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Reasons the film didn't succeed:

posted 8 years ago by smokeysmokeysmokey
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1. The schedule was to accommodate the show not a film. These guys could have worked on this script for another year at virtually no additional cost to the production. There was no sense on rushing them to finish the script. Well, there wouldn't be a show if that happened then would there? What would the American TV consumer watch then?

2. Mann didn't DIRECT the short of the same name. An imported point. I wouldn't judge Mann based on this film from the show, but the short of the same name was well directed by someone other than him. It is clear however though than given the right circumstance Mann can direct from the other short he directed to win the competition. But that was under 10 minutes and he was given a month to make it. This was a full length film and he got just over 20 days. He works slowly and needs to find a way of working within the system that suits him. Perhaps he can't work within Hollywood.

3. Ed Weeks: nothing against him, but he was miss-cast. The fellow who played his part in the short worked better in the role.

4. Photography was bland. Turned out 'film' did absolutely nothing for the film. I was with Mann all the way, but in the end it didn't matter at all.

[–] theunopeneddoor-697-442391 8 years ago

1. Schedule was normal for a film of it's budget. Besides Mann had the opportunity for Extra days and didn't take them.

2. Pretty irrelevant. Things like that happen all the time.

3. He wasn't miscast, the part was badly written.

4. Agreed, though I was never with Mann. Film is inferior to digital, I'm sorry to say. For one thing you can't see what film will look like while you can on digital. For another rhing it's easier to fix digital problems over film. For another digital is cheaper. For another you can exactly replicate the look of film with digital (forget what they teach in film school Mann!) while you can;t do the opposite. I can't for the life of me see why people choose to shoot on film anymore. It doesn't make any sense to shoot on film for a movie that will be broadcast on TV anyway, because it will look like digital over TV screens regardless.

NONE of those things matter though. What matters is the script was awful. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if everything else is 100% perfect, if the script is bad the film will be bad.

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[–] smokeysmokeysmokey 8 years ago

We'll agree to disagree on everything so. Bags white, you can have black.

[–] theunopeneddoor-697-442391 8 years ago

As someone who has worked on film I can tell you 20 days is VERY normal.

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[–] smokeysmokeysmokey 8 years ago

The schedule wasn't the problem. Here's 10 days to rewrite your script is the problem. Well one of many. If there was no reality show they could have sent them both off for months to write it until it was good to a cost of mere thousands. The script was the number one issue with the film. But you'll disagree I'm sure, and that's ok.

[–] theunopeneddoor-697-442391 8 years ago

Oh well that I agree with that.

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[–] smokeysmokeysmokey 8 years ago

Good.

[–] CyberZeus67 8 years ago

Ok Effie

[–] TheQuietStorm 8 years ago

I agree with everything you said.

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[–] bokonon82 8 years ago

I love how he produced this turd after he was openly criticizing the script that the Farrelly brothers wrote in the friggin interview at the start of the show.

[–] unclemike1 8 years ago

Reasons the film didn't succeed:

1. Jason Mann

...and that's about it.

[–] TheQuietStorm 8 years ago

^^^ This.

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[–] Zuider_Zee 8 years ago

5. It was a comedy without one laugh.

[–] smokeysmokeysmokey 8 years ago

Very true.

[–] CyberZeus67 8 years ago

You missed #5 - EFFIE BROWN

[–] P-K-One 8 years ago

But the problem with the small timeframe to rewrite the script was a direct consequence of Mann's opposition to making the movie he was hired for. There was a script that was finished and waiting. He just refused to do that one. So there is no one to blame but him.

Also, can I take this opportunity to point out that Mann complained that he did not want to do the other script because broad comedy was not his thing? And then they make a movie about *beep* on Bentleys and guys threatening to make other guys eat each other's asses? This is the type of crap where "Scary movie" tells you to have some class.

[–] smokeysmokeysmokey 8 years ago

Good point. We'll never know I guess.

[–] tmanqz 8 years ago

It simply is just bad writing...how stupid id Effy..the director and anyone who thought this was a good script.

[–] smokeysmokeysmokey 8 years ago

Yeah.