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Did anyone else feel like the bullying of El was a bit over the top?


Especially at the skating rink, they took over the intercom, they skated around her in a big elaborate scheme insulting her, then that dude tossed a milkshake on her, she was tripped at school and had her project stomped on. It was just too much imo, it felt so over the top.

They was being ruthless to her for no reason at all, just a big gang of them constantly laughing at her and torturing her.

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I mean.. Is that even close to how bullying looks in America? I wholeheartedly agree that it was insanely over the top.

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No, that type of bullying only exists on TV. It's silly actually.

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That's what I thought. Something tells me bullying in the US looks pretty much like bullying here in Sweden.

The one thing that was true though, is that no one interfered.

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Over the top but in a very 1986 way. The Duffer brothers often play to the cliches of the movies in the time the show is set.

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Oh for sure.

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I think that part could be borrowed from Carrie. The same superpowered individual being bullied by school kids.

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I thought that that was the intent for sure.

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I mean.. Is that even close to how bullying looks in America? I wholeheartedly agree that it was insanely over the top.


It comes close to what bullying was back then.

Here is a man recalling his bullying story from almost 40 years ago.

https://youtu.be/ofXJTKCI0NU

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Yeah, it was ridiculous.

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Yes, way over the top. She makes fun of her "dead" father too. All while her b/f, who claims he was bullied all the time, just sits by and watches it all almost completely play out and instead of running to her to get her out of there, he argues with the DJ to shut off the music. Then everyone, including her b/f, sympathizes with the popular girl when I'm sure she was bullying other people too. I thought the whole scenario was terrible.

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Yeah that pissed me off how Mike just stood there letting the bully's circle around her insulting her, humiliating her while he argued to get the music shut off when he should've went and grabbed El and got her out of there and told those pricks off.

Then one of the dudes throws a milkshake on her, i'm sorry but who the fuck would not kick the living shit out of that guy if he did that to your girlfriend? Mike did NOTHING, then yeah as you said he even sympathized with the bitch who was torturing her in the end cause El hit her, which is what he should've done to the dude who threw the milkshake on her.

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To be fair, Mike is too skinny and frail to fight anyone but yeah he should have at least tried. LOL.

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When I was in high school, I was 5'10 and weighing in at a whopping 127 pounds soaking wet. And I was in a lot of fights. I might be some geek with nerdy hobbies, but I also had a real short temper.

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Yeah regardless of how big you are, i don't care if i was Mike's size i'd either kick his ass or i'd get my ass kicked but if some dude threw a milkshake on my girlfriend we'd be fighting. Standing there doing nothing looks way worse than if you get your ass kicked, cause at least you showed you care enough to try.

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He also had Will there. Not the best backup you could ask for but at least enough to make the bullies wonder if it's worth staying and starting a fight or not.

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Yes, Mike and WILL pissed me off.
Will just watched her get bullied 2-3 times.
I was saying "DO SOMETHING!"

Wusses

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That was the only thing about this season I didn’t like. More the fact that nobody in the entire skating rink, including her boyfriend and friends, thought that the bully deserved to get drilled with a skate. Haha.

Everyone in that place saw what the bullies did to El, but no one seemed to think her standing up for herself was justified, and El herself didn’t say to any of the cops or her friends “Did you not see what they did to me??? She deserved it!”

Otherwise I thought this season was great! Love the “A Nightmare on Elm Street” vibe it has going. Really looking forward to the second half.

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Yeah, nobody was behaving logically so I wrote off the whole thing as an obvious plot device to get El found by Matthew Modine after being arrested.

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Over-the-top in what way? What they did to El or how everyone responded to it? People be incredibly mean. We've seen cases where bullies encourage people to kill themselves. So that's not super unrealistic. But the whole NOBODY helping thing, I can agree. Not in 2022. Lots of people would stop it nowadays.

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I would have agreed with you if not for recent incidents that occured in my home province of British Columbia. In once case a gang of female teens chased down and surrounded another teen girl one evening, tormenting her with a stream of four letter insults. Then they forced her to kneel and LICK THEIR GODDAM SHOES.

They recorded the entire incident with their phones, then posted the videos to social media.

Teens can be evil little c**ts.


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Very different than doing it in a public place surrounded by people, many of whom where adults.

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If you think that was the worst case of BC bullying, you must never have heard of Reena Virk.

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I know of Reena Virk very well. I was living in Saanich at the time. She was drowned just a few miles down the road from where I lived.

It wasn't top of my mind since it happened so long ago, but again it confirms my comment that teens can be evil little shits. The stuff that happened in Stranger Things is pretty tame compared to reality tbh.

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Yes. As someone else pointed out, the roller rink bullying was like something out of an 80s teen movie. Likely deliberate referencing.

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I agree. Very bad bullying is uncommon, at least now, but when it does happen, it can be extremely targeted to a particular person, and very scary, and therefore very harmful to the person who is being bullied. In some ways, its uncommon-ness also makes it worse, because the person who is being bullied, really is the only one who is being treated that way. It must make them wonder, "Why me?"

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They take a lot of inspiration from 80s movies, so maybe that's why they went so far with it. The bullies in those movies could be pretty over the top as well.

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agreed its a homage to 80s film bullying. as weird as that is to say

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Yeah. It reminded me of the bullying scenes in movies like Weird Science and Just One of the Guys.

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True. The bullies in Karate Kid outright tried to commit murder, just off the top if my head.

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Not really. Things like that really happen.

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