Every race gets to be proud of who they are except white people? LA Raza and black power is perfectly fine, no one bats an eye, but if someone says white power they're automatically a racist white supremacist. Lol. Pitiful. This narrative constantly being pushed onto the masses is very old but luckily people are becoming more aware of it.
shareNo.
Every race gets to be proud of its cultural aspects.
What they do not get is the right to assume they are better than another race simply because of the colour they're born.
This works both ways, though.
For example, the big thing at the minute is "Black Lives Matter", which I feel is offensive BS - Not because people need to be told this, but because it has been made out to be a Black vs White contest and still excludes every other race.
Black lives matter... but Latino, Oriental, Indian, Arabic, Pakistani, and all the many others do not?
"You either love people from all races, or you shut the *beep* up, OK?"
Bill Hicks.
That's like complaining to the NRA that all amendments matter.
shareOr to Breast Cancer Awareness that all cancers kill... but their desperate grab for niche limelight doesn't mean they're any more important.
shareHhhm, I didn't realize that the movement's name was "black lives are more important." I guess my ears are too old to hear a dogwhistle.
shareThe insinuation is suggested by the focus on black lives, to the exclusion of other racial groups suffering the same plight, hence the Bill Hicks quote.
shareBLM is the rare double-ended dogwhistle.
If you are racist you hear "Only Black Lives Matter"
If you are not racist you hear "Black Lives Matter Too"
Also, if you read their policy positions you hear "Black Lives Matter Too."
But if you're not from the USA and only ever hear about it in the news, you see just one more group separating themselves from everyone else and demanding their Special Snowflake 15 minutes.
If you want equality you must stand as one, not as a fragmented bunch of little groups, because then everyone within those fragments will want their own special little rights sub-group.
Remember gay rights?
Now it's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender... but even then, others wanted in on the action and you now have to add Transsexual, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual, Ally, Pansexual and a whole load more.... it never stops!!
All this from people who, at the same time, insist they're no different to anyone else... Why'd they need a special acronym to recognise their rights and differentiate them, if they're not different, then!!!
So yeah - White lives rule, Black lives matter and *beep* the rest of us, right?
> But if you're not from the USA and only ever hear about it in the news
What does that have to do with anything? I've never been to a BLM protest. I only heard about them on the news and I figured it out.
> If you want equality you must stand as one,
Have you heard of reactionary colorblindness? You are doing it.
>I only heard about them on the news and I figured it out.
You probably know something about American culture that we don't, then. We assumed it was something to do with racism against blacks being ingrained in the system... but after reading about it, we were still wondering why only blacks were upset. Apparently a lot of minorities get the same treatment, but you don't hear them shouting about it so much. The implication is still therefore that they don't matter so much.
>Have you heard of reactionary colorblindness? You are doing it.
Not really, but if you say so. I assume that's yet another form of nasty, evil racism? Or just some weird pseudo-socio-politico-hippy BS whereby you argue that you're being racist by not being racist, therefore part of the oppression inherrent in The System, yes?
Yet another group wanting Special Snowflake staus, but instead using someone else's cause to shout about, because they have no problems of their own but still want to shout about something.
My generation didn't even *know* racism until we started watching American films. I had to ask my mother about Blazing Saddles, as I wasn't getting the jokes.
So having had to be taught to be a racist, I'm now being taught NOT to be a racist by that very same nation, no?
Whatever.
> Apparently a lot of minorities get the same treatment, but you don't hear them shouting about it so much.
Maybe that's because they don't have hundreds of years of oppression on them. They weren't ripped from their home countries, they didn't have their cultures, their languages, their religion, their very names stolen from them.
> The implication is still therefore that they don't matter so much.
I don't think you understand what "implication" means. The fact that a group protests inequities leveled against it is not a statement about other groups.
> My generation didn't even *know* racism until we started watching American films.
Then you must live in a completely homogenous country.
Maybe that's because they don't have hundreds of years of oppression on them. They weren't ripped from their home countries, they didn't have their cultures, their languages, their religion, their very names stolen from them.
I don't think you understand what "implication" means.
The fact that a group stands up for itself is not a statement about other groups.
Then you must live in a completely homogenous country.
> Have you not heard of The Roman Empire, then?
Utterly irrelevant to modern America. Skip the red herrings.
> Failing that, how about the Native Americans?
Still have their religion, their languages, their culture and their names. Sure they got effed over, and they deserve to be made whole. The only person saying they don't is you.
> My English isn't THAT bad
Apparently its terrible. Speakers imply, listeners conclude. Your complaint is all about the false conclusions you are drawing. Its all in your head.
> The fact that they'd label themselves as one group of numerous peoples is, by its very nature, exclusive.
That label is imposed on them by society. When society stops treating them as separate then they will stop complaining about being treated as separate.
> Not really. We just didn't look down on people who were different in appearance.
I do not believe you. That's the kind of thing someone in the majority says because they've never had to experience being in the minority. Name your country. It will take me about 2 minutes with google to find a discussion of its problems with racism.
>Utterly irrelevant to modern America. Skip the red herrings.
Not at all, especially given America's tendency toward storming in to a country and taking over in recent times.
The point is that they're not the only ones who've been oppressed. They're just making the biggest noise about it.
>Still have their religion, their languages, their culture and their names.
Those that weren't eradicated, yeah?
OK, so they have those... I'm sure that's great consolation for being forced to live on reservations and be treated like *beep*
"It's OK, we won't take EVERYTHING from you. Just half of it".... yeah, whatever.
>Sure they got effed over, and they deserve to be made whole. The only person saying they don't is you.
I'm not saying anything of the sort. Just the opposite, in fact.
>Apparently its terrible. Speakers imply, listeners conclude.
You're speaking right now - What's your implication, then?
>Your complaint is all about the false conclusions you are drawing. Its all in your head.
So these black people not only have lives that matter, but they're also able to transcend the very dynamic of the written word, now?
How are they not the ruling class with such godly powers?
>That label is imposed on them by society.
Hashtag BLACK lives matter - Their OWN choice of wording.
How is that imposed on them by society?
The fact that we're talking about any "them" means they are separate and in this case THEIR choice to use a label is what set themselves aside from everyone else, not society.
They're not about ending societal racism against people. They're about ending societal racism against black people.
>When society stops treating them as separate then they will stop complaining about being treated as separate.
They said that about women, about gays, about Catholics, about all manner of minorities... It just results in more minorities wanting their own special limelight to rant in.
>I do not believe you.
That's your problem, then.
>That's the kind of thing someone in the majority says because they've never had to experience being in the minority.
Nothing to do with minorities, although I technically am one in racial heritage terms, but I've always been simply 'Norwegian' rather than where my ancestors originally came from.
We looked down on those of lower social class all the time. Part of that is because there isn't as much of a barrier to climbing the ladder though, so it's on that person to put in the effort and elevate themselves.
We don't hate you if you're black or white or ginger or ugly or anything like that. We hate you if you're a freeloading waster who won't step up and pull your own weight.
>Name your country. It will take me about 2 minutes with google to find a discussion of its problems with racism.
Of course you can. Every country has problems.
Many of ours are brought in by immigrants of the very races now claiming they're oppressed. A big one here is European Gypsies, who roam around off the grid, claiming support without contribution, stealing off those who do contribute and then claiming everyone hates them... which to a certain extent is probably true, but more cultural rather than racial.
But very few have racism actually ingrained in society, which is what this is about. Individuals who occasionally get derided for their race by other individuals is not representative of an entire nation, whereas a demonstrable frequency of racist policies and large groups of one race freely able to persecute those of another race based only on that race is.
> You're speaking right now - What's your implication, then?
The most charitable interpretation of your words is that you are a naive racist: a member of the dominant racial group in your country. ignorant of history and modern context. Unaware of, and incurious about, the realities of the lives of people of other races.
I do not think you are naive.
The most charitable interpretation of your words is that you are a naive racist:
a member of the dominant racial group in your country.
ignorant of history and modern context.
Unaware of, and incurious about, the realities of the lives of people of other races.
I do not think you are naive.
> But what... you don't got the balls to outright say, "Tasky, I think you're a racist"?
Don't ask for an implication and then complain when you get it.
If you want to actually talk about the issues, quit it with the gish gallops.
Don't ask for an implication and then complain when you get it.
If you want to actually talk about the issues, quit it with the gish gallops.
"Task, I think you're a racist". And you are blocked.
shareOh NOOOOOOOOOO, what am I going to do now?
TBH, I don't really care.
I didn't know about racism until I was taught there's a difference and I don't care for those that insist on pointing out the differences, whether their own or someone else's. I was happier without all that crap.
Now suddenly I'm racist because I'm not racist, because I'm colourblind, because I'm racist, in spite of being not racist, which is reverse racism, which makes me racist, because I'm not racist..... or whatever was being wittered above.
I wish you and your kind all the best in your double-triple-inverse pseudo-psychological misreasonings on non-linear, non-subjective racism and other special snowflake social justice causes... I only wish you blocking me meant I didn't still stand the chance of having to wade through more of your flawed reasoning tripe, as I go about my day simply treating all people as just people... because it really is that simple when you get down to it!
Any type of racial pride is ignorant imo. What's the the point of it? Ohhh I'm so proud to be white, black, etc....... Um ok do you want a *beep* cookie?
shareThe problem with White Pride parades isn't that the participants aren't proud to be white.....they are proud that they aren't another race. They are flexing superiority in their race and heritage as if that is enough to be proud of.
" Tell me mom...when your little girl's on the slab...where will it tickle you?"
Every race gets to be proud of who they are except white people?
Do you really need to write "lol"??? Why??? Do you have a brain?
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