Poor Clarence


He had a great game plan and should have stuck to it.

He's a fat guy and like he says, his family has a history of high blood pressure and his father died of it. He knows his body. But he gave in to peer pressure. Maybe he didn't want to be lit up on the forums about being "another lazy n1gg@". His team was cool towards him after he caught them that fish, but still....the peer pressure was still there.

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Or he's just severely out of shape and paid the price for it. The guy thinks he knows survival because he was homeless.

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While I don't claim to be a survivalist expert, I've watched just about all of these shows and it seems that the ones who taps out the earliest are those who over exert themselves. Especially that crazy b.tch, HONORA, who was complaining about her fatboy partner sitting around too much, while she wanted to rebuild civilization and sh.t......and of course she passes out and he makes it all the way through by sitting around in the shade when it's hot. Same goes for CRAZY SHANE, building a 2nd camp then later tapping out overexerting with the other guys....while Red and Dani sat around also during most of the day to conserve and stay out of the sun.

Clarence's game plan is this and it works well, especially for fatboys. He went against it b/c he felt bad, peer pressure, wanted to show he's a team player, etc. and he screwed himself....b/c he's a nice guy. Yes, he's a fatboy and probably eats a lot of unhealthy food. But that's a given and he can't change that right away.

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I feel as terrible as his teammates did post-fish because I initially thought he was faking with the shortness of breath. I honestly believed that he wanted to tap out but didn't want to seem like a puss so he devised a way to make it appear that it was a medical emergency. But when the medics checked his blood pressure, I knew he wasn't faking and was in danger. Shame on me for being so quick to judge.

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I thought he was over-exaggerating too. I felt bad also. I wished his team manned up and admit that they somewhat, peer pressured him into going against what he knows is best for himself, as an unhealthy, overweight person. I don't think they're @ssholes...they're nice people, but this poor guy did get screwed.

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Agreed, I really wish he had been allowed to go on with his strategy. He had no intention to catch a porcupine, heck, their plan was horrible anyway. He was just going to help, even though he was the only one who provided a catch (fish) the day before.


Not only this, but Clarence was the only one doing what they all should be doing - FISHING in the middle of the day. Use the heat of the day to be near water and try to get some fish. Use the morning and evening to do that stupid BS of trying to kill a porcupine (in 110 degree heat nonetheless!).

I really wish his partners had given him space, esp after being the only one to provide food and he was the reason they found the other water source in the first place.

Sad, I was a Clarence fan, I think his partners are to blame for his exit. Should they make it, I think they owe him some gratitude because they would have still been at that horrid "water" hole if not for him.

Huge injustice seeing him go

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I would also be careful calling someone fat and out of shape as his reasons for tapping or not being able to "survive." I dunno if you saw his 21 day challenge, but he was the only survivor that I saw who did not really eat for the entire thing.

He said it himself, his fat is what he took with to survive.

Not only that, but we are talking about 108 degree plus heat here, with a heat index probably well above that.

Take anyone of exceptional health, tell them to exert themselves in similar conditions and see what happens.

I would have liked to see him continue on, would be curious what happens if he sticks to his guns and convinces them (for a second time) to do the right thing and fish during the heat of the day

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Fat is fine but he was way out of shape and that's what cost him. He had no survival skills. Being lazy and laying on the ground is not a survival skill. His strategy with the dirty water was to not drink it, and he then got yelled at by the one woman who actually went to school in biology. His lack of common sense was alarming.

And they did do the hunt in the morning, Clarence even said it. The walk didn't do anything to hurt the others, so logic suggests his unhealthy lifestyle led to the breakdown.

Him not eating during the 21-day challenge is not something I'd brag about either. It tells me for 21 days he couldn't find any food. Pathetic.

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I completely disagree. No, before he tapped they showed the time, I believe 1:00pm, either way it was freaking 108 degrees by the time they got to where the porcupine was.

Did you see Clarence's 21 day challenge? He had a horrible partner and survived, with relative ease.

How do you know he was out of shape? That heat would get to a very fit person.

Are you forgetting that he convinced his two idiot partners to move? Without that they would be forced to tap (plus they complained up until finding the new water source).

His strategy with the dirty water was to not drink it, and he then got yelled at by the one woman who actually went to school in biology. His lack of common sense was alarming.


I wouldn't have drank piss *beep* water either, they are lucky none of them got sick. HA, I agreed with Clarence, wouldn't drink that either.

Are you forgetting that he has caught a fish and a crab thus far, and only tapped doing something he didn't want to do in the first place?

He knew his limits, they should have let him keep fishing anyway, he proved his worth doing that and it's in the water, thus he can get food for them while staying cool. They all should be fishing! Not running after porcupine in 108 degree heat

His loss is a huge blow to the group, you'll see. Like I said, his two partners owe their survival to him.

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You have to drink water. Who cares if it tastes bad? As long as it's boiled twice it's fine. You won't get sick because it's been treated, something anybody with any survival knowledge would know. The other two knew they had to move eventually (which they said) but it's hard to leave a water source.

You can disagree all you want but Clarence actually stated from his own mouth it was still the morning when they left, part of his reason for going. Laying down and not doing anything is not surviving. His terrible health led to his heat stroke, which no other cast member suffered despite taking the same hike and doing more work than Clarence once they got to the site.

The show even stated he was drinking a few cups of water each day compared to a gallon each day his partners were consuming. Obviously it caught up with him. He's no expert and he's lucky he didn't die. He's the only one to blame for his departure.

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The "water" that you speak of was little more than refuse runoff, grit, urine and obvious feces had compromised the water. Even the other two (finally) agree.

Are you seriously defending their (wrong) choice of trying to stay at the first "water" hole? Without Clarence's logic, they would have stayed.

It was morning when they left, but it takes time to walk and by the time they reached the destination where the porcupine was, or by the time they started with the smoke it had reached afternoon.

If they had left a day or two earlier, Clarence would have been drinking the gallon a day he needed and would have been fine for their unnecessary hike. I dunno if you saw or not, but he had been drinking the gallon plus since they arrived at the new water source.

You can't say what kind of "shape" he was in. heat index of 120 or so will sideline even the most experienced survivalists.

Did you watch his 21 day challenge? Obviously not

Do you agree with the idea to go hunt? They should have all been fishing. I'm just saying he was the reason they moved, even though they fought against it.

He was the only one who provided a fish.

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It's survival, you can't be picky when it comes to water. When you have a water source, no matter how dirty it is, you have to think hard before leaving it (and have a plan). They would have moved eventually with or without him. The fact you're so hung up on the dirty water shows you have no clue what you're talking about. As long as it's twice boiled it's fine. It's not compromised as the other two were drinking much more of it and were fine. Clarence put himself at risk and the group by not drinking the appropriate amount, and it caught up with him. The guy has ZERO survival training and thinks he is a survivalist because he was homeless for a little bit.

Survival is not laying on your ass doing nothing. Lasting 21 days by sitting on your butt and not eating is not survival, and it's not impressive. He was the reason his partner quit because he forced her to have her own "shelter," which was really just a pile of sticks and leaves. He didn't even know how to build a real shelter. The fact he couldn't find food in 21 days was more alarming. If he had actual training, he would have found something.

Having a little extra weight is fine but Clarence proved being out of shape is not fine. NOBODY else felt the effects from that hike except the guy who wasn't drinking enough water for the majority of their time there.

I get you liked the guy but my lord, take a look at the situation from outside your little box.

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Ha, first of all his occupation is survival instructor. Second, I doubt you could handle the 21 day challenge, you are a great arm chair survivalist. That water was not OK, I don't care how many times you boil *beep* and piss, it's still *beep* and piss. ESPECIALLY when there is a lake within walking distance. Clarence was proven to be right. Why drink *beep* and piss water when you don't have to????

He was the reason his partner quit because he forced her to have her own "shelter," which was really just a pile of sticks and leaves.


WRONG- she left because she was afraid of snakes. Not his fault she couldn't take it. Do I think they should have built an elevated shelter, yes, but he did not want/need to.

It's funny you keep saying all he's doing is sitting on his ass because that is not the case at all. If i remember correctly, in the first challenge he built 2+ shelters and was constantly gathering wood and water. If he needed food, he would have gotten it, maybe he wanted to lose some weight who knows. But he did it, and you probably could not.

PLUS, he caught a crab and a fish in this one, so how does catching a crab and a fish count as sitting on his ass? He was the first one so far in that big group to catch a fish (when they all should be fishing).

You keep saying he is out of shape. Nothing that happened proves he was out of shape, head exhaustion/dehydration is not the same as being out of shape.

My point was that it was Clarence that finally convinced his partners to move, thus saving them indirectly from a bad water source.

If "my little box" is reality then maybe you should join me. It's not his fault his partners were morons going after porcupine in the heat of the day.

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You have no clue who I am. From your posts you sound like an impulsive child who acts on emotion and not through logical thinking, just like your buddy Clarence.

She left because he refused to have a proper shelter and then "built" her a shelter of leaves and sticks on the ground. I watched the show. Maybe you should go watch it again you imbecile. All he did was pile leaves and sticks on the ground, and then crawl underneath them. That was his shelter. Pure laziness and no survival skills at all went into it.

He proved to be an absolute moron by thinking he could drink minimal water in that environment. It caught up to him. Just admit it and move on.

Again since you can't register it in your neanderthal brain: NOBODY else felt the effects from that hike except the guy who wasn't drinking enough water for the majority of their time there. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem was, especially when you look at his lack of skills and poor health.

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I agree that he should have drank more water, but I also think they should have found a better water source at first.

They still made bad decisions that were not his to own up to, that's all I'm saying. He knew his strengths and weaknesses, he shouldn't have gone on that pointless hunt.

I do not know you and you do not know me, but I'd be a better survivor

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she left because a snake crawled on her in the night, maybe you should watch the show again you cotton headed ninny muggins, not call people names like a 5 year old. 


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It's not my fault you have the thought capacity of a braindead vegetable on life support. Clarence was the one that wanted separate shelters in his first episode and refused to stay with his partner, instead falsely making her feel safe with a pile of sticks and leaves. It most definitely was his fault she left.

And your posts make it seem like you can barely survive normal life, so I doubt you'd last a day in any real survival situation. You'd refuse to drink water because it "tasted bad."

Don't want to be insulted? Don't act like a moron (I know it's tough).

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she still left because of the snakes bro. It's funny, you blame the partner for her leaving but not Clarence's partners for his leaving. hmmmm you must have something against black ppl... 

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Yes, I'm a black man who hates my own race. You caught me. Call me Tom.

My Lord, you're an idiot.

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OK TOM 

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Wow what a POS you are. Playing the race card? Really? Every single statement you made was dumb and dead wrong and you got called on it so you call him a racist. This is why America has a race problem.

I would also be careful calling someone fat and out of shape as his reasons for tapping or not being able to "survive." I dunno if you saw his 21 day challenge, but he was the only survivor that I saw who did not really eat for the entire thing.


You "dunno" is the only thing correct. Many contestants can starve themselves for 21 days and survive. This one is double that length. Even Clarence would admit he would have to eat!

Take anyone of exceptional health, tell them to exert themselves in similar conditions and see what happens.


Um, they did! The others in his group went though more activity than he did! They just were in better shape (not necessarily "exceptional"! Are you really that obtuse?

How do you know he was out of shape? That heat would get to a very fit person.


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Are you forgetting that he convinced his two idiot partners to move? Without that they would be forced to tap (plus they complained up until finding the new water source).


His two "idiot partners" are still there!

Ha, first of all his occupation is survival instructor
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No, it is not. And before his first challenge he was homeless!

I don't care how many times you boil *beep* and piss, it's still *beep* and piss. ESPECIALLY when there is a lake within walking distance. Clarence was proven to be right. Why drink *beep* and piss water when you don't have to????


No it was water that was contaminated which is cured by boiling. Clarence was not proven to be right. The water source they had was almost completely dried up so that is when they decided to take a big chance and make the move. I guess you missed that part. If they did not find water, that might have been the end of the journey for all of them. you do not take unnecessary risks like that. It became necessary when the supply was depleted. Quite frankly, Clarence was ready to give up but the other guy pushed on. He saved them.

All that said, I really like Clarence. He is a good guy and I wish he was still on the show. But I guess I am a racist also.



I would say my memory is not what it used to be. But I don't remember what my memory used to be.

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LOL woahhh someone needs to reset the "serious" button. I was joking bruh ease up! lolol 

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LOL thx for a good laugh cptn crunch it's called "sarcasm" 

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BTW, "survival instructor" is listed as his occupation on his FB page. "homeless" isn't an occupation last I checked

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Just joking? Which part? You need comedy lessons my friend. Even more than Clarence needs survival lessons. Nothing funny about the race card and people do say things like that (and mean it) all the time. Are you living in a cave next to Clarence's? Also, 3 responses? That is hilarious! And you chose the ONE thing you think you got right to send yet another response to (while ignoring the rest) Sorry, but last I checked people can list whatever the eff they want as an "occupation" on FB. But in reality, if you can't afford to um, live indoors for example, it ain't much of an occupation!

I would say my memory is not what it used to be. But I don't remember what my memory used to be.

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joking about him not liking black ppl LOL. I bet you're a riot to be around. My gf is black.. i bet you hate black ppl too  

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I am in fact, hilarious

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How is any of what you say about his partner his fault?? She's the one who was complaining and eventually left BECAUSE OF THE SNAKE(S)

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Didn't Clarence say he couldn't or wouldn't eat fish? That may have prompted them to go after a non fish food source.
Clarence's strategy of laying around and surviving off of his fat stores may have served him well in his original challenge, but was not feasible for the XL challenge length.
Regardless of how overweight they are, the ones that have a slower metabolism seem to fare better. Clarence was very out of shape and had health issues, and is not even remotely a survival expert in the traditional sense. Surviving as a homeless person is a different animal than surviving in the African bush.
Clarence admittedly doesn't do well with others- and in survival situations your best assett is another person.

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Correct-a-mundo!

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Yeah, if this show was about panhandling and dumpster diving I'm sure Clarence would thrive, but unfortunately this is a different kind of survival.

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I liked Clarence and am curious as to how he's doing now after getting so sick from heatstroke and dehydration. Anyone have an update on him?

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I would agree that you'd want to be fat and store up lots of it for such a show as this. And you shouldn't go in it being all ripped due to vanity, like the gay guy. Although he's very competent.

But Clarence's fat is probably not mostly the good kind. Black people, in general, eat lots of fried foods. Asians do too, but they drink a lot of hot tea (even in 100 degree weather) and it breaks down that grease. And him being poor and often homeless, usually means that he's not eating healthy. I don't claim to know exactly, but it's a good guess.

He even states that there's a history of high blood pressure in his family, and it's shown to be severe as that's what killed his father at an early age and he himself, could have died right there, on a TV show just now.

And in general, being that fat, is just not good at all for you. Clarence just happens to be a smart guy though and is a survivor, so he knows the balance for his body...and succeeded when he was alone the 1st time for 21 days.

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