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Too many Dark Knight Rises parallels...


Not sure if someone else has complained about this already, but this film shared way too many plot elements with The Dark Knight Rises, IMO.

-Batman gets dragged into a battle with a mysterious, bulky masked man on a metal walkway due to the outside interference of a masked female character he doesn't fully trust.

-The masked female character thinks that Batman may be dead after his encounter with the bulky masked man on the walkway, but she isn't completely sure.

-Batman disappears for the second act of the movie... and it turns out that he is shirtless and unmasked, at the mercy of the bulky masked man (who already knew his identity).

-Other characters, including a "robin," have to do the heavy lifting for the second act of the film.

-The villains break into Batman's armory, and their plan hinges on stealing and weaponizing a secret piece of Wayne technology.

-The bulky masked man turns out to be a complete pawn of Talia, who is trying to accomplish an evil plan in the wake of her father's death.

-Shortly after this reveal, the bulky masked man becomes a trivial character and gets shot and killed by a woman.

-Batman must overcome the damage the villains have inflicted on him (psychological in Bad Blood, physical in TDKR) in order to unite with robin and the masked woman and stop Talia's plan.

-The climactic shot of the final battle features a vehicle flying out over the water beyond Gotham and ultimately exploding.

-The final scene features a character newly donning the Bat-cowl and setting out to fight crime.

So... yeah. Maybe some of these are a stretch, but still, the film felt pretty derivative to me in this sense.

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You're right, but, at least this film wasn't a sucky bore fest.

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at least this film wasn't a sucky bore fest.


I thought the Dark Knight Rises was exceptionally thought-provoking. I really liked the themes they talked about regarding the metaphysical elements of hope, faith and despair.

The concept of how to break someone's will through and their own preservation was a unique look at how to torment the soul. The idea that someone could be stuck in some place where they offer you the hope of escape, but the impossibility of actually attaining that escape was a rather frightening concept.

Nevertheless, I imagine if those concepts and philosophies of metaphysics -- the embodiment of will through strife, and strife through hope -- bored you, then to each his own.

TDKR was one of the best films I've seen.

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TDKR was boring because it did, indeed, play with the things you mention, at a grade-school level, thoroughly derivative and unoriginal manner, and pounded on them until all that was lest was a somewhat-equine-shaped damp patch on the ground.

And the action sequences were truly ludicrous.

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TDKR was boring because it did, indeed, play with the things you mention, at a grade-school level, thoroughly derivative and unoriginal manner


The use of "unoriginal" would dictate that another movie touched on the same themes in a more original manner. Are there any other films out there that actually did mesh those concepts together that wasn't an indie arthouse flick?

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As if DC offers anything that hasn't be said and done a hundred times before.
Shallow and cliche they are. Different is only how they get presented. And in that the trilogy from Nolan hit my taste.
Those animated movies here are nice to look at but the presentation and resolve are terrible.

So, singling out a certain movie as unoriginal, while most projects are like that, is silly.

The only show that comes to my mind when talking about original would be The Brave and the Bold. That show certainly had many stories and esp chars I had no clue they existed.
But whether that is good or not is a different story.
Some of the Gotham Knight stories were original too.


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You have some points but not really.


Lose the Game!!!!!!!

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This didn't feel anything like The Dark Knight Rises to me. This actually felt like a BATMAN movie! Despite the fact that both movies barely feature Batman in them.

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Really the only similarity was Talia as the villain. Technically though, both the Nolanverse and the Son of Batman-verse are two of the many alternate universes in the DC world, so many things are going to parallel.

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