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Film was an insult to my intelligence


First off: this thread is not to debate whether or not racism, systemic or otherwise, exists. I do know for a fact that many people are privately racist. But that is not the issue here.

The first problem I had with this film was that it was about 30 years too late. The skinhead and militia movement was peaking around 1984 to 1992, after the KKK had become obsolete. Even back then, those groups were so littered with federal informants and agent provocateurs. The culmination of this era was Ruby Ridge, the Waco Siege, the Atlanta Stadium bombing and the bombing of Oklahoma City building.

They also showed the "skinheads" dressed in the 1980s punk fashion of Dock Martin boots and suspenders in the year 2016. I have never ever seen any young or old person in a small rural town or anywhere else dressed like that. They might as well have had the whole cast dress up in 1980s clothes.

The equivalent to this would be a movie about World War I in 1916, where instead of the villains being pickelhaube wearing Imperial Germans, the villains are Plains Indians from the 1890s, 30 years before.

There is, however, in real life, a low-class redneck criminal element that does the neo-nazi act. This is largely among bikers and others involved in dealing methamphetamines through rural America. These guys get Nazi tattoos when they go to prison for meth or meth-related violence. And many are in and out of prison as a way of life. Inmates click up by race as a way of life, and violent consequences await those who don't.

I do not like films like this because I have gay, black, and Jewish friends that are actually frightened of small town America because they are told it is full of these racist violent skinheads, and its just not true. Sure, there are plenty of ignorant, stupid, poor white people using meth and pain killers, getting in fights, getting locked up, getting knocked up, getting DUIs, and getting in domestic disputes, but they are not some organized hate mob. And a lot of the more respectable church-going people in the small towns are Christian Zionists, who are not anti-Semites at all.

I am not really sure what the main message of this film was. All it did was take a boogeyman that most people have never met, and try to make it a relevant threat to US national security. I have a hunch that whatever hate groups exist today are not only infiltrated by federal agents, but often founded by them as well. Same goes for extremist Muslims.

Again, this is not a debate about whether or not racism exists in America today, because it does. The point is that this subculture portrayed does not, in 2016. And no, the Alternative Right with its army of geeky internet trolls and its effete leaders does not count.

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It was written about true events....of course it's 30 years too late.

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i think you're a little off base. this population exists. it's FAR more dangerous to tell you friends who are frightened that they have nothing to worry about because you haven't seen it with your own two eyes. it's very real.

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I can learn a lot from a guy with a lot of intelligence.

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