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Black 'High Yellow' Tulup


Not trying to sound racist but was there s real reason ended up being a black "High Yellow" person in the TV series when in fact she is a white woman in the comics?
Did they have to hire a black actress because of the whole "Affirmative Action" thing? If so whatever that is fine I guess because I have to admit this "High Yellow" black actress can definitely hold her own as the character of Tulip.
I am just curious is all...

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Meant to type "Tulip" in the subject sorry auto correct screwed with me again.

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Not trying to sound racist but was there s real reason ended up being a black "High Yellow" person in the TV series when in fact she is a white woman in the comics?

Did they have to hire a black actress because of the whole "Affirmative Action" thing? If so whatever that is fine I guess because I have to admit this "High Yellow" black actress can definitely hold her own as the character of Tulip.
I am just curious is all...

Tulip's race in the comic is inconsequential. Casting an actress of mixed race in the role and altering their relationship history so that it started in childhood solves plotholes the comic never noticed --such as why Grandma is so against Jesse being with Tulip when she can have everything she wants if she just holds her hostage and force them to marry. Grandma would never agree to Jesse marrying a Tulip as played by Ruth Negga, so Jody shooting her makes dramatic sense.

"I speak Spanish to God, French to women, English to men, and Japanese to my horse."

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Grandma didn't want Jesse with Tulip because Grandma hadn't hand picked her and she was "too skinny" to be a good brood mare for the bloodline. Grandma's a wee bit of a narcissist if you'd not noticed.

At present nothing is possible except to extend the area of sanity little by little.

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Again, she can have Jesse exactly where she wants him if she does nothing but hold Tulip hostage. If she does that, she wins. Killing Tulip (if Tulip's white) goes against any plan she could have.

If Tulip's black or mixed race, Grandma's actions make all the sense in the world. In fact, she and the rest of his family pose a bigger threat to Tulip than they do in the comic just by existing.

EDIT TO ADD: Also, Ruth Negga certainly is slim enough to anger Grandma on purely narcissistic levels too.

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She is probably cast only bc she is black but what do you expect out of hollywood?

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She is probably cast only bc she is black but what do you expect out of hollywood?

No, Ruth Negga was cast first and foremost because she's an excellent actress. Likely an Oscar nominated one for her performance in the movie LOVING as well. So that's good news for AMC.

The other reason is as I said before: Making Tulip O'Hare of mixed race improves the character and her relationship dramatically with Jesse and his family. Even Garth Ennis has said he wished he'd thought of it back when he was doing the comic, and he'd do it that way if he were writing it now.

"I speak Spanish to God, French to women, English to men, and Japanese to my horse."

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I think shes spot on, shes got a tulip look, a tulip feel, she feels more tulip than tulip actually is in the comics.

It would be plain daft to restrict a character who can be cast from a wide talent pool to the limited 2D etchings of a comic book. Dillons women (and men) in everything he has ever drawn all have a generic look to them, if you cast them according to how his characters really looked, you'd have an incestuous bunch of large chinned thin faced squinting girls and guys.

Thankfully real life gives us a wider palette. Lets use it!

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It was likely an open ethnicity casting call and Ruth was the best actress / gave the best audition. Black/mixed actresses CAN be the best for a part you know.

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@matrix101


Seriously, who in the hell even uses that old-school outdated term "high yellow" anymore? She got the role obviously because she passed the audition and the producers thought she was good enough for the role,duh. Not hard to figure that out. Why the hell is that so hard to believe in this day and age? White actors/actresses get the majority of leading roles in Hollywood,whether they're good enough for them or not, and you're whining about ONE black actress getting a good role? Please--get the hell on out of here with that nonsense already.

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...Am I the only person wondering what "High yellow" even means?!? Lol

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No.

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I decided to post this as it includes one of those "Really? Hm, I never knew that" bits of info.

From Wikipedia:
High yellow, occasionally simply yellow (dialect: yaller, yeller), is a term used to describe persons classified as black according to the one-drop rule, despite having primarily white European ancestry. It is a color reference to the golden skin tone of some mixed-race people. The term was in common use in the United States at the end of the 19th century and the early decades of the 20th century, but is now considered obsolete and sometimes offensive. It is reflected in such popular songs of the era as "The Yellow Rose of Texas."

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Why does it matter?

"I have EXORCISED the demon"

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Do you have similar "I'm not racist but" postings about Scarlett Johansson being cast as the lead in Ghost in the Shell?

Or do you reserve those for when a POC wins the role of a character originally portrayed as white?

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