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It was the *beep* burn card


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Haha As a holdem player myself this also annoyed me.

Yet despite this mistake, I have to say this show gave the most accurate representation of Holdem I have ever seen. Most movies and shows will barely even try to give any details when it comes to how gambling works. First show I've ever really seen try, and they did a bang up job IMO. Watch any Bond movie for a perfect example of how it's usually done. Pitiful.

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The hands were still a bit hollywood anyway, just once I'd like to see pocket 2s beating 9 high...

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Agreed. But to be fair, who wants to watch completely realistic Holdem hands? Would be pretty boring IMO.

Still, when a show can accurately use terms like 'one out' and 'fourth streeet,' they're doing better than every other show on tv depicting poker (other than WSOP ofc :)

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yeah, true, i just hate the royal flush vs 4 of a kind vs FH showdowns that you get sometimes, especially when the hero spawns a 1 outer he had no business chasing when hes supposed to know what hes doing! would much prefer a junk showdown bluff vs amazing read sometimes

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And by the way, like a lottt of other people on this board, I found the typically awesome Bryan Cranston irritatingly unconvincing as Vince. And although I agree that it can be refreshing for a movie or show to use more inside terms like one outter or 4th street, I remember kind of cringing when he said 4th street- it really just felt forced, and I wasn't sure if it was the writing, the delivery or both. But something felt wrong about it when, in theory, it should've resonated positively.

I guess in short, I just felt that Cranston was very poorly cast in this show and I guess I may have found almost anything "inside" he said to be a little off-putting. Then again, it could be then in real life, in that precise situation, I really don't know if anyone slings out such slang as "4th Street" rather than "the turn". I've played a lot of cards in my day, and I feel like only a jabroni would say "fourth street"- especially when yelling about it.

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Okay.

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"EVER SEEN"?? Come on man.

You miss the part where Marius checks to Vince who checks to the whale and the whale says...(gag)...."I RIASE $5,000"?

Dude playing those kind of stakes seemingly every night doesn't know that a BET and not a raise??

JUST GET IT ALL RIGHT- FOR ONCE!!! WHY CAN"T ANY SINGLE FREAKIN' MOVIE OR SHOW DO THAT???

EVER???????????

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So I'm guessing the word 'ever' is your trigger word? Or maybe your safe word? Should we not say it in front of the children?

And to answer your question: Yup, ever.

Also, if you're going to be so aggressive moving forward, try and figure out who you're actually mad at first. Not to be Captain Obvious here, but if you actually read the post you're responding to, I never once mention this game other than my opening line, only the depiction of poker in general.

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Yes, it was definitely the word ever. One can surmise one of two things from that proclamation of yours:

1) That you have seen an extremely limited number of scenes on film or tv depicting Texas hold 'em or
2) That you don't know how to play Texas hold 'em (or play it well anyway)

But the fact is, it's not you I'm particularly disappointed in- it's the ENTIRE tv/film industry who can NEVER (there's my version of hyperbole) to do just a LITTLE bit of homework (or have a pro or capable player on set) to get EVERY SINGLE THING right. It really is not THAT HARD!! It just isn't!!

DON'T forget that the Jack of spades was actually the BURN CARD and DON"t forget that it was a BET, not a RAISE!!!!!!!

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Cool story bruh.

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Ha you again! Putz.

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Oh you guys... so cute!

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I've got to agree on this point. A supposed whale calling raise without having been bet into? Just weak. That's something you see at a 2/4 table. It simply never happens in underground, high-stakes rooms. They really should have run it by a consultant before wrapping the scene. Hard to believe nobody in the room caught it, though.

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I'm not sure I saw them do this and I doubt most places would do it, but the dealer could have pre-burned a card.

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i thought this too...did you rewind to see if he burnt one right before Cranston stopped the action? me either. I'm content believing he would of burned off the bottom of the deck.

I DO CROSSWORD PUZZLES IN PEN CUZ IM JUST THAT CONFIDENT

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Yeah I noticed these also, but then I also thought I noticed before Eddie put a burn card on top of another burn card before the flop? but I may have saw that wrong. Anyway I was satisfied that Vince waited for Eddie to burn the last card.

As for mistaking a bet for a raise, when I was a poker dealer a few high rollers would get thing like that wrong. It is unlikely that he wouldn't know the difference, but as Marius had just sat down and Mukerjie WAS an unsuspecting pawn in the end and unaware of the con, he may have downplayed his knowledge by deliberately calling it a raise instead of a bet to throw marius off his competence. And if it wasn't deliberate, I like to think that it adds to his innocence in the situation - all these con artists surrounding him and he doesn't even know the difference between a bet and a raise.

Either way, it doesn't really matter, it's only because poker enthusiasts are such *beep* pedants that this is even a thread. I think it's just nice to know enough about something to be able to yell at the telly "THAT'S NOT RIGHT". We should be happy we spotted it, not angry that a tv show doesn't 100% reflect reality

Let the game begin...

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Eh, fair enough- on all points.

Still doesn't mean these lazy ass producers and directors and editors can't just have one poker scene without an error. Just once.

One of the most egregious things I've seen (and I believe it may have happened in both Casino Royal and Rounders), is when someone announces all in and just straight up shoves all their chips into the pot. Oh, and nobody at the table even flinches at how impossibly inexcusable that is to do.

Just.
Get.
It.
Right.

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