I didn't think Trump was Presidential, though I didn't care for Hillary, I was leaning towards voting for her. I saw the trailer, and I remembered how the Hollywood left continues to bash males. The status quo continues to turn me off.
shareMost of the "males" on this show are stand-up guys. You seem to be concerned that rapists are not being represented in a more favorable light?
shareI am concerned only males are shown in a bad light. I'll tell you what, have a show where women are the "bad guys" and the male protagonists exact revenge by zapping them in their lady parts with a taser. How would the regressive left or feminist react? My guess they would see it as misogyny.
so you haven't seen episode 4, or the promo for it?
Also I think you may be confusing "male" with "rapist."
No, just the trailer. Does Episode 4 deviate from the main premise? Not all men are rapist, but all rapist are men.
shareNot all men are rapist, but all rapist are men.
It would have been interesting if this show had dealt with a female rapist at some point
shareIf we lived in a society where 1 in 5 men get raped and 1 in 20 women surveyed freely stated that they have physically forced someone to have sex but don't consider it rape? Then yes, I would be happy to see a show where male protagonists zap women with tasers.
If you watch a movie about the KKK, do you complain that it's anti-white because it doesn't show any Black people lynching White people?
If we lived in a society where 1 in 5 men get raped
1 in 20 women surveyed freely stated that they have physically forced someone to have sex but don't consider it rape
If you watch a movie about the KKK, do you complain that it's anti-white because it doesn't show any Black people lynching White people?
How often SHOULD rape occur?
US stats by RAINN say 1 in 6 women vs. 1 in 33 men have been victims of sexual assault in various forms. So if the roles were reversed and men were more at risk for sexual violence and I was being dismissive and trivializing it, would that be OK?
Do you also troll breast cancer support group and call everyone misandrists because men can get it, too? Part of the reason only 2% of rapists are actually prosecuted is because people are so quick to blame victims and assume that the victim was just a whore who regretted the sex. Pathetic.
only 2% of rapists are actually prosecuted
"rapists are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law". Well, not in Stanford, apparently.
shareThe Stanford guy had rape charges against him dropped by prosecutors. That suggests to me they didn't have enough evidence to convict him. Therefore it's reasonable to assume that he may have been innocent of rape. And it's better than a guilty person go free, than an innocent person go to prison.
The charges they did convict him on were sexual assault, which is a much lesser charge. That's why his jail sentence was so light. But I wouldn't say he is without punishment. It still ruined his life.
I don't think it's cool what he did. I believe he was seen molesting an unconscious girl. But that's not the same as raping someone.
And this is why this is such an important issue. Your comment seems to make the argument that because it was only sexual assault it should somehow lessen the impact of what he did.
It still ruined his life
What I said was that sexual assault is a lesser charge than rape, and carries a lighter sentence.
It does lessen the impact though. Ask anyone. There is a big difference between sexual assault (being groped) and rape. I'm not defending sexual assault, but merely being groped while unconscious is not enough to ruin your life.
I'm not minimizing what happened. I'm just making a comparison.
This is assuming that's what happened by the way. This is assuming she got drunk and passed out on her own accord, and that she wasn't drugged. This is assuming that she was merely groped or felt up, and that she wasn't raped.
It's possible that she was raped. I'm not saying it didn't happen. But the prosecutor dropped the rape charge.
Again not minimizing. But I think most people would agree. Being felt up isn't nearly the same violation as being raped.
I know what you're trying to say, but the way you are expressing these ideas are a bit problematic.
You might want to look up the definition of sexual assault, though, if you believe being felt up/groped is the only characterization.
Peace.
There are legal definitions of things and then there are the actual definitions of things. I was describing a general definition since legal definitions are usually quite wordy.
I also addressed the possibility that he may have done more than just touch a girl. I don't know what he did. I only know what he was charged with.
No. She can still get a job, move to anywhere etc. He cannot. She can get over it, and move on with her life, if she's strong enough. He will never be able to move on. He's a registered sex offender for life.
I've known of a few cases where the girls were lying. One lied to her father, another to her bf. I don't know millions of people. If there were that many false cases in my circle, I shutter to think how many rape accusations are fake.
Even if it wasn't false. You make a good point. She got fingered. She doesn't even remember it happening. I'm not minimizing it but it's not comparable to murder or even rape, yet people expect it to carry the same punishment.
There is a good chance it was false though. She was wasted. In his version of the story, she was conscious. She says she doesn't recall what happened. So the conviction was based on what the two witnesses saw.
I'm not saying he was innocent. It doesn't look too good for him. But statistically false convictions are quite common in sex cases.
I'm just concerned the "heroines" in this show will be determining a guy's guilt the way a lot of feminists do - by simplicity believing the woman's story. The old "accusation = guilt".
You see those stories all the time where a guy spent his productive years in prison and later it was determined he was innocent after all.
shareWhen a woman says that she was raped, why is it often a person's first instinct to question her honesty? If someone claims to be the victim of a robbery or a different crime, they don't usually face the same kind of doubt from others. Why do we assume the woman is lying?
http://www.veemoze.wordpress.com/ So It Must Be True
I don't assume anyone is lying, I also don't assume someone is guilty.
And the difference between a (typical for this show, I imagine) date rape and a robbery, is that there is pretty much no motive for a 7-11 clerk to say he was robbed when he wasn't, but we all know there are plenty of cases where things were not as they seemed in these date rape cases.
Or haven't you ever heard of a case where a woman woke up the next day with a case of the regrets, and instead of face her boyfriend/husband/father and a "walk of shame" decided to accuse some guys of a crime that would pretty much end their lives, if convicted of it?
People really overestimate the "motive" of a woman to lie about rape. Has it happened? Sure, but I just don't think we need to assume it happens 50% of the time.
http://www.veemoze.wordpress.com/ So It Must Be True
I never suggested it happens 50% of the time. I'm simply saying it's a nice thing to assume someone is innocent until proven guilty.
But what really infuriates me is the slap on the wrist the Law seems to give to women who admit or are proven to have been lying. Going to jail for a rape you didn't commit - for a guy just starting his life in college - is pretty much a fate worse than death. And yet I've heard of suspended sentences in some cases.
Suspended sentences?
Most of the males are NOT stand-up guys.
The only one who is unequivocally a stand up guy is Harris, with Tyler being a potential second depending on how he takes the murder of his brother-in-law. The rest are either rapists, misogynists (like the cops who won't investigate the rapes) or hapless idiots (like the campus security guy).
Congratulations, you helped fúck over an entire country because you were butthurt!
shareNot the entire country.
shareThat's 1/100,000,000 of the blame. I can deal with that. But more importantly, maybe it will teach the Hollywood elitists a lesson. Political Correctness gone wild and it's backfiring.
shareSo you based your vote on a MTV teen show? Amazing.
shareHey, hey, HEY....for chumpuppets, that's pretty good...first, he was watching something other than FauxNews...second, the female leads weren't nymphomaniac models...third, once it wasn't what he expected, he made it through MOST of ONE SHOW, attention span being what it is for chumpuppets, that's REALLY dang good.
So...credit where credit's due for the racist, *beep* teabilly who voted for Gropenfuhrer.