Considering the British were defeated badly by Colonist in the revolutionary war. I don't know if I'll be able to buy this movie if it's told as a historically accurate film. One it basically has the same plot as Letters From Iwo Jima. Is Nolan going to get lazy? Is he just going to digitally dub LFIJ and sell Dunkirk as a new movie? Or is he going to step up his game?
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From every documentary I've seen on Dunkirk. The British soldiers were only trying to evacuate. Hardly any fight in them. The French showed a little more balls. But, France was also taken over by the Nazi. I know that Germany planned to invade Britain if a peace was not met. If I'm correct, it was called Operation Sea Lion.
https://fabiusmaximus.com/2012/03/04/36199/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/invasion_ww2_01.shtml
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So, will the RAF be depicted in Dunkirk?
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Yes, the RAF shows up. Apparently Tom Hardy and Jack Lowden play RAF pilots. At least 6 airports were used during the location filming - two in France, two in Netherlands, two in UK, including stunt pilots and military pilots.
Nolan had the IMAX bolted to a metal rig on the wing of a vintage plane and the plane was flown that way. The IMAX was also bolted inside the cabin of a vintage plane with the extended/prism(?) lens over the pilot's shoulder but I don't know if they flew that or just used it on the ground for footage of the cockpit dash.
Nolan used a number of vintage planes as well as big (10 foot long?) RC planes big enough to be chased with the copter/IMAX, and a full size Spitfire replica.
Dunkirk itself is not a ground battle. There was a lot of ground battle leading to Dunkirk but I don't think this movie will be covering that.
The allied forces that reached Dunkirk were running low on ammunition. The German forces surrounded 330,000 predominantly British/Irish and France forces on all sides except the water. The Germans had met tough resistance and suffered losses getting close to them but the land around Dunkerque was not good for their vehicles and had been made more difficult with purposely damaged/disabled vehicles the allies barricaded routes with.
The Germans used their planes to bomb and strafe the town, the soldiers on the beach and the ships that were trying to rescue them. Britain called for all boats and ships over 30 feet long to rescue soldiers from Dunkerque. They could be piloted by military but many civilian boat owners chose to pilot their boats themselves into battle to try to save soldiers.
I don't see how that is related to Letters From Iwo Jima.
Really?
Long-buried missives from the island reveal the stories of the Japanese troops who fought and died there during World War II. Among them are Saigo (Kazunari Ninomiya), a baker; Baron Nishi (Tsuyoshi Ihara), an Olympic champion; and Shimizu (Ryô Kase), an idealistic soldier. Though Lt. Gen. Tadamichi Kuribayashi (Ken Watanabe) knows he and his men have virtually no chance of survival, he uses his extraordinary military skills to hold off American troops as long as possible.
There arew a few differences between the campaigns that one would expect to be reflected in film due to very different cultural and military situations.
One of the biggest is that the Japanese at Iwo Jima were expected and expected themselves to die in place. They mostly did. The British at Dunkirk knew they had a chance to escape. Of about four hundred thousand Allied soldiers there, about eleven thousand died and fifty thousand were captured. At Iwo Jima, eighteen thousand of the twenty-one thousand Japanese troops on the island were killed with only 216 taken prisoner.
Clearly gathered that much. My issue with WWII is the consistency. Due to the fact that the world was at war. How can anyone truly determine if the dates are accurate? Wouldn't part of the campaign be to eliminate postal service?
World War I wasn't known as World War I until years later. It was originally known as The Great War. And as years passed historians put together what was a series of battles fought around the world dating after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. I agree with what you're saying as you can find those facts on the internet and you can decide that they hold true. But what do they do in the long run? Echo through generations? Those facts do nothing to liberate the individual. It doesn't move the world forward.
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How can anyone truly determine if the dates are accurate?
Didn't allied forces fight alongside one another? Shouldn't US battles be taken into consideration? Or did they have off that day?
Collapse of Nazi Germany
Fall of Japanese and Italian Empires (What was happening with organized crime in the US)
Creation of the United Nations
Emergence of the United States and the Soviet Union as superpowers
Beginning of the Cold War
Total War
Strategic bombing, as during World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War (Operations Rolling Thunder and Linebacker II)
Blockade and sieging of population centers, as with the Allied blockade of Germany and the Siege of Leningrad during the First and Second World Wars
Scorched earth policy, as with the March to the Sea during the American Civil War and the Japanese "Three Alls Policy" during the Second Sino-Japanese War
Commerce raiding, tonnage war, and unrestricted submarine warfare, as with privateering, the German U-Boat campaigns of the First and Second World Wars, and the United States submarine campaign against Japan during World War II
Collective punishment, pacification operations, and reprisals against populations deemed hostile, as with the execution and deportation of suspected Communards following the fall of the 1871 Paris Commune or German reprisal policy targeting resistance movements, insurgents, and Untermenschen such as in France (e.g. Maillé massacre) and Poland during World War II
The use of civilians and prisoners of war as forced labor for military operations, as with Japan and Germany's massive use of forced laborers of other nations during World War II (see Slavery in Japan and Forced labor under German rule during World War II)[2]
Giving no quarter (i.e. take no prisoners), as with Hitler's Commando Order during World War II
So, what importance does this evacuation mission serve? A bunch of what? Reserve soldiers who didn't want to fight get surrounded by German forces? And no other military operation going on at the time had anything to do with the way Dunkirk turned out?
From what I'm reading Nolan didn't do enough research to tell this story. Fact for fact anyway...
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???? What does the American Revolution have to do with Dunkirk?
What's missing in movies is same as in society: a good sense of work ethic and living up to ideals.
Well, I imagine some folks left the native land to flock to America. This more than likely left a sour taste in the mouths of those who didn't. if I raised a family in England. And my children left to start fresh in America, would I be pissed off? What do you mean what does it have to do with Dunkirk? Is not all war the same? If you take into consideration all of the battles that happened before or after The Hundred Years' War and The War of the Roses. The population would be decimated. Consider the American ideal. All that was fought for during the Revolutionary War. All of the things that stood in the way of freedom. This war known as the revolutionary war was not (is not) won yet. Doesn't matter if you're French, Russian. Chinese. etc...You are human. You are all that remains in this war for freedom. And when all is said and done. We are one nation under God. With liberty and justice for all.
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What's missing in movies is same as in society: a good sense of work ethic and living up to ideals.
“Insanity is relative. It depends on who has who locked in what cage.”
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All I know is that I spent the first 22 years of my life staying silent and silence got me nowhere.
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That is the second time someone on this site has assumed me to be mentally ill. I don't give many chances. If you're going to insult the genius. Then you have no faith in anything. Without speaking a word you tell me that by excluding abstract thought we move the world forward. You are of limited mind and so choose to bring down those who can dream. To that I say no words. I simply go about my days with a smile on my face knowing that you crossed the one person you shouldn't have. 😁
We have what we seek, it is there all the time, and if we give it time, it will make itself known.
Simply could've been a joke. I'm aware of that. But, I'm subjected to insults on a daily basis by so called "family." I'm mocked for speaking my mind. Treated like dog *beep*
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My answers were reasonable. But your original post was a bit antagonistic since if it was a joke, that was not clear. You wondered if Nolan was going to be lazy and just dub another film. That's not that funny on a Nolan film forum topic.
Nolan is not lazy. He amazed me during filming - he's so hands-on. He climbed a wood fence to show Fionn how to do it, he flew in the chase copter, ran along the beach with the IMAX cart, hand-turned the plane fusilage Hardy was filmed in on the tip of a cliff in California, was in the middle of an explosion w/ Hoytema and the IMAX wear protection of a raincoat, safety glasses and a a 1940's borrowed helmet, etc. And he was out there every day from the crack of dawn and often until late at night, in the same often-miserable weather everyone else was in. I never followed along with the production of a film before and I was expecting someone who sat in a director's chair. What I saw was the opposite.
I think the film is going to be fantastic. All of the vintage hardware Nolan brought together, all of the massive things the production crew built like full size battleship replicas and parts for the destruction scenes, all of the redecoration and restoration and all of the little touches and costumes. And the IMAX film - he had that camera everywhere - on boats, on a plane wing, on a boom on a boat, on a copter, underwater.
Not lazy at all. And not dubbing anyone else's movie.
Exactly. Don't cry about it. I'm a fan of his because he has the creativity. He raises the bar with each movie that he makes. I'm a FAN and I'm not really looking forward to this film. That is what I was saying. I don't care about vintage airplanes. History Channel beat him to the punch a hundred times over.
We have what we seek, it is there all the time, and if we give it time, it will make itself known.
I usually don't even like war movies. I like science fiction, fantasy, futuristic etc. But I really want to see how Nolan does his war movie. I also think the focus will be on the rescue. I think the Moonstone piloted by Rylance will be really interesting since he ends up with a lot of the main cast on his boat.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FKAUPOWgocI
Here's a trailer I put together using various WWII flicks
Exactly. Don't cry about it. I'm a fan of his because he has the creativity. He raises the bar with each movie that he makes. I'm a FAN and I'm not really looking forward to this film. That is what I was saying. I don't care about vintage airplanes. History Channel beat him to the punch a hundred times over.
We have what we seek, it is there all the time, and if we give it time, it will make itself known.