

This definition of racism is completely outdated. Language changes, and it takes some time to update dictionaries (people use to stick to the old definitions, like they were written in stone).

(1) Intelligence is heavily linked to genetics (environment and education matters too, but in a much lesser degree). That's not a opinion, that's a fact. And (2) different races/sexes have different average intelligence, and different dispersion (statistical deviation). Again, that's not a opinion, that's a fact. Nowadays, stating those two facts is enough to be labeled as racist.

I find a bit stupid that, in order to not to be labeled as racist, you have to deny reality. But hey, that's our time. I didn't invent it.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 4 years ago

Don't know where you got your information. There is in fact no detectable difference in average intelligence from one ethnic group to another, or between males and females. Same with most other characteristics. Skin color and other cosmetic changes can be noticeable in less than a thousand years but cognitive development takes far far longer. No group of humans has yet lived in isolation from all others for anywhere near enough time.

The inhabitants of North Sentinel Island in the Andaman archipelago have probably been isolated the longest (that we know of), tens of thousands of years, possibly since before the last glaciation. We haven't been able to test any of them. They're quite hostile to outsiders. But they exhibit enough ingenuity that it's highly unlikely we'd find them lacking in the brains department. There have been large scale genetic studies and there simply is no basis for what you're saying. None. In fact aside from the cheetah humans are the least genetically diverse species on the planet. Think of us as identical cars, all the same model but with different paint jobs.

One can certainly debate the relative merits of different cultures. That's another issue entirely.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

There is in fact no detectable difference in average intelligence from one ethnic group to another

Ahem...

Race IQ
Ashkenazi Jews 110
East Asians (China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore) 105
Europeans (Northern and Western Europe is 100; Eastern and Southeastern Europe is 95) 97
American Indians (North and South America) 90
Hispanic-Americans 89
Southeast Asians (Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Borneo) 87
Pacific Islanders (Natives of New Zealand, Micronesia, Melanesia, Polynesia, and Hawaii) 85
African-Americans 85
South Asians (Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, the Gulf states, the Near East, and Turkey) 84
North Africans 84
Sub-Saharan Africans 70
Australian Aborigines 62
http://aristocratsofthesoul.com/average-iq-by-race-and-ethnicity/

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 4 years ago

You posted a link to a right wing website as your evidence. 🤣

I don't know where those numbers came from, but geneticists and evolutionary biologists have debunked white supremacist theories of racial genetic superiority over and over. There is more variation within a given population of humans than between different populations - which is just another way of saying we're all built to the same specs in terms of our DNA.

Bogus information has proliferated in recent years, on a wide range of issues. "Alternative facts" (a.k.a. bullѕhit) has become a cottage industry. Check real peer-reviewed research done by real scientists, working for reputable institutions, you'll find the truth is exactly what I said.

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[–] papamihel (1574) 4 years ago

"I don't know where those numbers came from, but geneticists and evolutionary biologists have debunked white supremacist theories of racial genetic superiority"

I don't think this has anything to do with genes. It's cultural.
Also IQ tests are not applicable to every culture on Earth. We are all too different.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

Intelligence is heavily linked to genes. Education can improve it, but not too much. The primary factor is genetic.

What you do with that intelligence is cultural. China, for example, has higher average intelligence even than Europe. And they're a billion people. If they had some kind of Germanic culture, men would have already colonized Mars.

You need both things, intelligence and culture. An efficient culture with a low intelligence a population is useless. High intelligence with a shitty culture is useless too. Having one of them is not enough.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

• "You posted a link to a right wing website as your evidence"

I used the first link that appeared in google, tell them. You don't like it? No problem, here you have a paper summarizing 30 years of scientific research about cognitive differences between races. As you can see, the conclusion is the same

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

I suppose that must be far-right too. Anyway.

• "geneticists and evolutionary biologists have debunked white supremacist theories"

And yadda, yadda, yadda. What I have posted is empirical data. No theories. Data. And trying to "debunk" empirical data has a name: religion.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 4 years ago

Jean-Philippe Rushton and Arthur Jensen are both well known figures on the far right, heavily involved with neo Nazi and other white supremacist groups, who attempted to create a veneer of scientific backing for racial hereditary intelligence theories. Pseudoscience is probably the kindest description you will hear from their academic colleagues. They reference a lot of numbers and results from other questionable studies. The mere fact that someone puts figures and graphs in their paper doesn't mean it's solid science. Where did they get them from? And would they justify the conclusions reached, if accurate? Those things are pretty important. One of the hazards of tenure that you occasionally wind up with guys like this in your department.

Among the many connections between the two men (who often collaborated): J. Philippe Rushton was the head of the Pioneer Fund from 2002 until his death in 2012. This is a white nationalist organization that funds studies like the work of Arthur Jensen - who received more than $1 million from them. They campaigned against desegregation during the civil rights movement, against the mere attempt to educate African American children (arguing it was pointless), and continue to crusade against immigration to this day. Read up on these two. It gets a lot worse. Nazi style eugenics, among other things.

Theories of hereditary racial superiority are no more valid than the "science" of climate change denial - look closely at the studies and you'll find sloppy methods, questionable data and conclusions, and ties to people with money pushing the agenda.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

I knew it. I KNEW IT!!! 😂

Don't ask how according to this "white" supremacist paper, the ethnicity with the highest average IQ is... Asians. 😆

Or how the paper summarizes about 30 years of research and references about a hundred of papers. All of them must be nazis. NAAAZIIIIS! WH'TE S'PRIMASIIIISTS!

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Of course, the truth is far more prosaic. Rushton, or Jensen, or Pioneer Funds are no nazis, or white supremacists, or whatever. They just happened to investigate (or fund) a topic that is considered taboo by the Woke Church: the relation between intelligence or personality and genetics/environment. Pioneer Funds, for example, funded the twin study:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Twin_Family_Study#The_Minnesota_Study_of_Twins_Reared_Apart
which investigated differences between 8000 identical twins raised in different families. It's a very smart way to tell apart between traits due to environment vs genetics.

Investigating that is taboo. The Woke Church does what churches have done through history: they use label to inspire FEAR and control people. The "white supremacist" label is the equivalent of the "devil worshipper" label used centuries ago. And it works. Most scientists right now are afraid to investigate or even talk about that, because in modern world, being labeled by the Woke Church is dangerous. They won't burn you at the stake (not yet), but they can destroy your career and get you fired.

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By the way, Jensen didn't campaign "against the mere attempt to educate African American children (arguing it was pointless)". What he said is that education has a limited impact in intelligence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Much_Can_We_Boost_IQ_and_Scholastic_Achievement%3F
That doesn't mean that you're "against education" or whatever. It just means that education is not the Holy Grail. It's important, it's positive, but it doesn't make miracles. If a population has a limited IQ, education barely will change it.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 4 years ago

Talk about low IQs. That "data" has been refuted. Just because some idiot throws out a bunch of numbers or puts them on a nice colorful graph doesn't mean it's accurate, or that their conclusions represent solid science.

The Pioneer Fund is a well established white nationalist organization that funds a lot of pseudoscience - but is also politically active and counts a number of prominent neo Nazis among its board members. As I said before they campaigned hard against the civil rights movement during the 60's and 70's. More recently (among many other things) they funded an organization which published and distributed a book called The Camp of the Saints. Pretty much at the top of any serious white supremacist's reading list. No one in their right mind would call these people reputable, or believe the conclusions of any work they funded. Unless of course it was widely backed up by the research of others - which that paper you linked to isn't.

Large scale genetic studies of the human population have yielded some interesting results. For example, there actually was cross breeding between homo sapiens and neanderthals. Many of us have gene sequences thus inherited (although it's usually no more than a few percent). There is remarkably little variation from one human population to another though. The minor cosmetic differences between groups of people tend to involve only a handful of genes. No one has found a single sequence that appears in one ethnic group exclusively. The "races" are essentially a social creation based on those minor cosmetic differences. You won't see any sharp dividing lines in our DNA.

What is it with extremists and their terminology? Woke Church. Are you going to tell me about the Zionist Occupational Government too? How about the Deep State? Two more things that don't really exist. White supremacists do though, and the definition is pretty clear: if you believe caucasians are superior to other varieties of human, genetically, intellectually, or culturally, you qualify as one. Devil worshippers exist as well - although no one burns them at the stake these days, they're free to commune with Satan all they want. 😈

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

• "Talk about low IQs. That "data" has been refuted."

Nope, it hasn't. There has been lot of excuses: "privilege!", "abstract and mathematical test are white oriented!" (no kidding), "education!". Every excuse is failing. Reality is obstinate.

If somebody has any doubt, just wonder how Asians get much higher academic scores than Blacks in western countries, same education system, and here you can't use the 'whites are privileged' excuse.

• "The Pioneer Fund is a well established white nationalist organization"

Translation: they're sinners according to the Woke Church, which labels as 'nazi' or 'white supremacist' anybody who dares to investigate that topic without following the orders of this new Church. History repeats.

• " a number of prominent neo Nazis among its board members"

Translation: scientists who dare to investigate this topic without following the orders of the Woke Church.

• "they funded an organization which published and distributed a book called The Camp of the Saints. Pretty much at the top of any serious white supremacist's reading list."

It's just a novel that predictive the massive African immigration in Europe several decades ago. You know, making the correct prediction is nazi and supremacist! 😄

• "The "races" are essentially a social creation based on those minor cosmetic differences. You won't see any sharp dividing lines in our DNA"

You won't see any sharp dividing line between Europe and Asia. That doesn't mean that Europe and Asia doesn't exist.

• "White supremacists do though, and the definition is pretty clear: if you believe caucasians are superior to other varieties of human, genetically, intellectually, or culturally, you qualify as one."

Whatever, but it was you who talked about 'superiority'. I was talking about something very specific: intelligence. And that's not a "belief". It's a fact. Different ethnic groups have different average IQ. And intelligence and culture are fundamental for the advance and wealth of any country.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 4 years ago

Pretty much everything you said has been thoroughly debunked. There is no difference in intelligence between different ethnic groups. Doesn't exist. But there's no point in arguing with someone like you who's been indoctrinated, any more than it's a productive use of time trying to convince one of those climate change denying idiots that they're wrong. You can always find junk science that will support whatever position you want to take. Sorry your brain has been washed, dried, and folded, but that's not my problem.

Vaya con dios. Have a nice life. 🤪

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

Sure

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

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[–] RtlDeceptionist (29) 4 years ago

Buddy, for someone who is so against woke culture, you sure do post about it a lot. And almost nothing else.

Didn't think I'd have to say this again after the 90s ended, but GET A LIFE.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

Anything else you want to say beyond personal attacks? Something like an actual argument?

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[–] RtlDeceptionist (29) 4 years ago

'Get a life' is a personal attack now?

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

"'Get a life' is a personal attack now?"

... said by some anonymous guy in internet, suddenly storming in the middle of a debate with political hints?

Yeap. It is.

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[–] RtlDeceptionist (29) 4 years ago

Then by internet metrics that makes you a snowflake.

For your delicate sake I hope you never experience a genuine personal attack.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

"Then by internet metrics that makes you a snowflake"

And more insults and personal attacks...

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[–] RtlDeceptionist (29) 4 years ago

Repeating my goodwill for you: I hope you never experience a genuine personal attack.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

Repeating my goodwill for you: I hope you never experience a genuine personal attack.

Yeap, I agree yours was kinda meh... but don't feel bad for it. I'm sure you tried your best :-)

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[–] RtlDeceptionist (29) 4 years ago

My best is reserved for those deserving.

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[–] kuku (3510) 4 years ago

LOL

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