You will know what I mean when you get there. Eewwwwwwwww.
And why???
Unsee please let me unsee.
How about some spoilers so we don't waste our time watching a waste of time?
What's so gross? More cock shots? More anti male anti white shows staring white males?
Everything else produced for the 2016 fall line up sure seems to be going that way... just offering even more evidence of a corrupted establishment pulling all the strings in hollywood and the MSM in order to promote hate and divide humans against themselves (so they won't unite against said corporate establishments at their weakest moment--now, during a failing economy)
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When William Hurt's character "seduces" the young associate, Lucy. That was gross; and not just because of him but because he basically trips the alarm and then traps her into his office and then introduces himself inappropriately. If you disagree, let me know. It's also blatent sexual harassment violation right at the workplace and he probably has it all recorded to watch later. The law firm is over-the-top in this show. It's one thing for little to take on big and good vs. evil, but this is like two different shows.
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well, u can. just dont get caught :P
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http://mooviestats.com/johhnyy/tv/2016/
Aw, it's so cute how you're a rapist.
shareI am? :O
http://trakt.tv/users/pedro
http://mooviestats.com/johhnyy/tv/2016/
Legally? Yes.
These posts for instance, could be used against you in a court of law. Deleting them wont help because IMDB most likely has back ups of everything for legal reasons.
If you were just being funny, I hope it was worth it. Stay out of trouble son.
Just what the world needs. Another male sexual predator. If only you were uncommon...
shareGranted what he said is stupid but your rapist comment is way over the line and is exactly the kind of harmful over reaction that creates issues for women and men in the work place that are harmed.
I get that you are angry or at least want to come across as angry and righteous but nothing he said is rapist level comments.
Is he stupid? yeah- crass? certainly- juvenile, insensitive, ridiculous all that but based on the comment he made and your follow on claim of him being a rapist is just as stupid and crass. Just stating the facts.
I bet you are a real treat to be around.
Yeah, like it's my goal in life to be "a treat" to be around. You think my comment is over the top, whatever. I'm done trying to be nice to males who even joke about abusing women. It's been socially acceptable and even encouraged by other males for far too long. So, you know, feel free to tell women to step off if they've gone overboard. Don't be surprised if they don't, though. Males sure haven't.
shareIf you have to resort to trapping them, got to work on your A game a little.
“The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it”-George Orwell
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You just need to make more money, and dress better, and drive a nicer car.
"I had my time where I wondered if this was all in my head. That time passed". - Rustin Cohle
You are quite the snowflake
shareThe law firm is over-the-top in this show. It's one thing for little to take on big and good vs. evil, but this is like two different shows.
A judge who rules because he owes his position to influence by Cooperman is, indeed "bought."
"I also love that Billy Bob included his costar from Sling Blade, Dwight Yoakum. Billy Bob is reported to have said, about casting him in that film: "I knew Dwight would be a good actor." "
I also loved seeing Jason Ritter. Thinking fondly of John Ritter in "Bad Santa"
Billy Bob and Dwight, own a Production company together, so that's always handy.
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Yeah, that whole scene pushed suspension of disbelief way too far. So completely unrealistic that it only succeeded in being comical.
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I am not sure it was a total seduction. I think she wanted him and was attracted to him and fell in love with him. While the incident was certainly far fetched I have seen many women use a lot of sexuality in the work place to get their way. Maybe it is a big city thing but the idea that all women who enter in to a sexual affair with a boss or senior member of a company are poor little lambs who are being taken advantage of is a bit 1992.
Take out the far fetched alarm and elevator etc and put her in a room with him with her ambition and there is no harassment.
I think companies need to do a better job with sexual harassment training. Too many seem to think that if A happens and B follows then that equals SA. It doesn't.
In my company there are some extremely dominant and strong women, highly educated and strong and I think many people would be surprised at what women do in the work place.
A think a couple of things ring true-
Bob the handsome young intern will for many reasons never have a SA suit filed or alleged.
Tom the sloppy guy at the bottom of the sales force can say hi Pam nice dress and off Pam goes to HR where she is quickly squared away and set straight on what constitutes a SA case.
George the COO who is mildly handsome gets a bit of flirting from Denise and hits her up and she sees a benefit and he sees a benefit and her job is not risked or ruined because of it- no chance of a suit.
We recently had a very high profile trial here in SF Silicon Valley area. I read the initial complaint from her and thought well that company is going to lose a ton of money. One of the lawyers on my staff wouldn't give an opinion only said it isn't nearly as easy as you think and she was clearly not hopeful for this lady's case and sure enough without dirty tricks and by all accounts a fair trial it was shown that she was not an innocent victim.
The problem with some of these issue is there are a ton of women truly hurt by sexual harassment and I have seen a good deal of victories that I think were very justified and I am glad she won. However, I also see them lose and it is a sad day for justice and the woman.
To be clear- doing that to a woman or a man for that matter is a nasty horrible thing and I am always glad to see victory when someone has been truly and systematically harmed. It is always wrong. Just not always as clear cut and with strong women in the work place things get interesting- quick way to wreck a company's morale and do harm to the hard work of a lot of good people.
It's Donald.
shareI thought you were talking about the fish guts on the Mustang.
shareThe thread title made me think there was a sex scene with scat involved. You're easily grossed out, aren't you?
shareThe fish guts were better than the William Hurt scene! Nobody needs to be subjected to decrepit junk. Good grief! In these sex scenes the women are always nubile and the men are 100 years older and rancid. Yeah, that was gross on multiple levels. Rather trumpish.
shareWhat I'm getting from looking at this thread, not surprisingly, is that the men think it's cool an old man trapped a woman in an office and exposed himself, and the women think it's gross. Men gotta take notice of this, right? What women think is a turnoff? Could be helpful in future, just sayin'.
“The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it”-George Orwell
I don't believe anyone believes it's cool, no. When's the last time you heard, 'that old guy who trapped women in his office? Total badass.' Though, not outside the realm of possibility.
His gumption was admirable however, to be sure. A hunk with confidence.
Wait, Janet. So does 'no' mean 'no' or does 'no' mean 'yes?' Or was it 'yes' means 'no'? Sigh. Semantics.
If you have to resort to trapping them, got to work on your A game a little.
Legally, he would. Are you suggesting that immoral and illegal is 'technical' here? You should relocate to the Middle East, where that behavior towards women won't land you in jail. Enjoy the burquas.
“The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it”-George Orwell
No. No, I'm not suggesting that at all. We were talking about ludicrous, hypothetical scenarios wherein old men trap women in their office, I believe.
I was saying, 'technically' (in keeping with the long-standing IMDB trend of snarkily putting things in quotes), he wouldn't have to work on his 'A game', given that it's an automatic check mate. Albeit forced and lecherous.
Mkay
“The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it”-George Orwell
What I am getting is you missed the whole part where she could have told him to GTF away from her, she said she loved him and she clearly wasn't a victim in this. Or maybe since you mentioned the old man part, it is true that if the guy is handsome and the chick digs him it is perfectly ok.
Which is it? Was she a career climbing woman who was clearly in to the old fart of a victim? Or are you one of those women who sees all women as victim and never a woman who is very capable of telling him to piss off and may very well whip his a$$?
I personally prefer the latter- one that if she wants to sleep with the old man boss fine but if she doesn't she can handle herself. Maybe I am spoiled because I work with a lot of solid amazing and strong women.
Not all women are weak victims, many are able to stand their ground and take care of themselves. She was strong and more than a bit crazy herself they deserved each other.
If she was truly victimized if she was assaulted then I am all for justice for the woman but there is not 1 inch of victim in that woman. Not every time a man takes his clothes off is there a lawsuit in the mix.
In short, he was insane and a megalomaniac and she was a troubled, demanding nasty woman who crapped all over her coworkers and she pretty much is him in the female form.
Oh god had to toss in Trump- leftist completely ignore rap musicians at white house and their horrid lyrics. Billy Jeff Clinton sexually assaulting women.
I can't imagine the leftist or the right wingers doing anything to wreck their credibility more then they already have and then BAM one of them jumps out like a roach and tosses out a political reference where one isn't appropriate or needed.
You say Trumpish I say Billy Jeffish so let's call the whole thing off.
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I'm about to start watching this show, wanted to check the boards. That said, im willing to bet my left nut and 100 bucks and say there's a 90% chance what OP is complaining about isn't even sexual harassment. But we'll see.
It's hard to tell these days when people think saying things like "Hey, wanna get some coffee with me?" is sexual harassment. We shall see.
You just lost your left nut and 100 bucks. There are several cases of harassment's in the series that would leave even the Trump's HR organization to cringe and go look for a new job.
shareNot quite.
As the bet was in regards to the scene mentioned above, the scene in which made the OP make a post about.
"When William Hurt's character "seduces" the young associate, Lucy. That was gross; and not just because of him but because he basically trips the alarm and then traps her into his office and then introduces himself inappropriately"
That scene that OP references goes beyond sexual harrassment. Give up your nut.
shareOh hey I was right, as always. It wasn't sexual harassment. Considering they took a shower together after that episode it would imply they slept together. The only opinions that matter is the person it was aimed at. What he did was extremely inappropriate and it would have been an HR nightmare, but it wasn't harassment and the character didn't find it inappropriate considering said move actually worked and she boned him.
It being beyond *beep* up and extremely inappropriate ultimately means nothing if the person it was directed at doesn't see it as such. Should probably also mention harassment means ongoing after the 'victim' has made it clear it's unwanted and to stop. Putting the moves on a girl a single time, regardless of how extreme/messed up it is (that scene) and then getting shot down isn't sexual harassment. If he continues to do so THEN it becomes harassment.
Looks like I kept my nut ^_^ As always it's another case of people not actually knowing what sexual harassment is labeling things as such. Lucy just became a girl willing to sleep her way to the top, not a victim of sexual harassment.
Sorry but you're wrong. If it's in the workplace all it takes is one time. If she didn't go along with it she could have brought charges and had his ass.
shareIt's beyond sexual harassment. I can't imagine anyone stating otherwise... unless they are doing it themselves.
share"If it's in the workplace all it takes is one time."
Not according the the literal dictionary definition and what the law books say.
Yes, she could have got him into major trouble for what he did, as it was beyond inappropriate, but it still wouldn't be sexual harassment. As harassment means ongoing after one makes it clear to stop.
Technically, if a chick has a boyfriend, all advances made by men are 'unwanted' but yet men do not know that. So following the whole 'unwanted' logic anyone who asks said chick out is guiltily of sexual harassment since it was unwanted, which is what I'm getting at. But said men did not know and cannot read minds. Asking a chick out AFTER she said no is indeed harassment. But yet at the same time there isn't a single woman here who's ever said no, then ultimately changed their mind when a guy was persistent. Funny enough women doing that whole "playing hard to get" is a huge variable as to why sexual harassment occurs.
The character wasn't harassing her. He was being an uber creep and exposing himself.
Technically people are wrong when it comes to knowing what 'harassment' is. Whilst most companies would file that under sexual harassment it's more so a blanket statement to apply to numerous things.
"...there isn't a single woman here who's ever said no, then ultimately changed their mind when a guy was persistent."
Wh-wh-WHAT? You're trying to be clever, OK. Because that might be the most asinine statement in this whole thread. Must not be very many women posting here because I can't believe they didn't jump on that one.
"...there isn't a single woman here who's ever said no, then ultimately changed their mind when a guy was persistent."
Wh-wh-WHAT? You're trying to be clever, OK. Because that might be the most asinine statement in this whole thread. Must not be very many women posting here because I can't believe they didn't jump on that one.
You obviously have no idea what sexual harassment is. I would assume it's because you may never have held a job, or maybe never read the packet that comes with your employment letter that has the words 'Human Resources' on it.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+harassment
Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when
submission to such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual's employment,
submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual is used as the basis for employment decisions affecting such individuals, or
such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's work performance or creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment. (29 C.F.R. § 1604.11 [1980])
"Unwelcome sexual advances" Which is one of the definitions of sexual harassment. But how does one know if it's unwelcome? That's my entire point. Technically anyone who has a boyfriend all advances would be unwelcome but last time I checked we are incapable of reading minds. My point was, some morons think going up to a girl and asking them if they'd want to get dinner or coffee is sexual harassment. That is false. Any woman that attempts to file suit for sexual harassment will lose 100% of the time.
Don't take my word for it. Just look at the staggering amounts of sexual harassment claims they are thrown out or are not taken seriously at all.
I really wish women keep this kind of *beep* up though. Every day that goes by more and more are waking up and realizing that women ultimately aren't worth it. When that time fully comes, women will have one hellacious problem on their hands.
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submission to such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual's employment
Well I bet you feel stupid for making such a hilariously wrong statement. And if you claim you don't, you really should.
People who try to make assessments before they watch a tv show or movie are idiots.
Well I bet you feel stupid for making such a hilariously wrong statement. And if you claim you don't, you really should.
Um. We're talking about you making a blanket statement about something you hadn't even watched yet and how stupid it is to do so. That's all.
shareI do believe I stated at least 3 times that I hadn't got to the scene yet. I also stated, that going by my person history and experiences with people whining about sexual assault/harassment only for them to be incorrect.
Turns out..I was correct. So I mean..It's not sexual harassment if the girl wants it and ends up *beep* you. So again, I was right. As always.
Da *beep* you replying to me for.
are you five? What are the beeps supposed to be.
shareare you five? What are the beeps supposed to be.
Try and keep up. When your boss gives you a promotion, then jumps out naked at you. That's sexual harassment. If it goes further, then it's rape.
maybe the op was referring to the nerd puking all over the place.
shareI, too, found Nina Arianda's puffer fish face gross, yes.
And yes I'm a misogynist. And yes I'm a sexist. But just the right amount. 😉
That's not a wink to negate what I just asserted. Just a wink of affirmation.
On a slightly related note, anyone else get hungry when they hear the word 'misogyny'? Weird how that works.
Funny you mention Trump... when that scene could have been pulled word for word from Bill Clinton's actual harassment and rapes.
shareSilly comment. Stick to Disney movies if this offends you, snowflake.
shareLOL, yes, that shiz is gone!
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Watched the entire show, not sure what you're talking about actually. Fish guts? Naked guy in office? Or are you a sexist that have a problem with lesbians?
No *beep* idea what you're refering too.
edit: nevermind read your other comment, and yea I agree with you it is sexual harassment, the problem is that he's rich and powerful and thus can seemingly do whatever the *beep* he want.
Out of all the despicable things he's done including defending criminals, you find that gross?
He promoted Lucy to first chair, what exactly did she expect? It's not like she deserved the promotion.
It's a David Kelley story. So there's sexual tension all over the place. Anyone notice how downplayed the sexual tension is when it comes to Billy's interests?
Lesbian sexual tension in the office, naked genitalia, hmmm. Legal assistants who hook on the side.No one comes out looking good in their private lives. Another day in Kelley land.
But it's 2016, so this is not going to look like Ally McBeal.
good lord. It's borderline rape.
shareI saw the whole thing didn't know what you meant.
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