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8.9? You Nolan zombies are nuts!!!


This movie - if you can call a 12 minute tour around an artist's workshop a "movie" - now has a higher rating than any single work produced by its subjects. That kind of exposes the hypocrisy of how these ratings work.

Once again you're rating the director with absolutely no interest at all in the content or delivery. That the Quay brothers' movies are rated in the 6s and 7s and this joker gets wall to wall 10s for essentially filming their office-space is a farce.

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How do you know it's not fans of the quay brother's who are giving it a high rating?

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Because all the threads on this board so far are about Nolan? Some people didn't even know what the film is about! I agree with the OP. Also all of the voters so far seem to be younger males, i.e. Nolan's fan boy demographic.

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what is your point

it is very much possible that a movie made on someone can have better rating than that someone's movies

that is the genius of Nolan

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So your point is, that anything Nolan does automatically gets a high rating. That is exactly what the OP was ranting about.

Do you think that Nolan feels his 8 minute doc is better than every single film the Quays have ever made and should have a 9+ rating? Surely not. He is not a god, get over it.

ETA: I have nothing against Nolan, just as a Quays fan, the fanatic adoration of Nolan fanboys which I am getting a glimpse at through this project is kind of frightening.

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yes, i do believe this documentary will most probably be better than any of Quay brothers' actual works

first off, Quays i have never even heard of, if they did any great work, it would have been known

secondly, it's Nolan, even if he touches mud, it will turn into gold

even without seeing this i can claim it will be top notch, because i believe in Nolan's genius

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This entire comment and the one below yours just proves my point.

You really think that YOU would know every great work of art ever created because all great art rakes in millions? There is so much wrong with that train of thought I don't even know where to start.

The reason Nolan even made this short to begin with is because HE is a huge fan of their art. He has even mentioned that The Prestige has been influenced by the Quays' films. So clearly, Chris seems to think they are influential artists. As does anyone else who actually knows the work.

Cheers. Keep living in your mainstream bubble.


PS: If you've ever seen Peter Gabriel's video for Sledgehammer, you have seen some of the Quays' work, if just in diluded format.

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Jesus you're dumb

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First of all, Nolan's documentary is not 8 min, it's 12. And yes, I think possibility that Nolan think his own work is better than somebody else's is pretty high.

Nolan, I love you forever!

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Some reviewers mentioned it is only 8 minutes, as for the rest, I honestly doubt Nolan would be so arrogant to put his work above that of some of his own idols.

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While this site claims that it's 12 minutes, because the whole program is 70 minutes long, and Quay brother's works's runtime, presented in it, is 58 minutes. And, please, do not exaggerate the importance of Quays to Nolan, he's a fan of their works, yes, but they're definetely not his idols, compared to Stanley Kubrick or Riddley Scott.

Nolan, I love you forever!

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Please don't comment on Nolan any more. You make Nolan fans come across as immature idiots. If you actually think Nolan looks upon his work as greater than others, then you're simply delusional. When asked if he thinks he has deserved the honour of being nominated for director of the year, he said no and that he's humbled by people clamouring for him to be nominated. He understands that there's many great directors out there, all just as good, hard working and visionary as he is. He's a very humble man, not arrogant as you suggest.

You don't know Nolan. Just because you've read some IMDB trivia about Stanley Kubrick, and Ridely Scott being directors of some of his favourite films, and him mentioning them a few times in interviews, doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate the Quays just as much. If Nolan didn't appreciate and love their work, for one, he wouldn't even bother making a documentary short about them.

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No, no and no again. The degree of your delusion strikes. I know Nolan. I know whereof I speak. Unlike you. If you can find one, just one comment from me, which suggests that Nolan is arrogant, I'll delete my account immediately. But there's no one such a comment. Every comment of mine suggests Nolan to be a modest and respecting other people's work filmmaker. And, like Nolan himself, I seriously think that he has a full right to think that his own work is higher for him personally than somebody other's work (except Kubrick, probably). And Quays are not Kubrick. Every talented man, who are working in the industry, in the cinema, think this way. You, probably, don't get it, because you do not work in the industry or do not talented, or both of it, but that is not my fault. Improve yourself.

And about Quays... Even the one who is far from being called a Nolan fan knows that Quays can not be compared to Kubrick or Scott in Nolan's mind. It's just a fact. You can recognize them, you can love their works better than Nolan's works, but you can't deny it, because it is a truth. It's like, Earth spins around the Sun, or water boils at 100 degrees. And it's not that he spoke about it in all the interviews and articles, but the influence of their work on his and his mood about them. The whole Interstellar, two and a half hour masterpiece, is a dedication to Kubrick. And you compare this with the 12-minute short about Quays? If Kubrick was still alive, Nolan could do a feature-length documentary film about him.

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You know Nolan? Really? Tell me how. Magazine interviews? Video interviews? Trivia? If so, then you know him about as much as any fan. Also, many of the people who have worked with him including Hans Zimmer and Michael Caine say he's a very complex man who is hard to know, so I doubt you know him as much as you claim you do. I apologise, I misread a post by mysteryfan as one of yours, however, Nolan does not have a right to look down upon someone's work and think his is better. No director does. I don't think Nolan would honestly look at his work as better than Scorcese's, Tarantino's, Scott's, Anderson's, or other highly acclaimed directors past or present. I don't think any of them would, and for good reason. You work in the industry? Really? I highly doubt it (especially when you have "Nolan, I love you forever" as a tag), and I doubt the Quay's are as good as Kubrick because Kubrick is the greatest director of all time, no doubt in my mind. "Or do not talented", amazing English genius. Plus, I'm a university student, so you claiming to be a "professional" in the movie industry makes your comment even more embarrassing. As you would realise that the movie industry is subjective and people can rate anyone's work above anyone else's. Someone could regard Ed Wood's films as better than Kubrick's, and they have every right too and are not wrong to say so. As while I believe Kubrick is the best director of all time, it's completely subjective and not factual. Also, you're most likely an adult in the late twenties or early thirties, and you're acting incredibly immature.

You don't know Nolan's mind. For instance, barely anyone would have imagined that Nolan enjoys Michael Bay's Transformer movies with all the computer graphics they have, and his cinematographer Wally Pfister said he loves them. What does loving Nolan's work have anything to do with who Nolan enjoys more, Kubrick, Scott or the Quays? It doesn't. Who knows? I cannot claim to know the man, and while it's evident he does enjoy the Quays, I do imagine that he's mostly inspired by Scott who I believe he mentioned was one of his favourite directors, and is inspired by Kubrick because of Interstellar. That's really irritating, as Kubrick and Nolan's films are different, as well as Scott's. Kubrick and Nolan are two different people, and it does Nolan a disservice when people compare him to Kubrick. Kubrick, for one, didn't deploy emotion in his movies, while Nolan tries to make the audience feel sympathetic towards characters such as in Interstellar with Cooper crying over the video messages. Kubrick's films are far more vague than Nolan's, and Kubrick doesn't tell the audience the answers behind everything, while Nolan does. Kubrick used a lot of nudity in his films and often featured scenes of sex, while Nolan hasn't. In Nolan's movies, the music tells you how to feel, while Kubrick allows the audience to feel however they want. Such as in A Clockwork Orange, when Alex is being tortured by the sound of Beethoven, there's no sad music telling you to feel sorry for Alex, there's just diagetic sound which allows you to feel how you want. Be it feeling sorry for him, or feeling he's getting what he deserves. They're different people and their work is different (Interstellar is the only work of Nolan's which is sort of similar to Kubrick's (2001 A Space Odyssey), but even then they're different still). Interstellar is in some ways similar to 2001 A Space Odyssey, but is not dedicated to Kubrick at all. It's Nolan's Sci-fi masterpiece that he has wanted to make. You can do documentaries about dead people, you know that right? And again, saying Interstellar is made only as a dedication to Kubrick, disservices Nolan.

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You don't know who I am. You can't know who I am. You can't judge about that only by my words, avatar and nickname. It makes no sense. Therefore, all your preconceived words in my direction are meaningless, erroneous and incorrect in advance, because you don't know who I am, what I am as a person. You're trying to talk about what you don't know and can't know. It's like a person on Earth would try to talk about life on Gliese 581 c. You can speculate and conjecture, but you can't bring a quality of reliability on you claims, just as you can't bring that quality to all the words in your posts. There is a connection between me and Nolan, a connection neither you nor the person like you can understand. I'm much much closer to him than you can imagine, and I know whereof I speak about him. My knowledge about Nolan is based not on videos or interviews with him, I even did't read all of them. As well as this my knowledge is based on some quotes by him or words, said by him, or his gesticulation or things like that. Read: my knowledge of Nolan is based on global understanding of his phylosophy and his mind. Everything concluded here.

The point is that Kubrick and Scott inspired all Nolan works in science fiction, why Quay inspired only The Prestige. The point is that Nolan references to Kubrick and Scott in many interviews and talks, while his desire to Quays was unexpected even for them ('He surprised us', they say) and was revealed only in this year. The point is that Nolan even didn't understand what he saw when he watched a Quays film for the first time, while he showed many times that he understands Kubrick and Scott's works. And Interstellar is totally a dedication to Kubrick, Nolan accentuated many times that this his film was inspired by 2001: A Space Odyssey, and many people already called Interstellar this century's Space Odyssey. That is a point. Don't get me wrong, Quays are wonderful, great filmmakers, and Nolan is a fan of them, and they inspired his work, and he respects they work too, but all of this can't be even compared to Kubrick and Scott.

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That hurts, I'm a 64 year old fan"boy"....LOL.

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There's only about 20 votes anyway. I'm a huge Nolan fan but I'm not sure why people are even voting for this. I mean, how many people have actually seen it?

Lol oh IMDb...

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Actually, it's 9.1 now.

Nolan, I love you forever!

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Opening paragraph doesn't make any sense. An artist can make a great piece of art about an inferior artist. If Warner Hertzog made a documentary about Ed Wood it would probably be better than anything Wood ever made, and rating it that way wouldn't be hypocritical.

Sit Ubu, sit. Good dog.

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It's a short movie, the scores for those are a little different than regular movies, you know. And it's only 120 votes so calm the f-ck down.
BTW, i'm sure it deserves this score 

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