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What kind of sense does it make for a country fighting a war on two fronts to waste valuable resources operating gas chambers and crematoria to destroy thousands of prisoners around the clock? The Nazis didn't even have enough fuel supplies for their tanks at one point but somehow the death camps kept on going.

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Why, it's almost as if the crazy Nazis were crazy Nazis.

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Do you deny that the transport of Jews from France, Netherlands, Slovakia etc did not occur?

The Nazis initially tried to relocate the Jews peaceably - see the Haavara Agreement and the Madagascar Plan. Hardly the actions of genocidal monsters who wanted Jews wiped off the face of the earth.
The Nazis opposed the Jewish Bolshevism that was spreading throughout Eastern Europe and permeating spheres of German society. Rooting out this threat meant that a lot of innocent people were guilty by association. That doesn't mean, however, that they were systematically exterminated.

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So you don't have an answer for the irreconcilable numbers of those "misplaced".

Do you have any scientific evidence that a single person was gassed to death? Nope, didn't think so. 

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Yep. Boilerplate talking points and an absolute inability to defend them. Welcome to the "intellectual" terrain og Holocaust denial.

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Exactly

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Yeah, it's almost as if they were dogmatic lunatics, isn't it?


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Yeah, it's almost as if they were dogmatic lunatics, isn't it?

Why, it's almost as if the crazy Nazis were crazy Nazis.

Really... that's the best you've got? 

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Yes, the best I have is the truth. What's the best you have?


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If I could stop a rapist from raping a child I would. That's the difference between me and god.

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Not all I've got, by a long shot. But clearly all you deserve. Come up with something that isn't just one more sad retread of decades-old Nazi talking points, and maybe you might deserve a better answer. But I doubt it.

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The question you need to ask yourself is this; what does coal, wood or coke (fuel for a crematorium) and hydrogen cyanide (poison for the gas chambers) have to do with tank fuel?

Has it ever occurred to you that Hitler and his minions were whacked out cupcakes who couldn't run a country properly or save themselves when they needed it most?

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Good point. At whom did Der Führer fire his last bullet? Churchill? Stalin? Truman? Nope, just Schickelgruber. While hiding like a rat in a rathole as his regime was being destroyed above him.

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Crematoria. The only industrial practice that has become less efficient since that magical 3 year lolohoax period. I reckon it must have been all that super combustible zyclonb.

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Crematoria. The only industrial practice that has become less efficient since that magical 3 year lolohoax period. I reckon it must have been all that super combustible zyclonb.


Once again you make a claim and provide zero reason to believe it. Do you actually think your hoaxer buddies are that stupid?

From what I've read bout the crematorium in use by the nazis, the manufacturer specified a three day heat up with coal then as long as the bodies that were shoved in weren't too emaciated, the body fat would keep the heat up enough to cremate the remains for a long time.

So what is your explanation of why this was not efficient? Oh that's right; look, a squirrel!

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Yeah, this is another of those things these guys get from the crank Leuchter. Modern crematory practices are all about the sanctity of the remains, so bodies are burned only one at a time, with a cold start and a cool down. The Nazis didn't give a damn about the sanctity of the remains; if they thought Jews were literally trash when alive, how much more so when they're dead -- pile 'em in, the more the merrier.

And this is not exactly new news. The apples-to-oranges comparison of the Topf ovens and a modern mortuary crematorium is just another one of those old, stale, and long-debunked lies that Holocaust deniers tell each other.

I notice from your clip that Kid Named-After-A-Jewish-Song Charlemagne is also struggling hard with the science of hydrogen cyanide.

Sometimes you just have to say: "What an ultra-maroon."

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Crematoria. The only industrial practice that has become less efficient since that magical 3 year lolohoax period. I reckon it must have been all that super combustible zyclonb.

Hilarious, isn't it?  We don't have the technology to gas and incinerate people on that scale today, let alone 70 odd years ago. Those dastardly, chemistry-defying Nazis!

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Exactly, the figures are incomprehensible to the point of ridiculous. I'd don't doubt atrocities were committed but not on that scale - nowhere near.

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Unfortunately for you, historians aren't bound by the personal sense of belief and/or disbelief of internet amateur self-appointed "experts." They are bound instead by the evidence, which overwhelmingly shows the scale of the Holocaust, the existence of the gas chambers, and the Nazi policy of genocide against the Jews. Against that, you're spitting in the wind.

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You sound like you question the facts. Who do you suppose all of those emaciated bodies, bones, teeth, possessions belonged to? Do you believe it was all staged? Just curious about your position, considering the question you pose.

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You sound like you question the facts. Who do you suppose all of those emaciated bodies, bones, teeth, possessions belonged to? Do you believe it was all staged? Just curious about your position, considering the question you pose.

Those "emaciated bodies" belonged to the typhus and starvation victims when the camps were cut off from food and medical supplies. Revisionists don't deny that people were sent to concentration camps, the bone of contention is that there was an extermination program involving gas chambers and crematoria.

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Spot on. There is not one single piece of physical evidence to even indicate one single person was gassed to death. And we're supposed to believe there were millions killed this way? It's ludicrous. You'd think with so many alleged cases to choose from they could give us one name of a gassed person, but they can't even do that.

This is how it usually goes:

"Millions were gassed!"
"OK, name one."
"ANTI-SEMITE! NAZI!"
"I just want a name."
"NAZI!"

The whole thing is a scam. People will were willing to say anything for reparations.

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Name one of the "sick" people?
Name one?
I just want a name.

Your whole argument is a scam. And a horrible one at that.

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Have four for the price of one.

Samuel Mandel died from influenza on the 26th of March 1942;
Tibor Pollak died from heart failure on the 26th of July 1942;
Albert Janos died from sepsis on the 10th of August 1942;
Tadeusz Jaworski died from typhus on the 22nd of August 1942.

Can you name a "gassed" person?

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Can you prove the existence of someone whose existence was erased? Entire argument debunked.

Can't wait to read your book...

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Oh, and how "convenient" that ALL the burnt remains were ONLY from sick people... The lack of logic amazes me.

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Prove the existence of someone whose existence was erased?


Oh the fallacy of your point. If their existence was completely erased then how does anyone know they ever existed? They've been completely erased, remember. So how can historians put a total figure on these allegedly erased people? How can they prove these "erased" people were murdered if there is no proof they ever existed in the first place?

Laughable!

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Right, cause the remains of millions of people, along with the testimony of thousands, footage, pictures, and countless other evidence... proves nothing and means the Holocaust never happened at all. Pathetic.

Laughable (again, stealing my insults I see. No surprise from a wretch like you.)

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the remains of millions of people


The remains of millions of people, the alleged victims, have never been recovered, you idiot.

testimony of thousands


Only a handful of people actually claimed to have witnessed anything to do with genocide, you idiot.

footage


There is zero footage of anything relating to extermination, you idiot.

pictures


There are no pictures of anything relating to extermination, you idiot.

countless other evidence


What "countless other evidence"? There is no evidence, period, you idiot.

You still haven't told me how one can tally up "erased people". I can't wait for this one...

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WOW, you REALLY proved all those claims wrong... you IDIOT LMAO. (Again that's sarcasm in case you didn't notice like all the other times)

Do I even need to respond to that pathetic excuse for a rebuttal?

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Yes, I did prove all those claims wrong by stating they don't exist. If you think I am wrong and wish to counter me, you do have to respond. If you are able to counter my points, do so. It can easily be done if you can do any of the following:

Provide some evidence for the existence of the remains of millions of exterminated people;

Provide the names of "thousands" of people who witnessed anything to do with extermination;

Provide footage of an extermination;

Provide a picture of an exterminated person;

You can't provide any of the above because it doesn't exist. You lose again.

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As you continue to "pretend" you're not reading this point...

Prove that all of the burnt human remains were ONLY those that were sick. Which is the basis for half your argument.

If you can't, which I know you can't, you'll be exposed for the lying wretch you are.

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"Exposed for the lying wretch you are."






No more dead Lannisters
No More dead Trolls

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LOL thanks for proving my point! Hahahaha another pointless post not proving a single thing. Awesome job, wretch.

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