But this season's story was about Eleven trying to figure out who she is, and where she belongs. All the other characters were secondary.
Sure, fine... so what was the point of secondary character "Kali"? Eleven is an annoying brat and the focus on her ruined this season.
Anyway, yeah, I saw the episode. So do you think these things (which?) were the point of making Kali Ma be in the show, or is that just what they did with her after deciding she would be there?
Setting up a future season, as you say, sounds like a plausible reason. Thanks for that.
I think Kali will serve a purpose in the story. She may very well show up in Hawkins next season.
You think Eleven is an annoying brat? She's gone from one prison to another (admittedly more comfortable) prison, forced to stay indoors all the time and never go out anywhere or have a life. Most 13 year olds will pitch a fit over quite a bit less than that. Considering everything she's been through, she has handled it all remarkably well.
So she's not an annoying brat because she went through stuff? I don't see the connection.
The cop trooper beard guy was right about everything he yelled at her.
Absolutely Eleven can be an annoying brat. Her powers tend to dehumanize her in a sense and the fact that she can be a brat and throw tantrums brings balance back to her human side. The fact that Eleven is a child, I’m glad they chose to reveal this side of her character, the more realistic they can portray her the better, at least for me.
I believe the cop trooper beard guy would disagree with you!
Eleven has legitimate reasons to be angry. Being stuck in that little cabin all the time is stifling, and she knows now (which she really didn't when she was at the lab) that this is not the way normal people live. Everyone else gets to have a life ... except her. Only criminals are supposed to be stuck in jail. And there's no end to her misery anywhere in sight.
Of course being thirteen she expresses her anger more like a child than an adult, throwing a tantrum. I have a daughter the same age and she does it occasionally too. Minus the telekinesis. When she storms off to her room she actually has to use her hands to slam the door. I've gotten exasperated with her just like Hopper did with Eleven. She's usually quite mature for her age, not a brat at all, but like any teenager there are exceptions - and our kids know exactly how to push our buttons when they want to. Hopper later regrets losing his temper and saying some of the things he said. If you have children of your own, you know the feeling.
Eleven is also mature for her age most of the time. I thought that scene in the cabin with Hopper was great, both for reminding viewers how young she is and to show how the relationship between them has evolved. Only family fights like that. One part I thought was interesting though: there was a brief moment there when Hopper wasn't sure if Eleven was about to hurt him. This is a kid who could kill you just by thinking about it; there's really no way to contain her, if she decides not to let you. Being a father to El comes with all the typical trials of raising a kid plus a whole bunch of issues that really lead into uncharted waters.
A teenage girl was annoying and bratty ... how could she? Hopper yelled at her ... oh my!
You must not have teenage children if you believe the characterization was out of line.
Do you want realistic characters or Punky Brewster? The writers made that point obvious.