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So who're the idiots saying this was fake??


How exactly? Coverup by the whole city?? What a bunch of morons. Great movie BTW. Very intense.

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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/bostonbombingdidyouthink20apr13.shtml

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Ah There they are. What a crock of *beep* All I see are a bunch of people in distress. Nobody is signaling anybody. Only tinfoil wearing losers see it. And why do this. To have more hate directed at Muslims. Continue the war??? What laughable nonsense.

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The problem with the pictures of the bombing larosat is that Cowboy Carlos said he was the first one to assist Jeff Bauman immediately after the bomb went off. When the photos clearly show him standing around while the guy in the sunglasses works on Bauman with the black woman. By the time Cowboy Carlos gets to Bauman 6 minutes have already elapsed. Not to mention with all the medical and police officers around why would they hand over a guy who just got his legs blown off to some clown in a cowboy hat? And I highly doubt if you lost both legs in an explosion they would put you on a wheelchair with your stumps hanging this would prevent him from bleeding out. But then again you'd have to be bleeding to bleed out.

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Keithkat, thank you. I wish more people would research and do their own thinking.

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That's not "research" OR doing your own thinking.

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Ddey, oh thanks dad, I guess I'd better believe you because YOU say so. ? I won't respond to close minded ppl again so make your evil comment (calling me names) and smirk in satisfaction of yourself for getting the coveted prize of last word said on an IMDb board.

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Ddey, oh thanks dad, I guess I'd better believe you because YOU say so. ?

No, just believe things like common sense. The twoofer accusations aren't based on common sense. They're based on lies about America and it's allies, and in later years phony scientific-sounding jargon to give it credibility like the SO-CALLED "experts" that Topher keeps repeating over and over again. Perhaps you should learn carefully about some of the "experts" that Topher lionizes. Niels Harrit got his ideas from that phony twoofer crocumentary "9/11 Mysteries" which had fake explosion noises edited on a home video of the collapse of the towers. Kevin Ryan had tested water at Underwriters Laboratories, and had no contact with the steel from the towers, so everything he says is BS too. David Chandler thinks the fires were small, when reality proves otherwise. Richard Gage, the man who got these "experts" to sign his BS petition was duped into believing the propaganda of David Ray Griffin on the radio, and since then has regurgitated the same crap, but tries to use his career to manipulate it into credibility.

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Ddey, you have got to be one of the most obvious disinfo SHILLS i have seen in a while. "Twoofer"??? Really bro? ...C'mon, more subtlety man! You guys are literally "giving" yourselves away. I'm not gonna even bother getting into 'talking points' about this ludicrously obvious HOAX with you. Because i know whose payroll you are on, and I'd be going in complete circles with you, wasting my precious time.

One question i do have though....a dead-serious one: How do you live with yourself? (selling out your own human race like that, i mean)? Really, i am curious to know the answer. Doesn't it bother you that you will be spending ETERNITY burning forever & ever & ever for this?? For what, a few bucks?? Is that all we are all worth to you man?

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The only disinfo comes from you twoofers. You morons cling to the same lies. If we don't think the government is to blame for every massacre carried out by every psychopath and bloodthirsty terrorist out there, we're all "shills" on somebody's payroll. Not only is it a farce, it's a stereotypical one that's far too obvious to anyone familiar with your BS. And that "twoofer" name is a long standing description of inhumane jerkoffs such as yourself who claim to be seeking "truth" when in reality you have no interest in it whatsoever!



Because i know whose payroll you are on,

No, you just THINK I'm on somebody's payroll, because whatever cult you belong to told you to think that way of anyone who rejects your moronic little delusions!


How do you live with yourself? (selling out your own human race like that, i mean)?

I'm not selling out a damn thing, ass-wipe!


Doesn't it bother you that you will be spending ETERNITY burning forever & ever & ever for this??

No, because I know that I won't!


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Shut up, Topher!

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The real reason is simple to anyone that is wide awake. They need to suppress free speech because it is exposing so many frauds that are within the movie industry. It has everything to do with free speech hurting sales in the industry and exposing frauds and NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THESE CORPORATIONS HAVE AND CAN SPEND TO MODERATE IT IF THEY WANTED. It's all about shutting us up so they can lie.

For instance, all the movies about 9/11 are based on lies and propaganda, and that isn't debatable anymore. The Patriot's Day movie is based on a fraud, wake up people, the Boston Bombing was a false flag and the comment section just proves people are waking up.

did you know on 911, two airplanes symmetrically collapsed THREE buildings, and the third building collapse was accidentally announced live on tv by the BBC and CNN 23 minutes before it collapsed. that proves the media was reading a pre planned script, it proves that cavemen did not demolish the three buildings with two planes. can two cars cause three separate devastating accidents?

watch "Experts Speak Out" to see forensic proof by harvard phds and the best of the best experts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw2vaEg

Kamal Obeid
S.E. Structural Engineer
"Structural engineers and other building professionals need to understand that these buildings did not fail the way they are claimed to have failed."

Scott Grainger
P.E., Forensic Fire Protection Engineer
"Structural steel frame high-rise buildings simply do not collapse due to fire."

Ed Munyak
P.E., 25-Year Fire Protection and Mechanical Engineer
"Even one global collapse would have been extraordinary, but to have 3 occur in one day was just beyond comprehension."

David Chandler
B.S Physics, M.S. Mathematics
"People with scientific and engineering backgrounds are looking at the 3 WTC collapses, and what they see is very definite evidence of explosive demolition, as opposed to a "natural" catastrophe."

Jerry Lobdill
B.S.Ch.E., Physicist/Chemical Engineer
"All the eyewitness testimony and video evidence supports only controlled demolition as the cause of destruction for all 3 WTC buildings."

Robert Podolsky
M.S., Physicist/Engineer
"All 3 WTC buildings fell way faster than they would have had there been any resistance from the lower part of the building."

Gery Warner
P.E. Mechanical Engineer
"Molten aluminum is silver. It looks like mercury. The molten metal pouring out of the South Tower is indicative of molten iron, not aluminum.”

William Brinnier
25-Year Architect
"Not hit by a plane, with small fires and little damage from debris, there was just no logical explanation for Building 7 to come straight down through what was the path of greatest resistance in under 7 seconds."

Dan Barnum
FAIA, High-Rise Architect
"The tops of the buildings were basically disintegrated."

Frank Cullinan
P.E., Civil Engineer
"It was shocking how fast the buildings collapsed. Tens of thousands of structural connections had to fail not only nearly simultaneously, but in sequential order.”

Anthony Szamboti
B.S.M.E., Mechanical Engineer
"The tons of molten metal under just the three WTC buildings that collapsed made me realize that what we're being told about how they collapsed is false."

Casey Pfeiffer
S.E. Structural Engineer
"Even if a floor were to collapse it still wouldn't be able to collapse all of the connections simultaneously at the rate that it did without secondary explosions."

William Rice
P.E., Civil/Structural Engineer
"Watching Building 7 collapse in under 7 seconds, after watching the Twin Towers collapse, I think most anyone would recognize these as controlled demolitions."

Steven Jones
Ph,D., Physicist, Former Brigham Young Univ. Professor
"Molten metal in the basements of all three buildings. What is this molten metal? Direct evidence of the use of thermite."

David Gregg
Ph.D., Chemical Engineer 30 years at Livermore Laboratories
"The only way that's known that a carbonaceous material can cause steel, or iron oxide to turn into a molten metal is in a blast furnace. And that's very different than what we had."

Kevin Ryan
B.S. Chemistry, Former Mgr. Underwriters Laboratories
"Thermite -if it was present at the World Trade Center, and created this molten metal that so many witnesses and photographic evidence shows would also explain potentially the fact that fires could not be put out at Ground Zero."

Jody Gibbs
35-Year Architect
"The Twin Towers fell at a speed which can only occur if the vertical structure has been removed."

Robert Kim Ireland
B.S.Ch.E., Chemical Engineer
"3 buildings collapsed on 9/11 but there were only 2 planes, that means the third building, WTC 7, had to collapse for some other reason."

Jason Cheshire
B.S.Ch.E., Chemical Engineer/Metallurgist
"1400º hot spots at the WTC for over a week indicates that there was something very hot going on below the surface."

Kathy McGrade
B.S., Materials Engineering
"In an office fire, you cannot generate enough heat to melt steel."

Mark Basile
B.S.Ch.E., 25 Years in Materials Analysis
"I've independently seen thermitic activity within 2 separate independent samples of world trade center dust. All of the characteristics of the micro-spheres tell me that thermite was used in melting those steel beams."

Robert Podolsky
M.S., Physicist/Engineer
"All 3 WTC buildings fell way faster than they would have had there been any resistance from the lower part of the building."

Niels Harrit
Ph.D., Chemistry
"A new investigation is needed that includes looking for remaining explosives and
thermitic materials in the WTC dust."?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5UyynjxAyw&t=2s


google "sloppy sniper/grieving father" to see David Wheeler play two roles at Sandy Hook. He goes on tv and pretends to grieve a dead kid, but he also dressed up as a swat team member for the public to see.

google "robbie parker" and see him laughing and smiling before getting into character and starting to pretend to cry, on the day or day after the "shooting"

google "norman cassiano" to see how he got shot four times with a military round .223 and was released from the hospital the next day

google "Angel colon" to see how this fraud claims to be shot in the hands, but is shown in a hospital bed stretcher in plain clothes with zero injuries on his hands.

these people are all frauds, the istanbul shooting is so fake, watch the crisis actor reposition himself without any ounce of pain, no blood, and all he cares about is talking about how he wants to fight the shooter. wow who believes this garbage?

the media psychologically terrorizes people with propaganda to have them further the hate and wars. they contribute to death and the destruction of the middle east.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Ef4e4Ml7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPaHwHS_Ag&t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd5wXcd5EhA

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Since you've repeated these lies, I have to repeat the truth.

The real reason is simple to anyone that is wide awake.

The trouble is, you're anything but wide awake.

For instance, all the movies about 9/11 are based on lies and propaganda, and that isn't debatable anymore.

Wrong! It's your idiotic conspiracy theories about 9/11 that are based on lies and propaganda, and you morons refuse to get this fact through your collective thick skulls.

The Patriot's Day movie is based on a fraud, wake up people, the Boston Bombing was a false flag and the comment section just proves people are waking up.

That's another lie, but you ass holes couldn't care less because the only thing you're interested in is spreading anti-American propaganda. And none of you people are "waking up" to a damn thing.


did you know on 911, two airplanes symmetrically collapsed THREE buildings,...

Once again, that lie has been disproven, but you insist on promoting it, along with the gullible retards on your list who signed Richard Gage's petition. Gage himself fell for the same lies when he was listening to that whacked out theology "professor" David Ray Griffin. Neils Harrit got it from a copy of "9/11 Mysteries," which had fake explosion noises added to home videos of the collapse of the towers. Everything else you said about the survivors of the Sandy Hook Elementary Massacre, the Orlando Night Club Massacre, and that attack in Turkey is a crock of *beep* too, but you don't care. All you care about is making up lies against America and it's allies!


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I was there.

And I sleep pretty soundly, despite knowing people like you exist.

Tell me, when are your books coming out about the "truth"? Can't wait to read them...

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well, you're either really stupid or a shill working for the governmnet propaganda mahcine.

No, YOU'RE the one who's really stupid, and you're working for an anti-American propaganda machine.

did you know on 911, two airplanes symmetrically collapsed THREE buildings, and the third building collapse was accidentally announced live on tv by the BBC and CNN 23 minutes before it collapsed.

Did you know that no matter how many times you repeat that lie, it's STILL a lie? And so are your phony "experts" who are nothing more than lackey for twoofer cult gurus!

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Youre right it was actually 5 buildings. 3&4 were demolished as well. Good eye.

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Nope. NONE were demolished. The towers were hit by the planes, and all the other surrounding buildings were hit by the towers.

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Were you there? You probably weren't. And I can assume it because from experience not a single person that was there that day would say that those buildings were hit by the towers.

This is a really weird convo to have with american people because you people seem that you don't wanna believe it. Is it because you want to defend your government? because you refuse to acknowledge the corruption? because you are afraid? is it because its so damn stupid of a situation that "it cant be true, it has to be made up"?

What is it? I'm honestly curious about it.

If you have the opportunity to hear Mikki Willis tell his perspective on the incident, please do so, its really touching as a story.

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And I can assume it because from experience not a single person that was there that day would say that those buildings were hit by the towers.

Actually, they do and they knew this from the beginning.


Is it because you want to defend your government? because you refuse to acknowledge the corruption? because you are afraid? is it because its so damn stupid of a situation that "it cant be true, it has to be made up"?

More like because your accusations are flat out lies that defy logic and reason, and are strictly smear campaigns against America.



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"flat out lies that defy logic and reason"


How so? And why would I have something against america? you people pay my bills... and I actually love the country, unfortunately I can't live there right now, but given the opportunity I would.

Btw do you have any proof that you were there that day since you obviously were there and heard what people said?
they do and they knew this from the beginning


Cause I don't really mind to give you proof that I was helping there that day, just to get the "lies" part out of the way. There's not a single reason for me to hate your country or to create any lies about it, the reason I believe it is simply because I don't have any arguments against the facts. And well, your counter argument is basically "you are liars", which is an opinion, not a fact. Between 1001 facts and your opinion I chose to believe in the facts, thats all.

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who're

That's not a word / a correct contraction of words.

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Really? Look it up in the dictionary genius. It is in fact correct. As is the fact that only the most pathetic cellar dweller nerd woukd think this was fake. Did they kill the young boy too for realities sake also?? What a bunch of losers.

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No, Einstein.

It's a neologism that is not a recognised word any more than "alot" or "bigly" are. Sure ― plebes (like yourself, obviously) will avail it to... errr... save a single space () ― but such "alternate facts" do not fly with >90-IQ demographics (i.e., non Drumpf-voting burger$). 🇺🇸 <3 o===8 🇨🇳

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Topher, well done. The evidence is there. People are too quick to close their minds and insult the ones who's minds are open. Everyone needs to think for themselves and actually READ.

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That's not evidence, Lisa. That's a bunch of gullible idiots with titles to their names who signed a petition written by a deluded architect who fell for a twoofer cult leader being interviewed on a radio show.

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Great post!
I've had so much fun watching the Sandy Hook reporting, because no one ever died.

9/11 is horribly sad that over 3000 people had to die for the Bush mongerers to start wars...
100 floor buildings that come down in 10 seconds, yeah that makes sense!

But SH is the best for the laughter aspect of it all.
The parents are all smiling like they won the lottery!

But there is no use in trying to break through people that are in a deep state of denial.
Reality for them is what TV says.

Sad.

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They didn't die for any "Bush-mongers" to start wars. They died because Al-Qaida wanted to start a war, and for the record, NONE of the buildings came down in 10 seconds.

Let me fix that last line for you:

But there is no use in trying to break through people that are in a deep state of denial.
Reality for them is what internet conspiracy websites and the cult leaders who run them say.


There we go.

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You have to be the world's biggest moron to think this was any kind of a hoax or set up.








"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."

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Dammit Topherb420, you're still repeating these lies.

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Stop trolling. No one listens to or believes anything you say besides other trolls like larosat.

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Go to hell, Skinless Pea-brain. It's YOU TURDS that nobody believes, other than your fellow cult sheep!

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Keep thinking that is true. Discussion boards like this one would NOT be disabled if the genrral public was believing you government shills.

The public opinion IS being swayed, thus censorship. If you were believed, the boards stay up. That simple you computer program.

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Discussion boards like this one would NOT be disabled if the genrral public was believing you government shills.

No, they're being disabled because you deluded twoofer cult sheep are misusing them for your enemy propaganda.


The public opinion IS being swayed, thus censorship.

No, the censorship is due to the BS you people start on these boards!

If you were believed, the boards stay up.

It has nothing to do with that, Skinless Pea-Brain. It's about ass-wipes like you turning these boards into flame wars.


That simple you computer program.

"Computer program," HAHAHAHAHAHAH! This is why people like me insult people like you. That and the fact that the accusations you make are insults to the victims of 9/11 and other attacks!

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Lol come on... they don't ACTUALLY believe the nonsense they spew... They're just trying to appeal to the mass amount of really stupid people, because those are the only people gullible enough to fall for their delusions. They do their best to hide behind the "just trying to find the truth" fasad... but most of the time their hate beams through like the sun on a cloudless day.

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I wish that were true, Mikey.

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Yeah, so do I...

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LOL I didn't realize the Imdb boards were the extent of your "free speech"...

I mean are you serious? People making fun of delusional retards like you (and rightfully so), are the reason the boards are closing?

Logic clearly eludes you completely.

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