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Ends way too unresolved. [No spoilers]


Ending this open ended and unfinished pisses me off. Network shows pull this crap, but cable shows should wrap up more. I don't mind the odd unfinished plot or even the odd unknown. But this ends like there is still another episode or two left.

Cheap writing. I enjoyed this, but had I known it ends with nothing wrapped up I would have passed until season 2 was up. If there is even a season 2!

Cliffhangers are for lame watered down network shows..... Pretty unhappy, especially if they never make another season.

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You finished throwing your tantrum?

I think the ending was fine. The only problem was their final plan being "half-explained". I think it just went pear-shaped after Rask was kidnapped.

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There was not an ending, so thinking it was fine doesn't make you smart sport. This wasn't the odd open ended plot, nothing was wrapped up. Nothing. When you watch Breaking Bad, be sure to not watch the last episode..... Makes it better not knowing anything....

The only problem was their final plan being "half-explained"
Put down the bloody phone when you watch a show if you are going to attempt to argue. Explained 100% perfectly. Nothing ambiguous, they literally used words to explain what they wanted


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Sure, they used words to explain what they wanted. It wasn't really clear how they expected Rask to pull it off though, that was just hand waved away with "we want you to take down Alex without implicating us". In that sense the final plan felt very much half baked.

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Put down the bloody phone when you watch a show if you are going to attempt to argue. Explained 100% perfectly. Nothing ambiguous, they literally used words to explain what they wanted


what? there was nothing explaint in the scean where the 3 blackmail the FBI guy.
they just said: make this Alex issue go away.

what exactly did the startup trio ask FBI Phil Rask to do? They know that he is a dirty cop and that he ripped off millions and that the potentially murdered his collegue. They dont know that he is actually broke and on the verge of suicide.
Blackmailing him seems like a very risky plan.
but really, did they ask him to set up a real FBI case against Alex and his mob connections (which will takes a very long time) or did they just straight up ask him to rip-off Alex for cash?

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there was nothing explaint in the scean where the 3 blackmail the FBI guy
They literally said what they wanted. I mean he even asked one way, and they replied in exact clarity that they wanted it done legally... There is zero reason to have this argument.

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It's a cliffhanger not an ending. I just didn't buy the Russian drive-by, that felt out of character. I'm sure if we ever get a second season it would be explained better but until then, just weak.

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It's a cliffhanger not an ending
Like I said, cheap stunt normally used for watered down network shows. And having nothing resolved, at all, is way more than a cliffhanger.
if we ever get a second season
Makes it even weaker then doesn't it.

Cable shows are better than this. Like I said, the odd open end is ok, this was basically "mid season"

If you guys are ok with pretty much half a story, what is the point??



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I disagree. Ending assumes a second season, as writers often do. At the time it was being produced they would have information to the contrary. Decisions like that are not typically made until well after the season airs. There nothing cheap about it. Wrapping this up in a nice pretty bow in last episode would have been the shallow move of a tame network playing to the sheep.

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Wrapping this up in a nice pretty bow
Not even remotely what I said. Open ends are good and needed. But leaving every single plot arc open is no good. SOME wrap ups are needed.

The Wire for example was perfect how they ended every single season. Most story lines wrapped up while at the very same time leaving a ton of room to keep moving forward. Every single seasons last episode could have been a series end as well as a great setup for the next season

To be blunt, it's like talking to a brick wall with you guys. No way you actually think that was a good way to end a season. Are you part of the production or something? Or just the type that watches TV with phone in hand and it's all just background noise to you anyway?

Cliffhangers are for simple people that watch network junk like Castle.

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You could be more constructive by identifying the arcs that were not satisfactorily closed, since you haven't actually specified anything. Might be part of the reason nobody is able to engage constructively with you.

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so this is how you respond when people do not agree with you? Haven't we had enough of this behavior throughout the election season? Like others, I disagree with you. This does not make my view or taste any less than yours. I happen to think I have very good taste - I know a good show from a bad one ... a good film from a bad one. Of course, just about anyone would believe that about their own taste. This is the primary reason each of our views is relevant. I get it ... you did not like the season ender. It did not live up to your expectations of either tying up neatly or leaving off in a way you feel acceptable. I happen to disagree. And I did not watch this on my phone, nor am I from the generation in which I would even want to do that. If I like something - I want the video and audio to be as good as possible and I want to provide my undivided attention. I did that with this show and thoroughly enjoyed it ... right up to and including the season end. I am looking forward to another season. If this doesn't work for you ... watch something else. But don't insult the people that did enjoy it.

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Go away. This is not about tastes. If you think the show wrapped up well, you are an idiot. Full stop.

I'm done with this topic....

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Have any of you considered that freemans character was kidnapped after the funeral and all that, and that they were aware that the fbi guy would blackmail him for money and it's all part of a bigger plan...

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I feel your pain.

It didn't come across as cheaply written though, I thought it was intelligently done in many way and was left generally satisfied...as long as there's a second season! If there isn't then my judgement would go right down, more equal to yours probably.

You're right, that wasn't a finale, that was a penultimate episode.

I guess funding was capped or they are wanting reactions like this from enough people so that a second season is commissioned based on public appeal. They hooked me from ep3 and I was fully vested.

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Cliffhangers can be done well if they resolve the majority or at least 50% of the threads of the season, then open up new story paths for the finale.

I found the finale to be shoddy because the there was not even a hint of any resolution of the main thread of the story which was pretty much a continual factor with each and every episode.

This seemed more like it should have been the second last episode with the finale showing some significant plot development towards at least resolving their main story thread.

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This seemed more like it should have been the second last episode
For sure.
was not even a hint of any resolution of the main thread
Exactly my beef. Surprised so many pushing back like it's all fine. Hard pressed actually to think of any show that ended so incomplete. And again, some twit will pop in and say "everything doesn't need to be wrapped up in a tidy bow", to be sure.

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So....may be going out on a limb here, but...I'm guessing you don't like the show?

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I'm guessing you don't like the show?
No, it was great. Not sure how hard it is to understand the beef.... They do not resolve anything!

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I feel a better place to end is when Rask walks in to meet the 3. Have him walk in and sit down and end it there.

This leaves things open enough for a second season, but also gives a fairly satisfying ending to the first - they may be down, but they are not out, and have formed new alliances.

With regard to the plan, they made it clear they wanted the thing handled legally. However, I can't help wonder if their intention was to say that, but in the expectation that Rask will go off and do his thing anyway.

The driveby, I think, was a hit, specifically aimed at Izzy, the only one with a claim on the software, and obviously the hacker who obtained Rask's information. But they got the sister instead.

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Ending this open ended and unfinished pisses me off. Network shows pull this crap, but cable shows should wrap up more. I don't mind the odd unfinished plot or even the odd unknown. But this ends like there is still another episode or two left.

Cheap writing. I enjoyed this, but had I known it ends with nothing wrapped up I would have passed until season 2 was up. If there is even a season 2!

Cliffhangers are for lame watered down network shows..... Pretty unhappy, especially if they never make another season.


Thank you for your post.
I was 50/50 if I'm gonna watch it. Now that I know that there is no conclusion I rather skip it.

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