Fleetwood Mac - Rumours!

First, feeling drunk and showing it, especially when, as you say, one has a high tolerance for alcohol, are often very different things. The science is clear: the human body can only metabolize so much alcohol per hour based on weight, whether or not someone "feels" drunk. That's one of the chief reasons for people committing DUIs. But that never stopped me as a teenager from brazenly denying to my mother that I'd been drinking, and getting away with it.

Still, according to current values and standards and not those of 1977, had I said no to an ex boyfriend under the same circumstances, who then proceeded to have sex with me anyway, even if I was dressed "provocatively", it would be sexual assault. Asking why Letty opened the door in her underwear is irrelevant, and in my opinion offensive. It neo be an accepted fact that all women have the right to say no at any time, and to be protected from sexual assault.

I know this is a fictional drama, but like all decent entertainment, it raises issues of real life. One of my favorite sayings is "You have the right to your own opinion. You do not have the right to your own facts". Some in society may accept that we are now in a post truth world. I do not. But some facts are more important than others, and especially now that we will in days have a U.S. president who is a self described misogynist and sexual assaulter, and who poses a clear and present danger to the rights, health and safety of all women, among others, hearing people debate the truth of such facts is very concerning to me.

I think that Letty slept with Sean to get in his favor. She feared she would lose Jacob the next day in the hearing. What better way to get on Sean's good side than to sleep with him? She uses sex instead of a credit card, whatever. They must have had some sexual tension and it was something she was familiar with. Letty had just returned to Jacob's life and she was terrified that their lives would change so much. I think Letty knew full well what she was doing with Sean.

I did, thanks, in a nostalgic way. And it was a cover. But I do see your point.

I understand rape can happen just because the person is intoxicated and saying no should mean no. But at the same time throughout tv/movie history there have been many drunk/resistant sex scenes that end up with the two people actually enjoying it, and falling for each other. That may well be a slap in the face to people who had a similar experience with a very different outcome. However this scene clearly (to my mind)was set up by the producers/writers to show that Letty and Sean had chemistry and she is a flawed character, not to show rape however wrong that may be. I didn't buy the scene and didn't enjoy and don't condone it but I also still don't think it was rape, but agree to disagree on that. Instead of it being rape I think instead it was showing how little control Letty has when she is down and ends up making things worse (self destructive)

I never said I "condemned" anything. I said I was disturbed. If I have to explain why further, it would be a waste of time and space. Anyone who needs to have it explained why watching a woman be, to neutralize the act as much as possible, "taken advantage of", then hear it be normalized, either can't or won't understand, so I won't try.

No, I didn't see the comment by the director. I didn't receive notifications about any of the responses between my last and this one. But just as these sites exist for us as viewers to air our opinions and interpretations about shows and movies, regardless of what writers or anyone else intended, I agree with the poster who said that Sean's violence against Letty and his verbally abusive comments to her changed the way she saw any attraction between them.

One last thing: it's sometimes hard to tell from usernames the gender of posters, so I apologize in advance if I'm wrong. But in general, I am also concerned about the seemingly increasing split between men and women on the definition of sexual assault/rape, as well as an ignorance about the lasting post traumatic effects of such attacks, even when the victim wasn't conscious for it, didn't herself recognize that it happened, or other similar circumstances. PTSD is not something that only happens in combat. This may be a controversial post, but in light of recent events and what I've been reading in comments, I feel it must be said. I believe the first amendment to the Constitution is still in force, at least for now.