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What Crimson Peak wanted to be (Spoilers)


Just saw an early screening and it was so Darned good. Couldn't help notice a lot of similarities between this and Crimson Peak. Style to spare, similar metaphors between violence against animals in parallel to the plots, and a lot of references to older movies.

Crimson Peak, although beautiful, failed to evoke much emotion. It referenced the style and tone of a lot of older movies (Hammer and early Universal films in particular) but it never really became anything special. The big gross incest-y twist at the end was predictable and not as disturbing as intended and the whole thing ended up being a beautiful mess.

A Cure for Wellness payed homage to very specific older/oldish films (Eyes Wide Shut and the original House of Wax come to mind) and managed to blend all of its ingredients into something special and (more importantly) completely original. There's never been another film like A Cure for Wellness. It's mix of cringy violence, a European sensibility about casual nudity and sexuality, and a wonderfully weird tone has maybe given us our best film of the year. Also the incest-y twist at the end worked MILES better than Crimson's Peak's by actually being horrifying.

Darn good movie.

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Crimson Peak came to mind for me too. I hated them both.

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that's too bad. You can tell they were passion projects for both directors. And since their visions are so singular, it only makes sense that they would appeal very strongly to some people and not work at all for others. Crimson Peak didn't really work for me either.

I loved A Cure for Wellness though. I'm not going to forget it. Especially since I can't help but compare it to the free screening I saw of RINGS two days ago which was a complete pile of horsesh##. Verbinski's really got a magic touch.

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It also reminded me of The Cell. All style.

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I thought it was an interesting film. How everything was put together is just mesmerizing, in particular the visuals, if a bit meandering in the middle. Also, for a puzzler, it is not as complex as it thinks it is, which will definitely test audiences when it comes out.

I do have a few questions for you all, though. Yes, I watched the film, just seeking confirmation/clarification for a few issues that, amid the horror and madness, I may have missed or misinterpreted.

(Spoiler warning is already in the title, but I'll just put it here anyway).

1. So the villagers just killed the baroness and *severely injured* the baron? I thought the tale said that both were dead?

2. The cure - it's to extend life, I get that. From *what I gather*, the extract from the old people is only a few years "worth," but more is extracted from Lockhart since he is young. Is this why the doctor said to Hannah that Lockhart is "all that I needed?"

3. The eels - they go into your body, do heaven knows what and generate the extract? This goes on until your body dries out and is then dumped, I believe.

4. Pembroke and the Indian - we saw them dead, but then they come back. What is going on?

5. How do you interpret Lockhart's smile at the end? Did it suggest that he has gone through so much/seen so much during his stay that he became jaded (which to him, means "feeling better")? I kind of like how it leaves this part up to interpretation.

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I'm already forgetting most of this because I didn't care for it, but here goes

SPOILERS AHEAD

1. I just remember the quick cut to the picture of the baronnes being set on fire. I know the baby was cut out and tossed in the magic water. My guess is the baron was severely burned, as we see from the face transplants, but survived on the serum?

2. I don't remember hearing that line. My guess is the younger donor could have more effective juice? I just assumed the whole delay with Hannah having her daddy's baby was the delayed puberty, which was caused by her life being artificially elongated from the eel juice extractions? It took her 200 years to reach puberty!

3. Exactly my thoughts. Remember at the beginning when he first drinks the water and there is a pupal version of the eel in it? That and the repeated treatments, tube down throat, would finally overwhelm the body resulting in tooth loss and finally anemia and death.

4. Didn't we just see them in suspended animation in that water tank, before we saw them alive again? I think that suspended animation tank was where they went to recover from the iron lung tube down throats machines. You only saw someone dead once they were wheeled to that lair under the burned down church.

5. This is just my interpretation. Firstly it seemed almost the smile of a maniac. He had seen so much. A smile of someone who just escaped horrors. But, I read a bit more into it. He is still full of eels, he has tasted Hannah's eel juice at the bar in town. He was a very aggressive type A personality.. Could he be considering eternal life? He has the know how and the 200 year old child bride also.

Wow, even writing about this plot sounds as goofy as the final product. Let me know what your thoughts are.

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this is pretty much what I got out of it too

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Weeks later, I'm still trying to figure out #5. Did he have all his teeth? I can't remember. Does that mean anything?

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why was the girl bleeding in the pool and earlier her stomach was hurting?

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