I notice the IMDb rating is dragged down by lots of 1* votes. US and 45+ groups give it low ratings.
¶ When it was announced that Star Trek was returning to television, long-time fans assumed the new show would tonally fall in line with the previous five Star Trek series, emphasizing exploration, adventure, and diplomacy. But after Star Trek: Discovery made its debut, it became clear that the show has more in common with Abrams’ films than the classic TV shows. Discovery’s first two episodes are an odd mix of flashy action sequences, odd character motivations, and a cynical tone that’s in direct opposition to the spirit of the series. Making matters worse, events on the show don’t seem to mesh with the 51-year old property’s established canon. Needless to say, fans aren’t impressed.
¶ With the social media hordes ready to storm CBS’ gates, Discovery’s producers have stepped in to reassure their audience that everything is going according to plan. In an article over at CNET, the show’s executive producers, Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman, address fan’s major concerns, chiefly Discovery’s bleak tone. ...
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"it became clear that the show has more in common with Abrams’ films than the classic TV shows."
This mess of a show has nothing to do with Abrams films. Abrams films didn't have the social commentary, but it was cheerier, had humor, the characters true to the originals personalities, similar storylines. At least the differences were explained by it being an altered timeline.
BTW, I read that the show was going to have good character development and stories. I don't see any of it.
Dragged down by a lot of 1 votes?...it has almost 5 thousand 10 * ratings that's more than the 1-6* ratings put together. If anything its being up voted and the score may higher than it should be.
Assuming they haven't changed things over the years since I first heard this, IMDB doesn't count all votes equally. One and ten star votes are both weighted lower than more middling votes are.
shareThis is true, but it does effect the overall number. Having this many 10 votes compared to the total amount of votes for 1-6 is going to have an effect on the total score even with the weighted scoring system. So even with the weighted system the score probably a little higher than it would otherwise be. Unfortunately when it comes to reviews, I find its best to disregard 10 star and 1 star reviews, because they often but not always have some kind of bias unrelated to the quality of the show. Usually reviews scored 3-8 are probably the closest your are going to get to honest user reviews.
shareI can understand why you might want to disregard 1/10 and 10/10 reviews, but I find the more imDb reviews I read, the less the rating seems to have to do with the content of the review. I keep seeing people talk about nothing but the good points but give a rating of 5 or 6, or complain about everything but still give 8/10. To me it's easier to just go ahead and get an idea what expectations people had before watching (ideally little to none) by skimming a little way into the review, and also to check how other people rated the review itself (unless the title in question is particularly controversial/polarizing).
shareI once read a Star Wars : The Force Awakens review where he didn't write a single thing good about the movie other than it was Star Wars and he gave it a 10. I think the worst crop of higher reviews I ran into, actually it had a ton garbage reviews in general, was the new Ghostbusters. I have never seen so many high reviews with so little supporting it for any other movie, the review would read like a 5-6 but end up with a 8-10. Again this film also had a lot of 1-2s from people who had not seen it.
shareInteresting. Thanks for the perspective. I did suspect-- and got a boost to that suspicion with ep 4's treatment of the tardigrade-- that we're heading for more familiar ST territory eventually, but that maybe it's going to be endgame with this series. For example there's no spore drive in TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY because it's clearly being shown to be inhumane. There's no cheerful exploration/diplomacy because they're dealing with severely divided Klingons who are mistrustful of each other and not all speaking with one voice. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if T'Kuvma's chosen successor is the one who ends up negotiating a nominal treaty or cease-fire of some form with the Federation. (Obviously there won't be a full peace agreement since there's further fighting with Klingons in TOS.) The only thing it looks like they'll have left to explain is why the heck they have the cool futuristic computer monitors from Minority Report. :')
shareIndeed, the Minority Report futuristic computers are only brought back around the 2380's, around the time of the Hobus Star going nova, as we see on the USS Enterprise-E in the Star Trek prequel comic: Countdown. There will have to be an explanation as to why the Minority Report style computers are missing for a large part of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY.
Personally I think the touchscreen interface we see in TNG, DS9, and VOY is far more productive and practical than a floating computer screen, which a user would always be distracted by things happening on the other side of the transparent screen.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Countdown
Ah ha, so those computers do have another appearance in ST canon? I've only watched the TV shows and some of the movies (but a long time ago), so I don't know what's in the books or comics. It's not hard to imagine that they already had this technology even during the era of Enterprise, but that it was deemed impractical (just as you described) for use on Star Fleet ships. They need to put that (or whatever the real explanation is) in the show though, and ideally explain why Discovery (and the Glenn, I'm assuming) in particular needed to have it. (I forget if the Shenzhou or Europa were shown to have those. If they did, then things really get messy.)
shareIf they expected patience they should not have sequestered most episodes behind a paywall. Nothing about the first one made me want to watch the rest, and certainly not pay for it.
shareThe US has a raw deal on this one with the CBS pay service. Most of the world can watch each ep of Discovery on Netflix as it comes out. The opening pair of eps were a little rocky but the third and fourth eps are pretty good, depending on what you're expecting.
shareFortunately we have BitTorrent in the US, which cuts the price down to $0.00 per episode. I think it's a great deal, personally. :)
shareSo they can make money and troll the boards to find out
what they did wrong so they can screw it up all over in a
different way next season ... no thanks.