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I figured out what is wrong with the movie.


There is zero foreshadowing. That might be a slight bit of hyperbole but pretty on the nose. The movie has pacing problems when it come to delivering the comedy. Somewhere in here though is a really good movie. The script isn't that bad it needs a small rewrite and better execution of the comedy beats. The movie also suffers from having seen the "making of" before the movie. Kind of kills the suspension of disbelief.

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>The movie also suffers from having seen the "making of" before the movie.

Right, but then the movie would never have been made without Project Green Light. Jason could have pitched this for the next 20 years and nobody would have picked it up.

>Somewhere is here though is a really good movie.

Right again. The movie suffered from the tight shooting schedule, but that was made exponentially worse by Jason's indecision.

It definitely needed a major rewrite. The interaction between the brothers was good, too bad for Mann/Jones that much of their dialogue was improvised. It was the best part. The story needed help, the comedy wasn't funny enough and the dark drama lack depth and grounding in the story. [SPOILER ALERT] There's not enough substance to give a good rational why the senator, Edward, blows up. The ending where the daughter, Fiona, now thinks she has her father over a barrel and she now calls the shots is muddled, as was the rest of the ending.

I thought the actors were all good, and they gave good performances. The look of the film was good, even though the problems with lighting and time of day as seen on PGL were clearly evident. The basic premise of the film was good, it just needed someone, like the Farrelly brothers (who were chased off the set), to dig out the good stuff and make it much better film.

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The two biggest problems with the movie wre that you needed more character moments to understand the characters better, which would've made the movie less confusing and make the plot stronger. Second, it needed to be funnier. Jason has no concept of comedy. He relied on the actors improvising to make scenes funnier.

A lot of the problems come from bad writing. The movie should've started with more of a set up, to get to know the characters. Jumping right into the party wasn't a good idea. It also wasn't a good idea to have the movie set on the eve of the wedding. It should've been an engagement party. Having it set the night before the wedding is cliche and you end up with everything (like the father's background check on Charles) being too convenient. Also Leonard just showing up wasn't a good mood. A scene showing him before the party would've been better. It also would've made more of an impact when he shows up.

I've only seen the movie once and don't plan on watching it again, but I was confused a bit by Leonard and Williams's relationship. I think if you explained that more, the movie would've been better. Also William/Charles being a con man who was planning on marrying into the family, to steal their money wasn't done well either. What I would've done is make William and Leonard partners. They came up with the grift. William (the good looking, suave one) worked his magic to get Fiona to marry him, while Leonard is stuck living in a dump, pulling nickle and dime stuff, making ends meet and maybe owing a bad man some money. William falls for Fiona and tells Leonard that the con is off. So Leonard shows up to tbe party, hoping he can convince William to go through with the plan or he will wreck everything. You also need to set up that Bruce Davidson is a bad, dangerous man (which didn't come through enough) who maybe also has done uis fair share of screwing people over. So you go from there. I also think having Leonard walk away with some money could be a nice ending.

I just felt too much lf the movie was wasted dialogue that went on and on, when you could've condensed many scenes down in the script, which would've allowed for a few extra scenes to make the story and characters deeper.

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>>The two biggest problems with the movie wre that you needed more character moments to understand the characters better, which would've made the movie less confusing and make the plot stronger.<<

completely agree.

what the OP calls "zero foreshadowing," is just another way to say, not enuf detail/background in the writing, or clear scenes w/the diff characters that show us something about their past (or future?)

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