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"From visionary director" WTF? Is this a joke?


Since when is Gore Verbinsky considered a visionary? Check out his track record, this guy is as mundane as they come.

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Yeah his filmography isn't really something noteworthy. Rango was excellent though so I guess his oscar win was the reason for the "visionary" quote.

Zach Snyder was also called visionary in one of the trailers for Watchmen. I guess the marketing team thinks that when a director is known for his eye for visuals he deserves a "visionary" title.

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The Ring but thats kinda it if I'm gonna be honest.

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He's got an eye for visual effects and spectacle. I like his movies but yea that's too glossy a description.

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Gore Verbinski is a visionary director. Set whether you LIKED the movies aside.

When you look at his films, especially the Pirate movies, the visuals is what are what grabs you, and in the trailer, the visuals grab you here. So if he is concentrating more on those, which it looks as though they are, it is not a stretch to give him that moniker at all. Believe you me, the first Pirates had stunning visuals, lighting. The second and third had them but were too over run by "CGI". The Ring, yep visuals were there as well as The Mexican and The Weatherman (And I really wasn't thrilled over those films, but they had wonderful film making elements in them. Many...have been copied and used in other films.

Since Verbinski made them 'commercial' yeah, the tag line is not a stretch for me. And it's telling you for this film, he'd relied heavily on elements that have worked for him.

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Maybe you were born in 2010... but with his debut with the remake of The Ring, set the bar for horror in the new millennium and beyond with his unique stylings of colour and composition. And it scared the *beep* outta people too, great cult horror. But yes, sadly after that... nothing but popcorn and a nice CG kids film. But make no mistake his version was not merely riding the Japanese style of the original, his first film is distinct and iconic.

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Everybody is "visionary" and everything is "spellbounding" when it comes to Hollywood. Oh, and "critics" agree.

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Visionary doesn't mean you liked all his films. Gore Verbinksi *is* a visionary. The man can frame a shot like few others in the business. Even the POTC films have moments of beauty in them(rare for blockbuster affair). His films, all of them, are stunning to look at. The production design, music, editing and cinematography are always consistent. Are the scripts always the best? No. But Verbinski always brings his "A" game and makes beautiful looking films. He's a great director who just needs the right script. Visionary doesn't mean "always gets a fresh rating on Rotten tomatoes". It means he has a unique style that separates him from the pack. When you hire Gore Verbinksi your film will look and feel a certain way. It's not a cookie cutter, generic or bland looking film that any old Joe with a camera can do. Zack Snyder is also a visionary even though a lot of people can't stand his films. The guy has a style. It doesn't mean "universal appeal".

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It just pisses me off when people don't get it and I rarely see intelligence on this website lol I was shocked.

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A visionary is someone that is a leader in their field because their ideas are original and transformative. IMO, Verbinski can put together slick visuals that are aesthetically appealing, which is certainly worthy of merit, but it doesn't qualify as visionary.

Examples of visionaries: Lars von Trier, Terrence Malick, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Quentin Tarantino, George Lucas, James Cameron, Wes Anderson, Hayao Miyazaki.

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Exactly. Having a good eye or making a movie visually appealing or even stunning is not the definition of being a visionary. Please people, check a dictionary.

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While you could call each those directors you named "visionary" the term you are actually describing is an auteur filmmaker. Calling a filmmaker a visionary is like calling an artist a "genius". This is a very subjective thing since that's what art is. Verbinski is definitely a visionary when it comes to filmmaking. Movies like Rango and the POTC have advanced the field of CGI and animation.

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Auteur and visionary. As far as filmmaking goes, I think the terms are somewhat interchangeable. A visionary acts with a sense of purpose and has fresh ideas that challenge the status quo. To be a visionary means going beyond surface and stylistic flourishes. Being a visionary is not about eyesight or crafting beautiful images. The vision in visionary is metaphorical. A visionary is someone that is on the vanguard and ahead of their time (i.e. they are someone that sees into the future).

From Oxford Online Dictionary:
visionary • NOUN
A person with original ideas about what the future will or could be like:
‘he is a visionary keen on policy-making’

If you're arguing that Verbinski is a visionary for making technical advancements in filmmaking, then I think that is debatable too. Other directors have done more on that front: Cameron, Jackson, Lucas, Zemeckis, The Wachowskis, would be some obvious examples.

IMO, Verbinski is a competent director. Like many directors who got their start in music videos, Verbinski knows how to frame a shot. However, there is nothing particularly standout or "visionary" about him. Just my two cents.

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What?

Verbinski's movies have creative visual style and camerawork. Shankman, on the other hand, is a standard point-and-shoot journeyman director (though I'll admit I've enjoyed some of his films). Bedtime Stories is the only film I've seen Shankman try to be unique with visuals and camerawork.





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