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How would one go about defending himself in a situation like this?


In the novel that Edward has written, the incident at the highway was really disturbing in that he feels so powerless to stop the thugs from touching and taking his wife and daughter.

What are some ways of defending ourselves in a similar situation?

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Simple don't be fliping off someone in the middle of the road.

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Don't honk at people either.

I walked out of this movie after the highway accident scene.

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OMG, that's so stupid.

Sure, no one ever honked at anyone on a highway before.

You walked out? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sounds pretty teenage to me.

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The point is that in this particular situation it was quite obvious (to me) that honking was asking for trouble. Both purposeful jamming the road and honking are about balance of power, though the first one is kind of more vicious.

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I walked out too. I was disgusted.

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Why walk out - what are you achieving with that?

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I walked out within the first minute, it was that bad.

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After the highway accident scene, it only got worse

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The highway scene could have used some paring down. Way too long.

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That’s not what the OP is asking. You’re already in the situation. What do you do?

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Carry a gun

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Carry a gun

Unfortunately, as we all know or should know, the gun-owner's daughter is statistically far more likely to have found the gun and accidentally shot herself, or her daddy, than it be used to defend the family against armed thugs.

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Cut the anti-gun (and anti-common sense) rhetoric. It's stupid, it has been debunked a thousands times before, yet anti-right to defend one's life loons still parrot it like it was their religion. What statistic are you talking about exactly?

A responsible dad, would have taken the daughter to a shooting course, learned all the safety measures and whatnot. So accidentally shot herself, no, that's just short-sighted and moronic.

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There are about 85-90 gun deaths per day in the USA. More than terrorism. Last year, more than 30 toddlers killed someone with a hand gun in the USA (I think it was 43?)

...and yes "statistically" you are more likely to die to your own gun or kill your family than you are to defend yourself. But if you don't have a family you don't need to worry.

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But if you don't have a family you don't need to worry.

Unless you're unconcerned by the possibility of shooting yourself by accident. Gun-owners always claim they are all vigilant with their weapons, but there are multiple videos on youtube of these idiots shooting themselves accidentally.

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Really? "as we all know" you are listening to the media too much....

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As you know - or should know - NRA lobbying prevents the CDC from collating statistics on gun deaths. The Washington Post and other private sources have gathered information which reveal 34 innocent people die by gunshot for every criminal killed in self defense.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/

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@ tigerfish50

either way, being anti-gun is pretty much anti-American if you ask me.

just because some bad things happen with guns you can't penalize all of the gun owners because of it like the liberals want to do who pretty much want to ban guns if they had the power to do so. thank God for the NRA ;)

also, guns can be used for sport or hunting etc. not all of it is self-defense even though it's still nice to have one for self defense just in case you get into a bad spot as without a gun your pretty much screwed where as if you got one at least you got a chance.

also, if you stopped the average person from owning a gun then basically all of the criminals would have them and if they know the common person is much less likely to be armed they might be more likely to do stuff they otherwise would not do like break into peoples homes etc.


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either way, being anti-gun is pretty much anti-American if you ask me.

Either way, being pro-gun is pretty much pro-imbecility if you ask me.

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Man, posting a Washington post source. No bias there, eh?. Guess I should post a NRA source.

I'll just leave this here, an actually objective source:

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

BTW, you continue to ignore the fact that a woman the age of his daugther would be ver unlikely to be playing around with guns.

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When there are countless videos on youtube illustrating gun-owners' carelessness, stupidity and drunkenness with their weapons, why do you hold on to your pathetic delusions about their vigilance, intelligence and sobriety?
These videos include gems like a cop demonstrating gun safety managing to shoot himself - and there are many more of these tragi-comic performances. Of course you're cut from an entirely different cloth, and would never become another statistic, right?

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Corruption within the CDC is rampant. If they can suppress the true data on long term effects of vaccines on children, flu and pneumonia shots on adults and elderly, they would easily present data on gun deaths. I know more people who carry than don't. No one's ever shot themselves yet. Most shoot regularly at a range or on their property for practice. Typically, if a person carries a gun, they most definitely know how to use one.

There were so many moments in this movie that if he carried a gun, saying it's on him and not in a glove box hidden away somewhere, the movie would've been over. He even could've shot their tire out, then pulled away. There's a reason they made him gunless. What did the other three have? Greasy hair and bad words?

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Nonsense. Post the data to support that statement.

And the daughter is old enough to know not to play with guns.

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Post the data to support that statement.

I've previously done so. It's very well known data too.
Try to dilute your profound state of ignorance and look it up yourself.

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the gun-owner's daughter is statistically far more likely to have found the gun and accidentally shot herself, or her daddy, than it be used to defend the family against armed thugs.


Wow you just gave me a good laugh. Way to come up with magic statistics in your head. Before you mention the ridiculously stupid and biased link from the Washington post; let me make something clear. The idiotic "34 unjustifiable homicides for every 1 lawful homicide" quoted in that article is basically talking about something that maybe you didn't quite understand.

The criminal homicides that account for the "34" are mostly talking about INTENTIONAL criminal acts committed by people. These are mostly situations like gang members shooting each other, someone purposely murdering someone, a firearm that was fired while committing another criminal act etc. Accidental shootings make up a very very small percentage of the "criminal homicides."

Basically what that means is those were mostly all situations where people had the INTENT to kill and did so. They are not accidental shootings. In fact most of those shooting were committed by criminals who don't follow gun control laws in the first place. So more gun control laws would do absolutely nothing to stop most of those situations from occurring.

So the likelihood of "your daughter accidentally shooting herself" is a very illogical conclusion to draw by comparing justifiable homicides to criminal homicides. Maybe next time you can try to come up with a more believable argument when pushing your biased anti-gun agenda?

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That's why everyone should carry

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Don't take that road!
lol,I knew something bad was coming when he said he liked the west texas because there's no people or cell reception!...

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If he had a license to carry a gun, and made sure both his wife and daughter knew how to use a gun, and carried three guns in the car, that would a sure fire way to get out of a situation like that.

But as it stood, his daughter not flipping off the driver would have probably helped.

Also when you see a car playing chicken in the on-coming lane, you know they're crazy. Maybe don't honk and maintain some space behind them.

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And not driving around in a sh!tty lawnmower might help.

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But seriously though even though there's no signal I think the 'emergency calls only' should be able to work right? I watch few videos, people involved in a self accident stranded no where without help filming their last moment until their battery wore out. No clue they could actually call emergency hotline. No offense to those people.

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It appeared really strange to me that none of those (American!) characters carried a gun.

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I could be wrong, but i believe that was the point. Tony didn't even put up a fight, knowing the men didn't have a gun. Even when he was dragged out of the car and left at the dead end...zero fight in him. He's weak.

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I don't understand why he never tried to speed off but that was symbolism when he did not put up the fight back at the restaurant scene where the mother tells susan that he is weak that part of the book shows his weakness

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Tony was a pus*y. I kept screaming at my scream why he didn't fight back.

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Regardless of what the overseas press may say, most Americans don't have guns. Not only that, but most of the ones that do have one do not carry it in their car. I've been on this planet for more than 50 years (in the USA, no less) and I have never owned a gun. I have no intention of ever owning one, either.

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I've been on this planet for more than 50 years (in the USA, no less) and I have never owned a gun.

A lot of Vin Diesel fans have strayed onto this board. They sit in their mom's basement and delude themselves all of life's problems can be solved by a Bushmaster and some martial arts moves

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Tell me your address and what valuables you have in your home please.

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Go back to the Suburbs.

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I don't think you know what that word means.

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Indeed. The novel is symbolic for his marriage to Susan. He considers himself weak for not having fought to make it work. Susan is represented by the criminals, the nocturnal animals, who brutally killed his wife (marriage), daughter (whom she literally killed) and ultimately himself.

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It appeared really strange to me that none of those (American!) characters carried a gun.


I bet you're some snobbishly naive European who has never been to America but thinks mass shootings are a common and that everyone carries a gun or is very rich or whatever other ignorant stereotypes I can't think of.

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Perhaps you think that the United States is more gun friendly than we really are?

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