Anything that comes after is simply STINO - nothing else.
I liked the first two rebooted films only because ST had a history of alternate timelines and they left the original ones intact which was respectful. I also thought the writing and acting were good. Third film was horrible and the STD show is a mess.
Many of the franchises have a quality problem: ST, Star Wars, Terminator, Aliens. Fun while it lasted. Time to move on, I guess.
What about the Picard show????
shareStar Trek has sucked non stop for 20 years. Why do people think bringing back Picard is going to wind back the clock?
shareWhen did Star Trek "start sucking", TandyMan?
It's been a long road... The one-two punch of Enterprise and Nemesis.
shareI bet you never watched Enterprise. I bet you don't realise that half of Enterprise was actually pretty good. But Nemesis WAS complete crud, mainly for killing off Data, and having Tom Hardy as a weedy wimp who is meant to be Picard's clone.
Oh i've watched all of Enterprise a couple times. Aside from the stupid temporal war stuff, I enjoyed quite a bit of it. But none of it is "star trek". I'm sure the new show here is a good scifi show, but that doesn't make it "star trek" either. They're going to keep tinkering with the tone and vision of the series, and muddling up the history and races until it's just some generic sprawling scifi soup with a smorgasbord of continuity issues.
shareWell, I liked Seasons 3 and 4, and I do consider Enterprise to be true Star Trek, as it's made by the same people in the heyday of the show's popularity back in the 1990s, even if slightly afterwards.
No, it's Abrams Trek and fucking Discovery that is NOT Star Trek.
Enterprise for me is like they decided to make a new show using Star Trek elements. It works better viewed that way than taken as a canon prequel. Season 3 was simply amazing. But I felt the show started to unravel a bit in season 4, slipping into its old habits.
The last few seasons of Voyager are only watchable because of 7of9. Hell, TNG peaked in season 5. It's last season was a snoozefest. DS9 is definitely the best of the lot. Once it got going it stayed strong.
Anyhow, i'm the minority of Trek fans because eh... i'm pretty satisfied with what he had. All the movies and all the series. That's a lot of Star Trek man, enough to keep watching for the rest of my lifetime. I didn't need more. Wasn't asking for more.
There is no Nemesis on my shelf with the others. That movie doesn't exist in my home.
"Deep Space 9"--set in a 1980s shopping mall.
shareYou lost your sway with the DS9 promo-speak. That show can't hold a candle to TNG.
shareDidn't Nemesis feature Picard going full John McClane vest wearing, guns ablazing action hero at the end?
Surely you'd want to include THIS in your STINO listings...
Nemesis is bad, but it's from the same people and the same era. And Picard was always a stupid action hero in the movies, he was almost never like that in the TNG series proper.
Nemesis is the film that got me into TNG, DS9, and VOY. As a result, it will never be bad, it will always be the movie that got my full interest into Star Trek's 24th century series.
shareIn that case, I hope you thoroughly enjoyed what you saw of those TV series. As it is, Nemesis is a poor, poor introduction to the 90s era of Star Trek.
You are forgetting Axanar... Pity all we have is a 20-minute intro and soon to come 15 min episodes.
Regarding Discovery, A wise man best said. "I'm not saying Discovery is garbage, I'm saying Discovery should be thrown out AS garbage."