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great, but why [spoilers] scene?


What was the point for Connie to go hook up with Crystal? I get why he had to distract her by kissing her, but following thru? What did this add to the plot?

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I feel like it added to his character. Like he was already scummy and a robber that getting some he was thinking with his junk instead of he head.

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Thanks spaceman, I'm still getting over the fact that he was scummy. A glorified scumbag if you will. The movie makes him out to be decent, or justified, but in the end he never was.

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And what's worse is that his grandma wasn't as horrible as he made her out to be.

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In the end he WAS sorta decent, no? He went to jail so that his brother could be free.

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He would have gone to jail anyway; he got caught by the cops. The real decent thing to do would have been to turn himself in as soon as his brother got arrested.

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That would have been too unrealistic for his character. He changed as a result of this experience, not in a vacuum on his own.

I mean, maybe he would have grown and changed on his own over time also, but it would have been preposterous if he went from scumbag to decent human being in the span of a day.

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Is it just a day though? I had thought he definitely returned to the money at the convenience store the same day his brother was arrested, but at least twice that anchorman (a real life NYC newscaster, evidently) referred to last week’s bank robbery.

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That would not have made a substantial difference in character growth.

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Because he needed the access to that car.

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Yeah, I agree it was a very good movie. I think if he started it, he would just have to keep going or she might think something was up. He was really just a scum bag in general


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I think this entire movie was, at its core, a study of Connie’s character. I don’t think the filmmakers wanted you to walk away thinking he was a “dirt bag” or a flawed hero.

So, any scene that causes you to think harder about who he is— his strengths and his weaknesses— is arguably important. Any scene that adds complexity to his character. And this scene, as much or more than any, accomplishes that.

Also, what do you mean by “following through”? To me that would imply sex, or some kind of passionate intimacy. I don’t think his kiss lasted for more than 5-10 seconds, and he hardly seemed to care about it.

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tyboulder, he begins kissing girl in living room then brings her to bedroom. And I recall clothes start coming off right before the incorrectly rescued hospital jailee starts yelling

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I guess we interpreted it differently.

I agree with you, however, that it would be disturbing if I thought he was actually going to “go through” with that.

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It's there just to push the audience further... to test our blind faith that Connie is actually a good person, rather than being expedient...

The movie is shot primarily from his subjective perspective... we're along for the thrill ride with him.. we're so used to identifying with the misunderstood or badboy protagonist in movies as we've been trained by seeing so many movies where the badboy redeems himself... This isn't one of those movies 😎

The whole reason for casting Robert Pattison in this role is that we're used to him being this semi-dangerous, type, from playing a Vampire in Twighlight to playing a badboy son in Remember Me... The audience knows he'll be a little bad, but ultimately good... In this movie, he's a reckless, feckless, impulsive idiot, who ends up endangering his brother and the community... What is his redeeming quality? He loves his brother... Really? It's a good thing, but is that enough?

That's whats so good about this... At the end, we see the brother, Nick, in the class, telling us through the game that they are playing that he feels he was at fault... This is a key scene... Yes, it is Nick's subjective opinion, but it casts doubt over everything Connie had said to justify his actions...

I like it. It plays with our expectations...

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Great explanation, thanks

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Saw this film, which is now on Netflix, and it was actually pretty good and more entertaining than I thought it was going to be. Especially since most of the main characters were truly messed up people. But, yeah, the main character was a scumbag who would do anything to save his own a**, including taking advantage of that young underage girl, which was really disgusting on his part--even though he obviously cared about his brother, and would do anything to save him too.

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His love for his brother was his only redeeming quality, he had no problem screwing up everyone else’s day

Quite a good movie

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I agree with a lot of the reasons other people have already suggested.

I'd add that it was another opportunity. He got what he wanted by manipulating people. He could tell she was into him, so he took advantage of that - maybe it would make her more likely to give him what he wanted.

Did anyone else think he wanted to rob her ex-boyfriend's house?

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