I see a lot of people describing the movie as "anti-white propaganda and it makes me wonder: do they not realize the movie is based on a true story? I haven't seen the movie myself so take that for what you will, I just thought I'd point that out.
shareExorcist was marketed as "based on a true story". Based on a true story is a marketing gimmick that can be stretched infinitely thin because "based" and "true story" aren't concrete things. A movie claiming 9/11 is an inside job or that the CIA killed JFK is "based on a true story" because those events happened. Hell, you can say Independence Day is "based on a true story" of how the screenwriter felt after seeing the OKC bombing and eating pot brownies. You can make a movie praising Hitler as a compassionate misunderstood man and "base" it on a "true story" of him being a vegetarian who liked dogs and some jewish person being bad somewhere. In fact I'm pretty sure people have done that.
shareYes, many movies have stretched the "based on a true story" boundary, but this is based on the real life cases of former FBI agent Mike German, who spent years infiltrating violent groups on the radical right.
"In 1992, members of the Fourth Reich Skinheads, World Church of the Creator and White Aryan Resistance had begun amassing explosives and automatic weapons with the goal of attacking synagogues and assassinating prominent minority figures such as Rodney King, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, and rappers Public Enemy and Eazy-E. Detailed plans had been drawn up to bomb the First African Methodist Episcopal church in Los Angeles in a coordinated attack that included using pipe bombs and machine guns to slaughter the 5,000-member, mostly black congregation.
Racist Skinheads hopefully predicted that these acts would start a race war, but their plans were foiled by a young FBI agent, Michael German, who spent a year infiltrating Skinhead circles and was able to gather evidence that led to the arrest of eight suspects in 1993. Four years later, in 1997, German was undercover again. This time, he was instrumental in bringing seven members of the Washington State Militia and the Seattle-based Freemen to justice on charges of conspiring against the government and possession of destructive devices."
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2006/fbi-agent-mike-german-discusses-years-undercover-investigating-skinheads-aryans-and-more
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Motoroller hit the nail on the head regarding "based on a true story". It's an utterly meaningless marketing/propaganda term.
You also have to question the veracity of stories like Michael German's. Are the stories true? To what extent did the FBI infiltrate these groups? To what extent did the FBI infiltrators steer them towards terrorism and violence?
White nationalist terrorists are mostly theoretical. Meanwhile we have radical Islamic terrorist attacks happening on a weekly basis. Somehow the movie pretends it's the other way around and Islamic terrorists aren't the real threat; the real threat is everyday, nice, family-oriented white men!
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Motoroller hit the nail on the head regarding "based on a true story". It's an utterly meaningless marketing/propaganda term.
You also have to question the veracity of stories like Michael German's. Are the stories true? To what extent did the FBI infiltrate these groups?
To what extent did the FBI infiltrators steer them towards terrorism and violence?
White nationalist terrorists are mostly theoretical. Meanwhile we have radical Islamic terrorist attacks happening on a weekly basis. Somehow the movie pretends it's the other way around and Islamic terrorists aren't the real threat; the real threat is everyday, nice, family-oriented white men!
I obviously don't know the answer to that, but I highly doubt the FBI just picks out certain groups and applies peer pressure on them to kill people. This question you asked seems to be noting more than an excuse criminals would use to place the blame onto someone other than themselves. I don't buy into that way of thinking.
They are not just theoretical. The United States does not have radical Islamic terrorist attacks happening on a weekly basis. That is a statement blown way out of proportion. The movie was not pretending anything was the other way around. It was about white supremacy groups and their plans to start a race war. Something they have been wanting to happen for decades. There are plenty of movies about Islamic terrorism. Islamic terrorists and white supremacy terrorists are both problems that need to be dealt with.
it could be interesting if the FBI actually served to invent or exaggerate threats. I don't know if or to what degree this ever happens
Sorry, I wasn't talking about America specifically - the world (Western countries + Asia) has radical Islamic terrorist attacks happening on almost a weekly basis. Where are all the white nationalist attacks?
You are funny, but tragic... Hehe, white supremacy in Asia, maybe mostly in Russia. "radical Islamic terrorist attacks happening on almost a weekly basis" / BangMH
Anyway, there is less terrorist attacks in Europe since IRA, Basks, PLO, Israel, etc stopped killing innocent people in Europe. Get your story straight. Unfortunately it seems again that people are started killing people, because they believe in some sort of fantasy overlord in heavens. This can only happen in Islam. Oh!! It sounds like GBW, he is also talking to the higher voices.
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quoting from the SPLC; alongside the ADL the most odious anti white marxist jewish organisations in America today.
Really?
Hello. nazis are not a right wing radical group. nacional socialist are centrist group and hitler was a liberal who hates a certain group of person and he was a art student. kkk and neonazis are democrats. i'm not white. i'm from venezuela and i live in socialism and i know some history.
shareUtter nonsense. When the story says that it is based on a true story, they are talking about the domestic terrorist group, KKK, Alt Right, White Supremacists or whatever you want to call them and their agenda of white supremacy and terrorizing anyone who thinks the White Race is not a Super Human race. it is about infiltrating these groups by the FBI who have been doing it for 50 years. that is all you need to know to establish a story line. Whether or not they are vegetarians or like dogs doesn't have anything to do with the truth that they exist and they were infiltrated by the FBI and they are a terrorist group.
shareAs a white person, I cannot stand all the "anti white" complaining. I think it comes from the same place as Trump voters who are just frightened that the time of the white man controlling everyone is coming to an end and they are pissed that they won't get a free ride like their parents and scared that minority groups will revolt on them.
They could just worry about their own lives and realize that most groups and people are not full of hatred and desire to dominate others the way whites have in most of the past. I do think there may be a race war coming to America but I don't think it will be whites vs minorities but whites vs whites, the whites that believe in a world of peace and equality and the whites that are angry at anyone esse getting the rights they already have.
So now, in any movie or story, any white character being a bad guy is anti white. Any lead role given to a female or a non white male is the feminist or liberal agenda, and any cast that is not majority white is a hippie film. It's sad and pathetic and embarrassing. 35% of whites are just livid that we have a world where minorities and gays and women have rights. They want blacks back in the fields, hispanics across the border, gays in the closet and women in the kitchen. And the internet message boards give them a place to be full throated with their hatred and fear. You see it shockingly coming up with politicians and other highly visible positions, where the internet world has made them think there is enough support of bigotry to be an open bigot.
Trump voters who are just frightened that the time of the white man controlling everyone is coming to an end
They could just worry about their own lives
realize that most groups and people are not full of hatred and desire to dominate others the way whites have in most of the past
do think there may be a race war coming to America but I don't think it will be whites vs minorities but whites vs whites, the whites that believe in a world of peace and equality and the whites that are angry at anyone esse getting the rights they already have.
So now, in any movie or story, any white character being a bad guy is anti white. Any lead role given to a female or a non white male is the feminist or liberal agenda, and any cast that is not majority white is a hippie film.
35% of whites are just livid that we have a world where minorities and gays and women have rights. They want blacks back in the fields, hispanics across the border, gays in the closet and women in the kitchen.
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
I know you are but what am I.
It was for a couple hundred years. And how about Europe?
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Prove it isn't.
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"If I didn't like it, that's a plot-hole"
That is what many white people are upset about. They just want to live in peace in their own country, but they don't have a country any more; their countries have been turned into multicultural waste lands.
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
Pretty sure the US wasn't a white country - same goes for Australia as well. Actually white people have done a pretty good job of going into other countries completely uninvited and then *beep* them up...
do I need to point out the mass famines suffered in India thanks in part to colonial rule
You also seem to forget that a large number of blacks didn't exactly choose to end up in the US, their presence was due entirely to whites.
they did a pretty good job of sucking the wealth out of them in the colonial days
most white countries are very very wealthy in comparison to non white countries
US has been a predominantly white country for the last ~200 years. Nearly all races have been fighting over land throughout our history. There's no way to undo all that and arbitrate what land belongs to who.
How about the mass killings and thefts of land due to Islamic invasions of the last 1,500 years?
Entirely due to whites? It was black rulers who sold the slaves America. White men freed them and ended slavery.
Whites did a lot of good for countries during colonial days
Sucked out the wealth? What wealth and where did it go to?
Most of these countries have a lot of wealth yet, they just haven't developed it.
We work hard for it. Hundreds of millions of people working 40 hours a week.
I'm just asking for consistency here. Either white people should have lands, or nobody should lands. For some reason anti-white leftists like to hone in on all the bad things about white people in history but ignore all the bad things about everyone else, or hone in on the good things about others. Not fair. Disingenuous.
A market that existed only thanks to whites. Did whites bring black slaves to the US or not - simple question?
when colonial rule started in India it produced 20% of the entire global GDP - when colonial rule finished it produced less than 3% - sounds like it was great for the countries.
The UKs industry was built on the natural resources it took from its colonies - why do you think its industries collapsed like dominoes in the 50s?
And why do you think that is exactly?
Yeah, because every person living in a 3rd world nation sits around on their backsides all day living the easy life! I'm willing to bet that any one of those persons could do an unskilled labourers job at 40 hours a week in their sleep - I'm willing to bet not many grown white adults could eek out an existence at Stung Meanche or Mwakirunge let alone children.
I'm just asking for consistency here. Either white people should have lands, or nobody should lands.
For some reason anti-white leftists like to hone in on all the bad things about white people in history but ignore all the bad things about everyone else, or hone in on the good things about others. Not fair. Disingenuous.
You think whites invented slavery in the 17th century? Slavery had been going on in Africa for thousands of years already.
Whites ended slavery.
Statistics are great for distorting data. These numbers in an of themselves are meaningless. We need much more data to evaluate the effect of white colonialism on India (on GDP or otherwise).
For complex and multifaceted reasons.
Because they have very different cultures and they aren't too interested in developing their resources or embracing the principles of Western civilization.
Have you even been to a "3rd world nation" before and interacted with the people you're talking about?
I was involved with missionary work for a decade and the vast majority of the people we were "helping" had no interest in working any more than the bare minimum.
They were happy people - not wage slaves.
Of course they knew how to cry and put on a show when sympathetic white people came around to give them free stuff.
You don't think white adults can handle suffering? Maybe not hysterical leftists and coddled children who grew up in "safe spaces", but mature and intelligent adults certainly can. I guarantee it.
Paulski, are you a "DIGITAL MEDIA SPECIALIST" paid by corrupt leftists and wealthy Marxist globalist Jews to SHILL for the causes of "multiculturalism" and "globalism"?
I'm seeing anti-white leftists like yourself spreading virally all over the Internet. Basically, a "digital media specialist" is a paid Internet troll (and a shill) for leftist causes, and there are a LOT of them out there now.
Speaking as someone from a NON-wealthy Jewish family, I'm disgusted by the behavior and political beliefs of wealthy Marxist Jews in Hollywood, banking, and mass media.
I'm completely disgusted by the endless barrage of anti-white male PROPAGANDA that I am seeing EVERYWHERE in mainstream media and entertainment (especially over the past 5 years). And yes, this movie is anti-white propaganda.
I do not care about theoretical white racism that happened decades ago, as I live in the world of TODAY. In the world of today, there is a concentrated effort by the people who control mainstream media and popular entertainment to demonize white heterosexual Christian men.
If you've seen trailers for big budget movies, or spent any time on the Internet....then you've seen it.
Your kind will PRETEND that ANTI-WHITE, anti-heterosexual, anti-Christian, anti-male PROPAGANDA is not happening. Your kind does a lot of such things.
This movie is just more ammunition for wealthy globalist Jewish Marxists to use in their culture war against white non-Jews, because white men are the hardest group of people in the world to control.
And the men who own Hollywood and the mainstream media are all about CONTROL.
My father fought the Nazis in World War II, but civilization has more to lose in today's "soft" culture war (in the long run) than we did in WW2....because we have entire nations in Europe being overrun without a single shot being fired.
In 100 to 150 years, western Europe will not be truly European any more. These won't be white nations, and will become black and Arabic Muslim majority. I can only hope that America will be in a better place than France or Germany by then.
This is happening because white men are SOCIALLY CONDITIONED into believing that they are NAZIS for wanting to preserve their own white culture, their own white people, and their own white nations.
This is happening NOW, and not everyone will passively sit here and take it.
It's happening in America too. Even if our situation is not as bad as Europe (yet), we still have major social problems....due to widespread black crime, and unchecked illegal immigration. And also because the people who own all of Hollywood and mainstream media have CONTEMPT for non-leftist American values, and spread leftist anti-white male propaganda like a virus.
I'm an American. You're not.
You believe that white civilization should just commit mass suicide to atone for perceived past wrongs, while non-white civilizations and peoples should just receive a free pass on centuries of depravity.
I NEVER hear a white "progressive", "multicultural" leftist SJW condemn the atrocities of black and Arab Muslim civilizations. Never.
I NEVER hear a white "progressive", "multicultural" leftist SJW condemn the alarmingly high rates of murder and rape in the black American community. Never.
I NEVER hear a white "progressive", "multicultural" leftist SJW acknowledge that more whites are killed by police than blacks. NEVER.
Take note. Most "white nationalists" would barely even acknowledge me as human, due to half of my family being Jewish. I just returned from my cousins' house to celebrate Rosh Hashanah (the Jewish New Year), so most white nationalists will see me as "non-white" at best (I'm white), or a subhuman scheming parasitic monster at worst.
But at the end of the day, I am NOT worried about white nationalists. White nationalists are NOT responsible for:
* years of anti-white male propaganda (by non-religious white leftists, and wealthy Marxist Jews)
* the disintegration of the nuclear family unit
* years of black rape and black murder
* the 9-11 attacks (by Islamic terrorists)
* millions of Muslim men (of military age) invading Europe (with no resistance!)
* the Boston Marathon attacks (by Islamic terrorists)
* the rapes of Cologne, Germany (hundreds of white women raped by non-white Muslim men; Muslim "migrants")
* the mass murders in Paris, France (by Islamic terrorists)
* the mass murders in the Florida gay club massacre (by an Islamic terrorist)
* the mass murders of 147 people at a Kenyan college in 2015 (by Somalian Islamic terrorists)
I could keep going, but there's just no point.
We also have more to fear from deranged multicultural leftists who want to destroy national borders, and who see white men as over-privileged patriarchs who need to be completely emasculated for the sake of "equality". We have more to fear from deranged leftists who embrace the idea that every social problem experienced by black people is somehow the fault of "privileged" white men who magically force blacks to rape and murder in record numbers, and who magically force blacks to raise their children without a father.
We have more to fear from deranged Muslims....who rape, murder, and exploit national resources, while refusing to assimilate to the host nations that provide for them.
So honestly, enough.
Enough of the anti-white propaganda.
I think the Indians were here first. By the way, those lazy people in third world countries you have such contempt for are often forced into essentially slave labor where they work for pennies an hour to produce your hero Trump's sales items--just look at the tags and see where they're made. Also, intelligent adults don't believe in talking snakes and people living inside whales like most missionaries do, but then they're more interested in pushing your beliefs on others, and I can see how a bullying assh*le like you would flourish in such work. Now take a break from posting your long propaganda pieces and take your white sheet to the cleaners.
shareDoes being somewhere first really matter? The natives fought among each other for thousands of years before the white man arrived. Who knows who truly was here first. If you go far enough back, the bacteria and single-celled organisms were here first. Countless species have gone extinct just so humans could evolve and now we think we own the planet?
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Yes it does matter, you complete f cking idiot. You have destroyed your own argument and with your pathetic whining you are making yourself look stupid
shareThen we'd better all kill ourselves and give North America back to the deer and buffalo. You go first.
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Wow!
Claims white countries should be for white people and then writes this!
Does being somewhere first really matter? The natives fought among each other for thousands of years before the white man arrived. Who knows who truly was here first.
You've just destroyed your own argument! That's a special type of stupid.
You have an interesting point of view, do you have any sources in particular to your claims:
Hahahahahaha - I love it when someone tries and makes this argument - when colonial rule started in India it produced 20% of the entire global GDP - when colonial rule finished it produced less than 3% - sounds like it was great for the countries. Other than stealing all their natural resources, the mass starvation leading to deaths way in excess of the holocaust, the destruction of their culture and systems of rule - but yeah apart from all of the stealing of wealth and death it was great! I'm just disappointed you didn't mention something as mindless as 'we did give them the railways'!
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The UKs industry was built on the natural resources it took from its colonies - why do you think its industries collapsed like dominoes in the 50s?
It's maybe a sad addendum, but I am genuinely interested in reading more about your point of view, I am not dissing you or anything.
Yeah sure - with regards to GDP
"During the 1700s South Asia collectively produced $90,750 million, of the world's $371,058 million (24.46%), the largest regional contribution in the world"
Kumar, Dharma and Meghnad Desai, eds. The Cambridge Economic History of India: Volume 2, c.1751-c.1970 (1983).
"There is no doubt that our grievances against the British Empire had a sound basis. As the painstaking statistical work of the Cambridge historian Angus Maddison has shown, India's share of world income collapsed from 22.6% in 1700, almost equal to Europe's share of 23.3% at that time, to as low as 3.8% in 1952. Indeed, at the beginning of the 20th century, "the brightest jewel in the British Crown" was the poorest country in the world in terms of per capita income."
— Manmohan Singh http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/10/stories/2005071002301000.htm
As for UK industries reliance on the colonies,
"The loss of India required a re-positioning of the British empire in Africa and the Middle East as part of a second colonial occupation which was intended to provide imports of raw material and foodstuffs that were so essential to British Industry and its economy. "
Hopkins, A.G. (2008) ‘Rethinking Decolonization’, Past and Present, No. 200 (August), pp.211-247.
After the loss of India British trade lost both a substantial maket (in the 1800s 20% of all British exports were to India) and a cheap source of raw materials such as cotton, jute, rubber, silk, textiles, minerals and ore.
India accounted for half of Britain's cotton exports, but as part of his campaign for Indian independence, Gandhi called for a boycott of imported Lancashire cotton.
The boycott had devastating affects on Lancashire and in Blackburn, with 74 mills closing in less than four years, by 1958 the UK was a net importer of cotton.
There were clearly other factors at play here (the two great wars likely being first and foremost) but this notion that "Whites did a lot of good for countries during colonial days" is patently false.
Anti-white agenda in government and media is a real thing if you look at the people pushing for it, they admit it, they just don't phrase it that way, they spin it as a progressive thing. The fact that you're conditioned to say Trump supporters are white supremacists and have no other beliefs, and can get away with saying that without being called a racist, doesn't that seem at all like bias?
How can you say people should worry about their own lives when doing so is considered an act of white supremacy?
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"If I wasn't paying attention, that's a plot-hole"
"If I didn't like it, that's a plot-hole"
lol anti white propaganda...must *beep* hurt to loose that white privilege. i'm really sorry. NOT.
if you are so insecure about your life better do some therapy and finish school. don't blame your *beep* life on others. poor effin victim.
You didn't make an argument you just whine about imaginary debunked things, showing that you're a racist, end of story.
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"If I wasn't paying attention, that's a plot-hole"
"If I didn't like it, that's a plot-hole"
These people are racist, plain and simple.
There's a movie that's anti white supremacist and they conflate that with being anti-white.
Exactly. I would have thought that a movie opposing violent white supremacists would be fairly uncontroversial, but we seem to be living in interesting times.
"You can't handle the post-truth!"
Racist is what happens when white people say they want to exist in the future.
Diversity is when the state mandates that must not be allowed to happen.
If racist was a real word it would have a much wider range of application. Instead, racist just means a white person who isn't 100 % full of self-loathing and guilt.
So always wear that badge with pride. Eventually people will realize they are pushing for uniformity, not diversity.
Thank you for this thread! I have now blocked 4 more racists and will never have to see their hatred again.
shareThe only anti white thing I could think of is when they said white civilization and just showed invasion and destruction of nature, thats abit offensive as it makes out that all white people are bad and that white people have brought nothing but negatives to human civilization. other than those few seconds it wasn't really offensive or anti white imo.
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