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Strange Thing To Critize But The Thing About This Film...SPOILERS!!


Is that it's not a direct continuation of "Ant-Man" Again that's a strange thing to critique about this movie but it's the thing that most comes to mind. At the end of "Ant-Man" you see Hank show Hope the Wasp outfit so you expected a Marvel superhero vs villain type of movie, which this is NOT!.

I'd read reviews where it's been said this is a good family film & they're right, I can't say it's a superhero movie by any stretch of the imagination. Just Scott, Hope & Hank, running around doing things, but that's about it.

Thing is I thought it was going to be Ant-Man teaming up with the Wasp, become part of the Avengers (At least regarding her) & go on a ultra important mission for Tony, Cap, whoever & go on to carry on her mothers legacy. By having some time pass & having Scott estranged for at least a couple of years from Hope & Hank, made the whole thing feel discombobulated, at least I thought so. Basically this doesn't feel like a successor to "Ant-Man" in a lot of ways.

Again, not a true sequel, but that's just me.

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Ant Man and Wasp did team up and Hope carried on her mother's legacy. Also, there was indeed a super villain that they had to fight. I'm not sure what you were expecting.

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Agreeing with the AP's reply

I think it's MORE of a sequel than, say, "Captain America: Civil War" which was openly admitted to be "Avengers 2.5"

By scaling down the stakes (so to speak), they kept the focus on Scott and the Pyms. No need to involve the other Avengers or major villains, because the driving plot point was essentially a rescue mission

I think it's ALSO an important move, because if the movie succeeds financially, it could mean the MCU could successfully "scale down" the next phase of movies without hurting their bottom line

That's something I'd like to see, personally, because it gets harder and harder to relate to these characters as their challenges scale up.


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Feige said he wanted to scale things down in Phase 4. It makes sense. After going so big with Infinity War and Avengers 4, they'll need to go small.

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Agree completely.

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I'm not quite sure I follow what you're saying. Because it wasn't a straight-forward hero vs. villain film it isn't a true sequel? For me anyway, it is a true sequel because it picks up with the characters where we last saw them. Scott's on house arrest after his role in the Civil War, Hank and his daughter have been developing tech to access the Quantum Realm in an attempt to find Janet, which was where we left them in the first film. Hope has taken on the role of the Wasp, as we expected after the final scene of the first film. Overall, it felt very much like a true, direct, sequel to the previous film.

I get that you were expecting something else, but it almost feels to me like your expectation-- Ant-Man and the Wasp teaming up to go on a mission for the Avengers-- might have felt more like an Ant-Man/Avengers crossover to me than a sequel proper.

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What the previous posters said. (No point in making a counterargument here.) But in your defense, the rest of your criticisms re AM&TW are... strange indeed. :)

This movie took the right direction, as far as I see it. A proper (grade A) sequel that was always meant to be a complete standalone — apart from the mid-credits Infinity War cliffhanger.

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Well that's more rational than my biggest pet peeve in this movie, which is:

How the HELL did Michelle Pfeiffer find a subatomic plastic surgeon?

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And what did she eat? Or are her relative energy requirements at the quantum level so minute that she can go for decades between meals?

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And where did she find all that makeup?

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And how did he managed to spend two years living in San Francisco with no income, except whatever he got from telephoning into a marginal small business?

The cost of living there is insane right now, even Hank Pym had to find somewhere else to put his mansion!

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