I used to think that working in the 9 to 5 world was the key to adulthood and happiness and now I work outside of it and am happier freelance (although arguably making less money). So this episode was extra effective for me.
What do you all think of some of the points he brings up?
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People used to work a whole lot more hours. Like up to 16 hours a day.
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I didn't see the episode yet, but I'll check it out.
I was just wondering the question about sharing your salary. When it first aired I asked my husband if he talks about salary with people at work and he said "no". However, he did say he has a few people he will tell if he gets a bonus or a raise and vice versa.
My husband boss did tell him once that my husband makes more then he does and has more vacation. That must be awkward.
If everyone knew what everyone made it would be chaos. Saying otherwsie is the silliest point made on this show
shareSounds like you missed the point completely. Yes, it would be chaos, precisely because so many people are getting screwed.
No company, anywhere, ever, is going to pay you MORE than what you're worth. You can believe 100% that if they pay you $100,000 a year, they are making a profit on your output.
But they WILL underpay you as much as they can get away with. And this is the problem.
You could have two employees doing the exact same job with a $15,000 difference. Maybe the lower-paid employee is not a very good negotiator. Maybe they have three kids to support and couldn't take the chance of losing the job offer by asking for too much. Maybe a lot of things. But regardless, he/she is being taken advantage of and that's why there'd by chaos.
Instead, everyone's salary should be public record. Clerks make $X, managers make $Y and supervisors make $Z. There's no reason for any of it to be a secret except for the fact that it helps give all the power to the company to take advantage of people.
Making you feel like it's taboo to talk about is exactly what they want. It helps them keep ripping everyone off more easily and it doesn't help ANYONE. If you make more than your co-worker because you negotiated harder, congratulations, but you aren't getting more because it's a secret. The only consequence is that your co-worker is getting less than he/she deserves. Keeping it secret hurts many and helps no one.
strongly disagree
shareI wonder more what people living in other parts of the world think about this episode.
Since I live in a developing country with high unemployment rates, employers get to dictate work hours completely, and it always comes closer to around 55 work hours per week for the average middle-class employee (not counting all the additional work-from-home we have to do at night and on Sunday ... Saturday is normally a working day). It sucks, and no, we are not doing better in a typical work week than workers in other countries, last I checked. The ones in the lower-income group have it much worse and aren't paid a decent enough wage to even prevent their children from falling prey to severe malnutrition, let alone actually being able to buy a burger at McDonald's every now and then. And the glass ceiling is also very, very real for certain groups in my country, especially the women, on whose marginalisation development scholars are writing lengthy research papers at present.
On a related note, get your act together, America! You guys don't have to suffer the way we do, at least. Vote for Bernie Sanders.
There is no such thing as a "9-5' anymore. Any job I've ever worked was either 8-5, 9-6 (Which I currently work) or one time I worked 10-7. That's also how they get you. Make you be there for 9 hours with an unpaid hour lunch. You have no choice in that. I'd personally rather work 9-5 with a half hour lunch (paid or unpaid). Of course they would make that half hour unpaid though.
It's such BS. I just hope sooner than later I figure out what I really want to do that doesn't involve sitting at a desk for 9 hours! (And, God forbid, make a living wage!!)
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expanding 9-5 to 9-6 (or 8-5) is mostly a post 2008 recession thing. I never had one before and nothing else since (and no of others who can say the same)
yup big business snuck that by everyone and they arent giving it back
I make so much more money working as a freelancer lol. Come on man, you can do it. :)
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This is so far the only episode where I actually used information from the show. I was a misclassified employee (an "independent contractor") yet I had to be there at a dictated time and they strung me along. I was not a temp, I was hired directly. After I left there I blew the whistle on them.
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I just wish he had brought up how easy it is for companies to fire people.
Anyway, one of the points he brought up was useful to me: about misclassification of employees. I actually turned in a company that I was working for because they strung me along as an independent contractor
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