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They should be ashamed since the movie is based on lies

posted 9 years ago by warriorsfan03
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By all accounts, Harris and Klebold shot Rachel Scott without saying a word to her. There is no evidence that she was targeted for being a Christian or that any of the dialogue the film attributes to that event was ever uttered to anyone.

It's utterly disgusting and vile that the Fundie Christian Right has to capitalize on this tragic event to push their agenda and their persecution complex, to the point where they have to make up LIES about it to do so. You believe in God, would God approve of you peddling lies in his name? Everyone involved in this movie is human garbage.

[–] d-kuhn 9 years ago

I completely agree, and I actually went to this IMDB page just to see if someone else was feeling the same way I did, and I see you were 100 percent spot on.

I mean, if I didn't know it was actually serious because famous Christians such as a member of Duck Dynasty appear in the film, I would have thought the trailer was a parody. The title cards are so amateur and almost funny:

"AMERICA CHANGED FOREVER"
"COLUMBINE."
"RACHEL SCOTT WAS THE FIRST MURDERED."
"SHE WAS MURDERED FOR HER FAITH IN JESUS!"

Then it cuts to these scenes that look like a Lifetime Original Movie of some kind of teen romance. It's trying to follow the lead of low budget Christian films that make tons of money based off word of mouth, such as God's Not Dead. It thinks that if it uses an even smaller budget, and takes on something as "moving" as telling the story of a murdered teenager, forces God into the equation, and they will strike a goldmine.

It honestly makes me sick. I remember hearing it be PROVEN that the shooters never made mention of peoples' religions, or shot them for their faith. All we have here is people trying to Christianize and sugar coat a violent event in American history that people did NOT need to be reminded of... ALL for money.

I swear, I really think this looks too low budget to actually have any kind of wide distribution, but if it ends up doing what God's Not Dead did and make lots of money at the box office... I honestly think I would lose all hope for the fate of our country.

[–] d-kuhn 9 years ago

There are so many bizarre things about this trailer... such as, in the middle of the trailer when she's giving some speech over the narration, it shows her mutely having a conversation with someone, then walking away... then we see it's a boy who has a severely disfigured looking face smiling. The he starts jumping up and down as she walks away, watching her in the distance...

It also shows a scene where Eric Harris is staring at Rachel in class almost as if he's admiring her, and draws tears in his notebook... I'm pretty sure it was determined they shot people at random.

[–] crashtwinsanity 9 years ago

They shot people at random, and Eric and Dylan had no classes with Rachel. Dylan only had Rachel 8n his theater class. Rachels hair was NOT long when she died. It was very short, and almost impossible for Eric to grab her hair

Complete FAIL.

[–] cwg2779 8 years ago

I don't know if that's completely true. I read a book about Rachel Scott years back saying that one of the shooters wrote in his journal or something saying that she was a "godly whore" or something to that effect. Allegedly she had perviously denied him for a date or something.

[–] Livevil9912 8 years ago

The rachel that was written about was NOT Rachel Scott, it was a girl in Eric and Dylan's Psychology class. the "Godly whores" were either Rachel Baker, or Rachel Goodwin. the other girl referred to as a "godly whore" was Jennifer Grant.

[–] mewilton 8 years ago

God certainly doesn't like lies of any sort.

You say "by all accounts" - and yet Castaldo's account would say otherwise. He has changed it over time - but there was clearly some interaction!

[–] lildraco 8 years ago

Wow you're full of *beep* thr ballistics and autopsy reports show she was dead from the first shot, which was shot at approx 50ft away, her best friend, which survived the shooting, confirmed this to be accurate

[–] bible-and-science-forum 8 years ago

"He has changed it over time..."

No. He simply corrected and denied the HEARSAY that someone else CLAIMED he stated after the shooting. There is no official evidence that he ever changed his account of events. The only thing he ever said about hearing Rachel was his memories of her crying.

You've confused hearsay-mythology with what Richard Castaldo actually stated.

Why not celebrate the reality of her life before the shooting---rather than obsess on the fantasized drama surrounding an imaginary account of her death?

[–] mewilton 8 years ago

Lol. I'm not confusing anything - my issue is the dismissal of any alternative to what you state happened. There is plenty of other evidence that opens up other possible conclusions of what happened.

For example,
https://attackthesystem.com/2012/04/17/the-survivor-richard-castaldo-challenges-the-official-columbine-narrative/

I'm not after an argument. Just dislike claims that mislead others into thinking there's no other possible conclusion than their's.

Anyhoo. All the best.

[–] Bruce7 8 years ago

She was approached by Eric and Dylan. In Rachels Tears, a book about Rachel Scott (which I am reading right now), on page 91-92, it says "According to Richard's earliest account, he and Rachel were sitting outside when they saw Harris and Klebold approaching. Without warning, the two men opened fore, severing Richard's spine and shooting Rachel twice in her legs and once in her torso." Then on page 92, it says "...the shooters began to walk away, only to return seconds later. At that point, Harris reportedly grabbed Rachel by her hair, held her head up, and asked her the question: 'Do you believe in God?'
'You know I do.'
'Then go be with Him.' responded Harris before shooting her in the head."

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