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I don't think this is how metaphors and allegories work.


metaphors and allegories are either fantastical or they are realistic signifying something else, not both. Like why would there be a PHONE in the house?? And why are Adam and Eve so old? And if the house is planet earth, from where do people come from?

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We are not allowed to question it. We are supposed to blindly worship it and pat ourselves on the back as we smugly tell everyone how much we love it. Telling everyone you LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE it is the most important thing. Otherwise how can they know how hip and smart you are, right?

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true.

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Nice job agreeing with an obvious troll.

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Chill out nose. No one in this thread is a troll unless you are admitting you're one.

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Where were these rules for how metaphors and allegories work written down? Who decided that this is how fiction works? Was every writer in the world consulted? Some of them, maybe? Is there a contract you have to sign when you make a movie that says you agree with these rules?

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I am going by the definition of those words.

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Oh, really? Citation, please.

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It's on google or the dictionary.

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Google and the dictionary don't agree with you at all about the nature of either metaphor or allegory, which of course I knew already.

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I'm not here for your alternative facts.

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He is right though. You are confining the definition of these words on your own accord. Also, I don't think people go on to make something new in the hopes to satisfy definitions like this. Either what they did works, or it didn't work, and you get to argue why you think one way or the other. I think it's pretty boring to say that it is wrong because it doesn't fit a definition that you have.

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I am not, it's what the words mean. He said the movie was a metaphor and allegory but it fits neither of the definitions of those words, and even outside of it the film is shit, so.

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You are wrong. I would ask you to explicitly define these words and explain how the movie does not fit the definition, but someone already has done this work for you. Anyways, this stance you've taken is just ridiculous... I'd rather not continue this conversation.

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You are the one with alternative facts. Just prove me wrong, by your own standards: cite "google and the dictionary" saying exactly what you claimed in your opening post.

You can't. Because here is what the official dictionary definitions are, and they have nothing to do with the nonsense in your opening post in this thread:

Allegory

1. the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths or generalizations about human existence; also, an instance (as in a story or painting) of such expression.

2. a symbolic representation.

Metaphor

1. a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting on kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them (as in drowning in money); broadly: figurative language--compare simile

2. an object, activity, or idea treated as a metaphor.

Isn't it embarrassing being caught lying and BS'ing in a public space? Maybe you shouldn't do it.

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Burn....

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More fake news and alternative facts. The movie is still shit though.

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I took those definitions straight out of Merriam Webster, you knuckle-dragging idiot Trump troll.

Keep on embarrassing yourself in a public space. It's entertaining.

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So ask yourself how old the 'Adam' and 'Eve''s children were and you might answer your own question.

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