What did they mean by Michael deserved to die? Why? Who deserves to get the crap beaten out of them by police? What was the point of that twist in the story line? Confused by the ending can anyone shed any light please:)
sharePlus, why did they cut off before Nick admitted his real name?
Is this really a show they were thinking of doing a 2nd series of? I thought it was a one-off story.
I also noticed it cut off before he said his real name, but I took it to mean that the name wasn't important, and what was important was that saying his real name would be the first step towards being honest with his family.
However many other parts confused me. I'm glad to see I'm not the only confused one here. We've been watching it faithfully since it started, and thought it would all come clear in the last episode. I don't even get who was on whose side and which ones were supposedly the goodies. And where Michael is concerned I feel I am missing something.
I normally pride myself on being a quite intelligent person, and can usually work out these complex situations, but lately some British drama has seemed quite impenetrable!
Fortunately we have recorded the series, because I think I will have to watch it again to fully understand it.
Can anyone shed any more light?
@Jenny-williams what other recent British drama bothered you?
I couldn't connect with The Five and everyone has been raving about it...
I found the story line convoluted, and contrived...
Really disappointed by Undercover, I thought it had a solid story line,acting etc and they've undone all of that in a single episode...
@ Tigerlele - Marcella is bothering me a lot. I'm having major trouble keeping track of all the threads. I'm about to watch the second last episode of that, and the last one is tomorrow night, so I will reserve judgement till after then, but it seems to me they are making it unnecessarily complicated.
Also having some difficulty with Hinterland for similar reasons, in relation to the back story that continues from one week to the next. It also seems very dark.
I was somewhat disappointed with the final episode of Home Fires but I am hoping that this will continue and make more sense next season. I did enjoy Home Fires mostly.
I loved Line of Duty, which, although complicated, had an ending which tied it all together, and Night Manager - great all the way through, and on a lighter note, I liked the Durrells too.
Started watching Peaky Blinders for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I feel I have missed the point somehow by not seeing the earlier series. At the moment I am not enjoying it - it seems complicated and rather nasty - mainly with nasty people doing nasty things to each other.
I have really enjoyed some shows that were very complicated, but they came together well at the end, so it's not that I'm lacking in understanding. Marchlands was one of those that I enjoyed.
I agree what the hell was the previous episodes about !! So Michael killed the guy in America ...why? ...how did it come about ? ..... why did he deserve to die? .... why did they go to great lengths to cover up his death in custody?? Made no sense a real let down. Waited two weeks for the finale and they hit you with that rubbish it's like the writer got lazy and just thought oh sod it that will do
sharePerhaps I misheard but I don't think they said that Michael deserved to die... The way I heard it the mayor (of Baton Rouge) deserved to die and it was Michael not Rudy who had killed him.
shareFor me there was too long a break between episodes due to BAFTA adwards.The thing I couldn't understand is how could you forgive someone that has lied to you the whole time you've known them,over 20 years. Also didn't Maya have a baby? Or did I imagine that, were did it go?
shareThey said at the hopsital Michael deserved to die
shareNo the "he" that deserved to die was the mayor (of Baton Rouge?). It was Michael Atwe that killed the mayor. So the whole killing of MA and the execution of Rudy was probably to keep everything quiet. Now, the handlers connection with the paedophile squad might suggest that the mayor deserved to die for a related crime?
shareI thought that too. I'm wondering if Antwi was an undercover policeman and Rudy had to be framed or all the sordid details would come out. The Scotsman was some kind of MI5/6 bod, so he was bound to be immune from prosecution.
shareYou are correct. He said that The Mayor deserved to die and that Micheal, not Rudy had killed him (yet Rudy said he would never give up the name of the killer because that person would fall into the hands of American justice - yet, Micheal had been dead for decades). I suspect that the confessions concerning the department that the handler, Dominic Carter had run were connected to who the Mayor of Baton Rouge really was and the things with which he (the mayor) was involved. Perhaps, he ran a child procurement operation, supplying child sex slaves around the world - "The Woolworths of Depravity." The only thing that clouds this theory was the big meeting between Nick, The Scotsman, Robert Greenlaw and John Halliday when they went on and on about the status quo, keeping police who had made small mistakes out of jail, and making the world a safer place. Perhaps, Micheal was sent to kill the Mayor and Micheal's death was mistakenly caused by racist cops who held him down. It seems as if we have just been given the first layer of the onion, that there is a much deeper scandal. Why were Greenlaw and Halliday being arrested in the end?
shareMy rating went from a 9 down to a 1 in the last 10 minutes. No sense whatsoever in the ending and the son turning up seconds before nick was about to be shot closely followed by 3 police cars in the middle of a forest was ludicrous.
share'My rating went from a 9 down to a 1 in the last 10 minutes.'
Cannot blame you it was so badly done, we were left confused.
The best I can make out, mysterious Scotsman ordered Michael Antwi to kill the Mayor of Baton Rouge and frame Rudy for it.
Mysterious Scotsman then found a way to get rid of Antwi and keep the cover up going but somehow he is allowed to get away by killing other innocent people, people who are actually police officers.
It's that man again!!
To Prismark 10, if that is the case (and it makes a lot of sense that it is) does this mean that for the last 20 years, Nick has been living a lie, deceiving and spying on his wife, and letting people die, all for the wrong side? Did he realise this at the end, and try to put things right by setting up his own murder to reveal the truth?
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I think Nick realised eventually it was all for nothing. The fact that they bumped off Abigail and no one was interested in investigating the killing was the final straw it seems.
He wanted to expose the mystery scotsman at the end but again he somehow walked free. I like to think the veteran journalist would sell the pictures to a newspaper outside the UK and expose him.
It's that man again!!
Arrrgh!!!! Can I ask in a bizzare twist is Nick Michael?
Don't be late, don't hesitate, this dream can pass just as fast as lightning.
My take, for what it's worth, is that Nick's real name is Antwi and he is Michael's brother and is so ashamed that he couldn't face Maya again and was prepared to get himself killed. Having just written that I'm not sure I believe it! Unless we get series 2 I don't suppose we shall ever know!
shareYes, wonder whether there will be another series. Also one other thing puzzling me why shoot Dan and not Nick?
Don't be late, don't hesitate, this dream can pass just as fast as lightning.
Watched the final episode hoping everything will fall into place, how wrong I was. By the final episode I was confused.
It was Michael who killed the mayor not Rudy. Why all the cloak and dagger about Maya finding out?
Dan’s “girlfriend” was a spy, well you knew that straight away from the accidentally meeting in the park. Who was she really taking those camera shots for and what was she snapping away at?
The journalist Alex who was taking all those “event” pictures at the park, will he expose Paul? As no one apart from Nick and Julia knew he was there?
Why did Nick tell Dan what he was doing (I knew it was a trap for the “Girlfriend”)? Surely he would know his own son that Dan would tell the rest of the family?
Dominic talking to Nick about when he was involved in the paedophile undercover programme. What was the relevance of this?
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