Andrew - MAJOR SPOILERS


I will be the first to admit I love extreme horror films as well as ALL types of films in general. This movie was very strong: intense, well-acted, well-paced, well-photographed, well-everything. Splendid work. I love Joel Edgerton and can't wait to see more from him.

However, as a mother of a 4-year-old boy, I simply could not get past the killing of the baby. Especially (I think?) when the little boy was not even sick in the first place (wasn't Travis the one who was infected all along?). It made me physically sick to my stomach, especially hearing the young mother's devastating anguish and seeing his father fighting back so hard for all their lives. I'm well aware that this strong reaction I'm having was the director's intention, and I respect his art. However, I don't think I can ever watch this again, simply because of this. Just my own opinion, I don't disparage anyone else who liked this, because I really, really did, too.

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I knew the family would be killed from the beginning

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I guess I did, too. I was just not .... ready for such an intense, intense, horrific massacre. I was honestly hoping he would die peacefully off camera, I know this makes me look like an idiot.

Sigh.

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I hear you but it was a horror after all

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A very good one, at that.

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that we agree on

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Absolutely! No hate here for the movie in any way. It was wonderfully nuanced and crafted. And it DEFINITELY achieved the reaction it wanted lol!

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welcome to the forum btw

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Lol thank you. I actually signed up because this film made me have such a strong reaction that I just HAD to get that out! So that's definitely to its credit :)

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Also wanted to ask your opinion about who was infected and who wasn't and when??

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It is really open to interpretation. Some people think Travis was infected all along and he infected everyone else including the dog.

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That's what I took away from it as well. Very sad, despite the families both being decent and well-intentioned, it was all in vain.

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The horror movies with no children dying tend to annoy me. I mean sure when its happening in a place where there are no children, fine, but when children are present and somehow magically none of them get hurt (which we know is intentional not to upset the sensitive viewers) yeah its bugs me. I like it when the makers dare to go there.

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haha same here

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This is not a horror film. Its far too boring and far too little happened to label it that. There are so many problems with this but one of the big ones is we don't know who made who sick in the end. Nor do we know anything about the plague itself to even come to the conclusion that only contact with the infected can make you sick.

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I know what you mean. I didn't get as strong reactions as you from the act of killing the boy, but I felt a similar way about a movie I saw in the mid-90s called Heavenly Creatures where a girl kills her mother with a brick to the head. It was a sick disturbing scene and I never have any intentions of rewatching that, although it's still embedded in my mind.

Anyway, I think the ICAN scene would've invoked a stronger feeling if we had have known absolutely at that point that Travis was sick, and that Andrew was fine. The viewer, being tricked into thinking that Andrew was sick, might have justified his shooting as a quick death in the face of the inevitable. But it's ambiguous and I think a bit of a cop out as a it doesn't invoke as much of a set of strong feelings of injustice and horror as it could've.

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My interpretation is that Andrew was sick and infected Travis. The reasons I think this are because of the conversation Travis overheard between Will and Kim about Paul and Sarah hearing Andrew's moans and crying (due to him suffering) and the fact that Will made a point several times to tell Andrew to keep his eyes shut when he had Paul at gunpoint. At first I thought he just did not want Andrew to see him shoot Paul, but I now think he did not want Paul to see that Andrew's eyes were black due to the sickness. If he were not sick it would have been easy enough to prove, just let Paul have a look at him while he had the gun on him. Show Paul that his eyes are not black and he's not puking up motor oil. He was sick and Will (correctly) thought if he let Paul see that Paul would kill him without thinking twice.

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That was one of my favorite parts of the film - wondering whether he didn't want him to see his "sick eyes" or he just didn't want to expose his son to a potentially emotionally scarring situation of (if he wasn't sick) madness from paranoia. Did Travis catch it from Andrew, Grandpa, or just on his own out in the woods?

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I believe Travis got it from Andrew personally. He did not show any symptoms until after Andrew did (assuming Andrew was indeed sick) and I seem to remember it being mentioned that symptoms showed up within 24 hours of being exposed but I could be wrong about that.

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Yes it is a very said scene, but the kid was indeed sick. That's why they knew they had to leave.

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But Andrew WAS sick AND infected Travis. He was already dead (if anything, I'd argue it was an accidental mercy killing on Paul's part). I too entertained the idea of Travis being the first to catch the sickness (remember his recurring insomnia? Maybe HE did the sleepwalking and found Stanley before waking up and stumbling upon Andrew.), but it makes no sense Andrew's manifested symptoms before him.

TL;DR Andrew was sick, that much we know. That's why both his parents keep blocking him out of view and were so eager to leave.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you. This film had an inevitable plot and a devastating conclusion. The first movie I saw where both sides were actually good guys fighting each other to save their loved ones. In the end, Paul's family unfortunately succeeds. And the paralyzing ending.....watching that mother scream and cry as her son is killed right in front of her. I don't think I can ever get that scene off my soul. I don't think any mother should ever watch this.

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You read too much into the puddle-deep plot which offers absolutely nothing. But I agree, no mother, err... I mean absolutely no one ever should watch this junk.

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