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Anybody think the cast was on the heavy side?


I was surprise how many over weight cast members there were. Even the poppy dancers were thick.

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Compared to Diana and Michael's pencil-thin look in '78, you also have to look at how old these castmembers are.

Latifah, Neyo, Grier, none are known for ever having been thin.

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I live in the Midwest. If I step outdoors and look around at people, the cast of The Wiz looks like supermodels.

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Not at all. I thought everyone looked normal. Amber Riley is heavy but who cares. She was a highlight. Her, Auntie Em, and Tin Man stood out. And the fierce woman in the Emerald City.

Latifah and the rapper at the gate stunk. Although nce Latifah was out of the costume she improved greatly. And Blige was a surprise. She was giving me Wicked Witch.

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Yes, OP, I agree with you. It's doesn't matter how cast mates look compared to people on the street, this is an art performance. And art in part includes beauty. The cast needs to be visually appealing -- and more than average people since they are in the spotlight and commanding the attention of millions.

Most looked lovely still, but of course extra pounds detract and distract.

And it wasn't just Amber Riley, most of the cast was overweight including the lead newcomer playing Dorothy. They had time to slim down and didn't.

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extra pounds detract and distract.
Only for individuals with small superficial minds. While I can agree with the OP that some of the cast (but NONE of the poppy dancers) were on the heavy side, it didn't detract or distract me at all from the performance.

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Only for individuals with small superficial minds. While I can agree with the OP that some of the cast (but NONE of the poppy dancers) were on the heavy side, it didn't detract or distract me at all from the performance.


Absolutely not. Spoken as someone who doesn't know art and is dismissing that this is a visual realm. Beauty is one of the pillars of the art world. Symmetry, balance, and visual appeal all contribute to beauty, not sloppy, bloating bulging physical statures. Line and form have always been anchors in art and they always will be. SMH. LOL at the weak nonsensical argument. This isn't radio, darling.



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I can tell you know little about art, because art isn't about "beauty" or painting a pretty picture. And physical attractiveness certainly isn't the "anchor" of any art form.

I majored in liberal arts, and a great part of my degree was the humanities, music, art, literature etc and I can tell you it's the meaning behind the art, the technique, that gives it meaning. It's not whether someone fits neatly into society's standard of beauty. The actors are not there for your personal or visual titillation. If you appreciate art, then you appreciate the performance, not whether or not someone is attractive enough to arouse you.

If we lived in a society where "bulging" features were a standard of beauty, then someone like you would have found the actors to be the most beautiful creatures you have ever seen or too skinny for your tastes. But you have been programmed to associate thinness with beauty, therefore, you find the actors unattractive because they are not as rail thin as you would like them to be. You simply lack the constitution to appreciate the performers for their talent, because you are unable to transcend the way you have been conditioned, socially.

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Tell that!! Thumbs up!

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@RomanceNovelist... Well said!! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and has little to do with art.

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Beauty is one of the pillars of the art world. Symmetry, balance, and visual appeal all contribute to beauty, not sloppy, bloating bulging physical statures. Line and form have always been anchors in art and they always will be.

Do you mean like the models and subjects of:
Peter Paul Rubens
Edouard Manet
Pierre-August Renoir
Titian

And any number of other, well-known and celebrated artists. Not to mention the art of pre-historic times, such as the “Venus of Willendor" from 15000-30000 yrs ago. And that's just European art.

"Line and form" and "bulging physical statures" are not mutually exclusive. When it comes to art, Darling, stick figures, figuratively of course, are an exceedingly recent depiction.

Spoken as someone who doesn't know art...

Said someone who has just demonstrated their abject ignorance of art.

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It's sad that this even has to be pointed out to Synthia7 and the likes of people who think that way. But this says more about her own insecurities. I imagine the subject of her weight was a constant dinner conversation. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

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@ RomanceNovelist... Thank you. So well said!

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You are exactly the reason why we'll never have another Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, James Brown or maybe why an Adele would never stand a chance in a world where people need to "look" a certain way or wear a certain size. I prefer an overweight, blind, or physically defected singer to the Katy Perrys, Gagas, or any of these "attractive" MARGINALLY talented stars.

You could not be more shallow and stupid. When I listen to my mp3, I can't see the singers. I only care what they sound like. When I watch a movie, I only care about the performance. That is the only aesthetic I need to worry about.

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I thought Dorothy was adorable and took no notice of the weight of anyone. Mostly because I was watching a family musical and not a porno. Sex appeal wasn't at the top of my list of things to be on the lookout for.

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Well said. . .

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"The heavy side"? .... Really? They were fat!

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Loving this debate and lol ing. I read it in the voice of my fa
V artsy movie Fame. I was waiting for someone to counter the darker the berry the sweeter the juice with Yes, but who wants diabetes my dear?

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Seriously, who the hell cares? I didn't even notice anything about anyone's size in the program. Why are you even all hung up on that anyway? Everybody in the whole world does not have to be rail-thin to be nice-looking. I also don't consider someone looking like a skeletal stick size 2 with skin damn near hanging off their bones attractive (which is what society has brainwashed everyone into thinking is the only way to be attractive,which is sad into itself.) If you watch the whole thing, and that's all you have to say about it, that's pretty sad. Especially because it was such a damn good program.

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I was surprise how many over weight cast members there were. Even the poppy dancers were thick.


i appreciated seeing people of different body sizes.


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I can tell you know little about art, because art isn't about "beauty" or painting a pretty picture. And physical attractiveness certainly isn't the "anchor" of any art form.

I majored in liberal arts, and a great part of my degree was the humanities, music, art, literature etc and I can tell you it's the meaning behind the art, the technique, that gives it meaning. It's not whether someone fits neatly into society's standard of beauty. The actors are not there for your personal or visual titillation. If you appreciate art, then you appreciate the performance, not whether or not someone is attractive enough to arouse you.

If we lived in a society where "bulging" features were a standard of beauty, then someone like you would have found the actors to be the most beautiful creatures you have ever seen or too skinny for your tastes. But you have been programmed to associate thinness with beauty, therefore, you find the actors unattractive because they are not as rail thin as you would like them to be. You simply lack the constitution to appreciate the performers for their talent, because you are unable to transcend the way you have been conditioned, socially.



Thank you for spreading your knowledge!!!

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The only surprising thing is how poorly you write. Anyone healthy enough to put on a stage show should not be judged by their clothing size.

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