So a deaf woman, living alone, in the middle of the woods
You think someone would've convinced her that she needed to own a gun.
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LOL I said the same thing. What kind of house has the power box OUTSIDE?
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Well usually in real life things like this don't happen. I don't go camping in the woods and think "wow some psycho killer might attack me! Better bring a gun". It's not how most people think.
shareYeah, there's a big difference between going on vacation to the woods, and actually living in the woods.
shareSame principal though. If you want to live in the woods you'd naturally expect quiet. You don't naturally think "oh I need a gun in case some forest-dwelling psycho wants to kill me". Besides she's probably never shot a gun in her entire life (evident by the fact that she was only able to shoot him in the arm with the crossbow) so it wouldn't do much good anyways. She went into the woods to stay away from people so normally she expected no one besides her neighbors to be around.
shareHonestly anyone living alone in an isolated like that should own a gun or have some other way to protect themselves.
shareShe's obviously never used a gun before so having a gun would do more harm than good for her. There's no point in having a gun if you don't know how to use it, especially if you're a deaf writer who basically has no need for a gun of any kind. Besides, it's a movie, and you know damn well that there would be no movie if she just had a gun lying around somewhere. I for one am not that paranoid that I'd think I'd need a gun with me if I wanted to live in the woods.
shareYou must be American. People all over the world live happily in some isolation without guns. We're not all afraid of our neighbours.
shareI don't know, I've spent a lot of time watching true crime shows and reading about missing people, so if I were to go camping in the woods, the first thing I would think is, "How do I avoid getting murdered?" And if I'm living in a house in the woods, I'm gonna make damn sure I have a lot of safety features in place.
shareOkay, well she probably doesn't watch true crime shows or read about missing persons all the time. She didn't even have a TV in her house, and she's a writer so she probably barely had time to leisure around reading about missing people. Why would she want to anyways?? Besides, she did say Isolation happened to her, which means she had to deal with a bunch of jerks in the outside world teasing her for being deaf. Which is why she decided to live alone. I watch horror movies all the time and I can say without a doubt that no, I would not buy a gun if I lived in the woods alone. Because it would cause more harm to me than good. Which would most likely be the case with her as well.
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'Murica in a nutshell
shareThe thing about guns is that you are much more likely to injure or kill yourself or your friend than a robber or a murderer. So it solves nothing. Had she had a gun he would have done something else instead and probably killed her off even faster with fire or his own gun.
shareSigh. Another "fake news" huh.
You would think that in this day and age, people would be scared of getting called out for such blatant deception.
Especially, one that has been debunked again and again. Someone within this very forum posted a CDC article debunking it.
I have not seen any of that "debunking".
shareSo... there is nothing you care to confess then?
You stand fully behind the spirit and letter of your statistics? Yup?
That being the case, why don't you post your source? I want to expose you with your very own source. I am sure that otherwise you may well claim that my source is not what you were thinking of.
I think that people tend to be a little confused about the statistics.
Yes, if you own a gun you are more likely to kill yourself or a friend/family member than you are to kill an intruder/hostile.
But it is important to point out that the "kill yourself" part of the statistic includes people who intentionally kill themselves--in other word, suicides. And the killing a family member part refers more to homicide than to accidental discharges.
You have to be careful with information from the CDC, because politicians passed the Dickey Ammendment back in 1996 which essentially defunded any CDC research into gun violence. So they can report on statistics (such as number of deaths), but they aren't allowed to do any studies because that would be considered advocating for gun control. It would be nice if the pro-gun crowd could embrace some real research, because some of it would probably support a lot of what they're already saying.
Guns are effective weapons, which is why having one in your house increases the odds that you will either kill yourself with one or be killed by one. A student where I teach accidentally shot his twin brother in the face because they were playing around with a gun. My co-worker's husband was unloading a gun when it accidentally discharged and the bullet went through their closet wall and into their son's room (who was fortunately not in the room at the time). Consider the difference in damage done when someone goes on a rampage with a gun as opposed to a knife or other weapon. Guns make killing easy--whether it is yourself or someone else. This is why some people want them around (because it levels the playing field between a granny and some young 20-something burglar) and why others don't want them anywhere near them. I understand people in the former camp, but I fall into the latter.
I have no inherent issue with people like you who support gun control. So long as you accept that there are tradeoffs as with almost any policy debate.
My issue is with the idiot above that apparently knowingly chose to post such "fake" statistics. Either he is appallingly ignorant or he did it deliberately.
Let's see his response.
Well, he said:
you are much more likely to injure or kill yourself or your friend than a robber or a murderer.
It is probably statistically true that you are more likely to commit suicide, murder someone else (family/friend), or accidentally injure yourself/someone else than you are to use your gun in self defense against an intruder.
I spent the last ten years in an area with heavy gun ownership. I knew of one person in my immediate vicinity who had used a gun in self-defense (and I use the term loosely--he fired his gun at some people who were stealing his dog). By contrast there were some pretty awful murders and several incidents of accidental injury (including several children coming across unsecured weapons).
His statistics aren't fake (people are so quick to throw out the word "fake" these days), but I think it's possible that he doesn't understand that when the CDC says "kill/injure yourself" they are including in that statistic the number of people who intentionally shoot themselves in suicide attempts. The odds that you'll trip over your own feet while carrying a loaded gun and put a hole in yourself are pretty low. share
I completely agree, hence "fake" instead of without quotation marks. I believe in the truth, unlike him.
Your suggestion is basically the same as mine, namely that he is appallingly ignorant. This is not a good thing.
he is appallingly ignorant
I don't find his statement appallingly ignorant.
If, for example, someone (or a person living in their same household) suffers from depression, alcoholism, or any of several health/emotional/mental issues, the increased risk of a completed suicide might be a really good reason not to have guns around. Any time a gun is involved with intentional wounding (whether wounding yourself or someone else), the odds of it actually ending up being fatal are much higher.
If I lived with a spouse who had a drinking problem, if I suffered bouts of suicidal ideation, or even if I just lived with someone who lacked common sense, I would definitely not want a gun in my house.
Unless the poster comes back to clarify his meaning, we can't know if he's considering the increased risk of a completed suicide as a factor in saying why he wouldn't want a gun around, or if he thought that "kill yourself" referred to accidentally discharging a weapon. share
I think we both know very well why he crawled off in shame and not returned...
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