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"Will EASILY make over 600 million!"


How's that workin' for ya, bill brown?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Doesn't look like it's going to be that "easy", huh? It better explode in China!

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Well, let's see if Queen is adult enough to admit his mistake.

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Well, let's see if Queen is adult enough to admit his mistake.
That is hilarious!! You think Queen will be adult enough to admit a mistake without twisting an admission into knots of denial or deflection at his main foil??

Just hilarious!!

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Of course I don't. Just like I don't truly expect billbrown to post without his normal verbal diarrhea.

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Fair enough.

I tolerate Brown's verbosity and redundancy a heck of a lot more than Queen's deceit.

They are very much the "Odd Couple" and need each other nonetheless.

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I honestly read his first two sentences and scroll down.

If I wanted to hear endless details and minutia.....I'd listen to my girlfriend.

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I didn't say it wouldn't make 600 million, I said it wouldn't be "easy"...and it wasn't.

Look...600 million for a Marvel film should be a given at this point. The fact that it took it over 2 months to reach it is troubling.

Meanwhile, the hot buzz seems to be surrounding Aquaman and Shazam. There is a strong sense that the tables are turning.

Stay tuned.

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So.....not going to be an adult at all.

Just going to rationalize instead of saying you thought it would fail and were proven wrong.

How mature of you.


And I hope Aquaman and Shazam do well. Lord knows DC needs some more hits to wash the Snyder-stink of their franchises.

But why are you bringing them up here? Oh, that's right....DC Zealot.

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Did I not warn you that Queen would twist any admission into a zillion Knots?

Queen loves to genuflect to this false narrative of "I love Disney" but always praises or hypes anything but Disney.

Look...600 million for a Marvel film should be a given at this point. The fact that it took it over 2 months to reach it is troubling.

Meanwhile, the hot buzz seems to be surrounding Aquaman and Shazam. There is a strong sense that the tables are turning.

Stay tuned.
Here we go again with the "Wait", "Stay Tuned", "The Tables are Turning", "Hot Buzz"! Disney and Warner aren't even sitting at the same table. Disney is playing Chess and Warner is playing Checkers or Tiddly-Winks and the two aren't even playing against each other.

Do I think Aquaman and Shazam will perform better than Wonder Woman and or Suicide Squad? Nope. I think Aquaman and Shazam will perform quite well given the fan base and the character.

Do I want the two to fail? Nope. Queen on the other hand always predicts failure "is a comin" for Marvel and Disney at worse and just plain old ignores anything about Disney success otherwise.

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You want sad? I am a HUGE Captain Marvel (sorry, not calling him Shazam) fan and was displeased DC did not just call him Captain Thunder as he was called in the ashcan comic that Fawcett put out before settling on Whiz Comics and the Captain Marvel name and instead gave him the silly superhero name of Shazam (because we did not learn from Captain Marvel Jr who for decades was a hero who could not tell anyone his superhero name...now we did the same to the big guy). I loved his books and yet I find the trailer to be utter tripe. I WAS excited fro Shazam and fearful of Aquaman and now having seen the trailers my positions have switched.


That's right...I'm actually hoping for Aquaman.


Friggin' AQUAman.

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Sorry for your sadness and your comic loss.

I have a very limited childhood experience with Fawcett's Captain Marvel in print but did watch the Shazam! and Mighty Isis TV shows that ran on Saturday mornings. I really didn't pay that much attention to that whole Intellectual Property skirmish and absolutely bought into Marvel's Capt Marvel, nega-bands, Rick Jones and it was all good to me.

There aren't a whole lot of ways to go with Shazam that are going to be audience palatable. Which is why you WON'T see an AQUA-Lad any time soon given how DC has refashioned him for live action. I'll see Aquaman but I might not see Shazam. Shazam seems too aimed at kids, not at families and I remain to be proven wrong that DC even knows the difference.

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Too true.

BTW, I love me a good K-Tang!! As much as the next reader.

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More intellectual dishonesty, as well. Par for the course for someone who lies with every post.

Yes, it took two months to make it to $600 million... but only because of specific laws in China that delayed the release in the SECOND LARGEST MOVIE MARKET until two weeks ago! Other high grossing nations, like Japan, are only now joining the party, as well.

If the movie had been allowed to have had a global release date, or release dates within a week or two of each other, this movie would have soared to $600 million in half the time.

Surely you can see that. You claim to have experience in monitoring box office, but you always either miss or ignore MAJOR points when calculating totals, etc. This is no accident... it is you lying, obfuscating, and basically acting like a spoiled brat.

You have not one shred on integrity in your entire being.

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Yep and in Europe it was delayed until after the Wold Cup, stateside was Mid July , rest of Europe August

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I didn't say it wouldn't make 600 million, I said it wouldn't be "easy"...and it wasn't.

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Yes you did....

you 100% predicted in would "MAYBE break even at best" and predicted it would finish between 540 to 550 Million...

lol and No Queen It EASILY made to 600 Million +....thats why every box office site and analysts Predicted it nearly a month ago.

Every ONE BUT YOU knew we needed to wait for it to open in China.....but YOU Hilariously made failed thread after failed Thread talking about it underperforming, NOT matching AM1s domestic Gross, NOT Beating SOLO, NOT topping 600 Million.....annnnnnnnd they all failed!

The film Is Literally going to end up EXACTLY where Forbes, Boxofficemojo and I predicted A MONTH AGO....We all could easily forecast where AM2 was going to end up....and that was EASILY over 600 Million+

just because YOU were smart enough to understand it, Just because YOU Wrongly thought the film was LIMPING to 600 M + doesnt mean its true....

Everyone else clearly saw 600 M+ was GUARANTEED A MONTH AGO....



Meanwhile, the hot buzz seems to be surrounding Aquaman and Shazam. There is a strong sense that the tables are turning.

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this ^was just SAD even for your standards....I thought the days of "MCUs downfall is coming, the DCEU is going to dominate" were over

lol this was a very popular trolling tactic from 2013 to 2016 on the IMDB boards...but come March 25th 2016, That very popular trolling topic NEARLY died when the Trainwreck BvS was released and it left DC fans broken, beaten and embarrassed

Then IT FINALLY did die just 4 months later when WB released let another Trainwreck in Suicide Squad that caused DC fans to Literally GIVE UP on The DCEU beating The MCU...instead(and to their credit) the Majority of DC fans actually got angry, and demanded better DCEU films, lol They no longer had any hope of Marvel Studios downfall...they just wanted A DECENT DCEU film

but leave to you hilariously bring it back.....and my god what a time to bring it back....what a time to suggest the DCEU is gonna turn the tide and The MCU downfall is coming.....lol

yep, Marvel Studios is ONLY coming off the biggest year In Comic Book Movie history, producing 2 films that Opened over 200 Million, 1 That Broke the all time OW record, 1 that became the only CBM ever to gross over 2 Billion dollars and another that DESTROYED the DCEU's Wonder Woman film for The highest Grossing SOLO debut in CBM history, grossing 1.3 B+.....ya coming off a year where Marvel Studios made over 3.5 Billion dollars off 3 MCU films, A year where Marvel Studios made A Combined 1.4 Billion dollars in PROFIT from those 3 MCU films....Yep Its clear queen the Downfall is coming

but seriously, your smart right, you seem to think a Downfall is coming, theres got to be a reason for that, maybe the MCU just had a GOOD YEAR, and maybe the evidence of A Downfall coming is in the films before that ? Let check?

ok 2016....Captain America Civil War(Murder BvS in every way possible), criticall Loved over 90% on RT, Grosses 1.150 B+

Doctor Strange...Critically Loved Over 90% on RT, 640 Million + WW

2017.....GOTG2, THOR 3, Spider-Man Homecoming...ALL Critically Loved, ALL Over 90% on RT, ALL open over 115 Million +....ALL Top 300 Million domestically....ALL top 850 Million WW

lol ummmmmmmmm....I'm not seeing any evidence to support this Downfall coming queen

Instead I'm seeing somehow despite being 20 films deep The MCU is Growing in Success

This is not an exaggeration....The Last 3 years and last 8 MCU films is THE MOST Successful box office STREAK in HOLLYWOOD History....

meanwhile...the DCEU is coming off 4 out of 5 awful films, they are now on their 4th New BOSS to run the DCEU after the first 3 have been fired, There is no HINT at a Justice League sequel, Suicide Squad 2 is in developmen hell, Ben Affleck is Out as Batman, The New BOSS wants to go in A new direction that Is "LOW BUDGET elseworld films Like Todd Phillips JOKER movie...Joss Whedon was FIRED as a direct result of Patty Jenkins hating Justice League and His take on Wonder Woman, BOTH Shazam and Aquaman look like exact copies of the MCU films, filled with HUMOR and SHOCKINGLY COLORFUL...lol Wonder Woman is intentionally being set in 1984 to distant itself from the FAILED DCEU and Justice League characters, The Flash Is based on Flashpoint Yet all Justice League characters have been written out of the script again to distant itself from the FAILED JL film and FAILED DCEU...Henry Cavil is rumored to be out as Superman due to Contract problems...ya queen The Tide is turning...I'm sure WB has a real sense things are heading in a good direction

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the hot buzz seems to be surrounding Aquaman and Shazam.

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remember when you claimed The HYPE for Justice League was RED HOT coming off Wonder Woman and Predicted Justice League would easily Make 1 Billlion +

and this wasnt one time.....You commented at least 25 times, that Hype WAS RED HOT and Box Office would be RED HOT coming off Wonder Woman....

So please for everyones good, dont try and suggest where "Hype and Buzz" is for the DCEU and DCEU films....You have proven with 100% certainty you MAY BE the worst possible judge of where HYPE and BUZZ is for DCEU films with your past Justice League comments....

PS....

By The Tide Is turning do you mean The DCEU is gonna lose by another 1 BILLION + Next Year?

lol

Captain Marvel-500 to 750 Million
Avengers 4-1.7 to 2 Billion +
Spider-Man 2-850 to 1 Billion +

Total 2019 gross-3.050-3.750 B

Shazam-400 to 700 Million(IMO closer to 550 M)
Wonder Woman 2-750 to 900 Million(IMO 770 Million)
Aquman-550 to 800 Million(IMO closer to 700 Million)

Total-1.7 B To 2.250

The DCEU LOSES by BILLIONS for yet another YEAR

lol you didnt even think before spitting out "The Tide Turning"

lol You just embarrassingly suggest the DCEU was gonna have a Better year next year and TRULY never even thought for 1 second about what films were even coming out....

lol ya queen "Tide Is Turning" in year where Marvel Studios Is gonna release 3 MCU films that beat The 3 DCEU films by a combined 1 Billion + dollars....

but hey Maybe The Tide Is coming in 2020 and Beyond....Ya Maybe The MCU Downfall is coming then....OH Wait!

GOTG 3-850 to 1 B
Black Panther 2-900 to 1.3 B+
Doctor Strange 2-650 to 850 Million
Ant-Man 3-600 to 750 Million
Spider-Man 3-850 to 1 Billion +

On Then theres a decade on X-Men, Fantastic Four, Wolverine, Deadpool Reboots coming....

lol queen just take a moment in let the SHAME sink in because after this statement "Meanwhile, the hot buzz seems to be surrounding Aquaman and Shazam. There is a strong sense that the tables are turning" and your completely lack of putting any thought into it which just resulted in me Obliterating you.....YOU DESERVE this SHAME!

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Again...read 2 sentences and wrote the rest off.

Why is brevity your kryptonite???

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I didn't say it wouldn't make 600 million, I said it wouldn't be "easy"...and it wasn't.


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QueenFanUSA (1008) a month ago

I'm guessing it ends up in the 540-550 million range.


queen next time you intentionally try to LIE about a FAILED prediction...Maybe go back and delete that post where you made the FAILED prediction....

Yes queen YOU did not expect AM2 to make 600 Million....You hilariously made FAILED troll thread after Failed Troll thread for the last month repeating it....

every single thing you predicted about AM2 failed and AM2 Exceeded all your Predictions....

YOU Literally made 3 different troll threads claiming first "AM2 wont Top AM1 domestically"

Then came "It Wont Top SOLO domestically"

Then came "Its not going to top 600 Million...how you feel Bill brown"

ALL 3 drastically FAILED!

you just LITERALLY could not FAIL worse than you have on this board IF YOU INTENTIONALLY tried....

admit it....sometime you even Hate yourself right? I mean yes your trolling, your trying to say things that get people upset, But I got to believe you are even at the point where your now doing "Facepalms" and thinking "damn I cant believe I said that"....Or thinking "Jesus I really screwed up this time, this is embarrassing"

like you have to be ASHAMED on yourself....I do not see how anyone could fail this badly and not feel SHAME

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lol! You two have got to be the biggest retards on the internet... I mean seriously this is getting old, perhaps you and queen should set up a secret meeting place so you two can fuck each other and get it over with you'll both feel much better, cause I'm sensing some serious sexual tension between you guys.

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I’ve been saying this for months. It’s like “Who’s the Boss?” But not nearly as deep and intelligent...

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You two have got to be the biggest retards on the internet...

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says the Guy that isnt smart enough to simply hit ignore and never have to see or hear from either one of us again...

I always find it hilarious when someone replies to me to tell me my replies arent worth replying to or to tell Me I'm dumb or retarded...lol

because lets face it...you only reply with mean comments if The Post/poster in fact said something that bothered you....

You, Me, everyone reads dozen of messages a day on here, probably half of them we instantly disregard and never think about again because They are in FACT DUMB or NOT Worth responding to....

but theres always people out there that read something, and something in that post bothered them and they couldnt think of a good reply or comeback so they embarrassingly resort to ....."Your posts arent even worth reading, Your So dumb no body cares what you say"

Please do me a favor and PROVE you actually think I'm retarded and Block Me so you never have to read my RETARDED Posts again....









lol basically all you have to do to WIN is NOT REPLY back.....thus proving you BLOCKED me because you truly do think I'm retarded....

unfortunately I have a pretty strong feeling You'll reply back though proving I did in fact say something that angered you and you dont want me to get the last word....

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Yes...I said "I"m GUESSING it ends up with 540-550 million"...I didn't say there was no way it would hit 600 million.

I undershot with my guess.

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Just admit you were wrong. None of this matters since we don't have anything to lose or gain form the box office.

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My prediction was wrong.

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Thank you.

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See how easy that was back then.

Your error was in NOT following the data instead of following your hopes, dreams and wishes.

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The Avengers

= Worldwide: $23,384,939


The first Avengers movie only made $23m, that is really bad!

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[–] Bubbathegut (5267) 2 days ago
The Avengers

= Worldwide: $23,384,939


The first Avengers movie only made $23m, that is really bad!
A beloved British TV series adopted into a movie by Hollywood starring Sean, Uma, Ray and costing $60 Million in $1998 is your idea of a clever joke or a snarky play on social media???

Or..

You're playing Chief Insp. Jacques Clouseau and regaling us with your ability in being unfunny, clueless, unattached to reality, unusually non-self-aware, non-referential, willfully obtuse and just plain befuddled?

Which persona is it today, PresidentAckbar, Bubbathegut or Ackbarthehut?

So just why is it are you replying to me in order to bump some non-sensical QueenFanUsa thread anyway?

You two on more than speaking terms or something? Why not just reply to Queen directly?

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Sometimes perception is not what it seems.

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Some people see the cup as half empty. Some people see the cup as half full. I see the cup as too large.

George Carlin
Elaborate please? Just what perception are you talking about or referring to?

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A flute with no holes, is not a flute.

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A Gutless Bubba is an empty vessel.

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Yes...I said "I"m GUESSING it ends up with 540-550 million"...I didn't say there was no way it would hit 600 million.

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No you ONLY made a Callout Thread to me(You Enemy) asking "Hows your 600 Million + prediction working out"....if thats not a 100% statement that You were Confident the film WASNT GOING to hit 600 Million I dont know what is

lol queen I would like to say I respect that YOU now admitting You are wrong, but unfortunately I cant because even though you are admitting you are wrong, You ONLY admitting your wrong because YOUR backed into a corner....

I and Other have no problems admitting they wrong immediately or as soon as They realize it, example being I admitted I was wrong about SOLO and The Star Wars franchise the second Friday estimates came in.

You on the other, ONLY admit you are wrong to try and save face and LESSEN your embarrassment....You FIGHT IT and FIGHT IT and finally when the box office reaches a point where its undeniable, Then and ONLY then Will you admit you are wrong....

AM2 topping AM1 domestically wasnt enough for, even though you made a troll thread claiming AM2 wouldnt top AM1 domestically, YOU still fought it even though you were wrong

AM2 topping SOLO even though You Guaranteed AM2 WOULD NOT TOP SOLO domestically, wasnt enough for you to admit you were wrong, you fought it and fought it...

AM2 easily passing the 540 to 550 You predicted as a finally gross wasnt enough, nope you still created a troll thread 5 days before it was set to open in China....

You were wrong LITERALLY at ever point about AM2.....you TROLLED for 2 months....and Finally now that AM2's Box office is at a point where TROLLING on It would ONLY EMBARRASS YOU....you finally admit you are wrong...

You did the same thing With AIW, BB and Thor 3...

think about this..YOU actually TROLLED FOR an entire month on BOTH Black Panther and AIW....

the 2 biggest box office hits of the year, 2 films that will net Disney 700 M+ in Profit and 500 M+ in Profit....2 films that are TROLLPROOF......and YOU actually TROLLED for a month on both of these films before finally finally giving up....

so I'm sorry but I just cant not respect you admitting you were wrong, NOt when you are admitting you are wrong this way....

Its one thing to Admit your wrong immediately and admit your wrong because you KNOW YOU are in fact your wrong....

But You are ONLY Admitting you are wrong to LESSEN the embarrassment...You only admit you are wrong When The box office hits a Point where YOU KNOW YOU Will look EVEN WORSE if you continue trying to troll....

In the cases on Black Panther and Avengers, You knew you were wrong The second the films opened, Yet You shamelessly Trolled for another month before finally Tucking your tail and running away from the boards never to be seen again once the box office reached UNDENIABLE heights....


lol you were WRONG about AM2 literally from the second The film opened, Literally every step away the way....Yet you spent 2 months trolling, Made countless FAILED troll threads predicting Box office that ALL FAILED....and Now Once the film EASILY crosses 600 Million +, EASILY TOPS both AM1 and SOLO domestically, and EASILY Makes a 110 Million + profit(hilariously destroying your prediction that The film MAY AT Best BREAK even)......after all this....Now your admitting your wrong to try and save face....

lol While I do NOT respect you admitting your wrong after all this....I do LOVE IT....seeing You have to stoop to these levels makes me happy....

theres an almost Poetic Justice To it.....the fact that here at the end, Your ONLY way out, Your ONLY to lessen The embarrassment is to admit you are WRONG....Is Just Priceless....

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Every single prediction i saw you do was an undershoot or outright nonsense. You just suck at this.

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QueenFanUsa,

You don't remember guessing and predicting that Ant-Man and the Wasp wouldn't make over $600 Mil?

But after being hounded about that prediction you finally did the right thing.

You said you were wrong. No harm no foul.

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Worldwide: $622,466,250

its working out just fine.

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Domestic: $216,648,740 34.8%
Foreign: $406,025,399 65.2%

Worldwide: $622,674,139

That final tally for Ant-Man & The Wasp worked out pretty fine for Disney/Marvel. Why some had the need to troll on this film was surprisingly silly at best or based on insecurity over a film or studio that he/or she liked more.

For most fans both movie studios and comic book franchises are to be enjoyed and not pitted against each other.

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I find that a third of the posts on this forum is box office trolling, a third be necroing old IMDB posts and the rest is split between people spamming their review links and actual discussion.

Marvel and DC were rivals before either of use were born though, the antagonism is understandabe, if unwelcome.

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When I was a young reader of comics I actually began reading DC and after finding Marvel on the comic book stand I slowly stopped reading DC with any regularity. I never looked at the two companies as competitors or even felt that I had to pick a side.

Point being is that Marvel was then my favorite resource for Comics but I never disliked DC. The whole rivalry thing exploded with Social Media which is really unfortunate for a few as the larger narrative of entertainment rolls on with or without them and the rivalry.

As Avengers:Endgame nears it is just remarkable at what one company has done investing so much story telling (of course to make money) but to also entertain their fans, create new fans and really take seriously what they are accomplishing.

Where is the rivalry in that?

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you were not a standard fan back then nor now. Comic book fans always fought over the companies, including stuff like Dark Horse going independant and stuff.

Too bad marvel put all the talent into the movies now and the comic books seems to be written by mentally disabled. No wonder their sales are plummeting.

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I was indeed a standard fan, read the letters to the Editor (Marvel) and even had the letter printed. The fortunes of the Comic industry and their relative success has more to do with a glut of titles, cost of comics, availability only from designated shops, collectors and change. Kids started read less, a whole lot less.

Those fighting over characters, companies and brands weren't the majority of readers. Friendly rivalries are one thing and today's vitriolic rivalry is not the same.

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