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Hate women and minorities? Then don't watch.

posted 8 years ago by !!!deleted!!! (49761343)
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I'm so sick and tired of these *beep* threads every single time there's a show with minorities and women in it.

And people who take offense to my comments--spare me your whiny exhortations that you're being wrongly accused of being sexist or racist and your long-winded excuses explaining why your objections are based in something substantive (like "historical accuracy," "demographics," etc.). These threads pop up whether minorities and women show up on ANY TV show or movie, whether it's a sci-fi that takes place 100 years from now or a period show that took place 100 years ago. No matter what the genre, you guys come up with some kind of ridiculous reason to justify your objections. If it's a period show in the 1800s, you complain about blacks and women being on it because it's "inaccurate," but then when it's a sci-fi show in 2130, you object for other reasons, like "Stormtroopers were all clones of so and so, so there can't be any black stormtroopers" or "Blacks are only 20% of the population, so why are there so many of them on Minority Report." It never fails.

If you hate women and minorities that much, then go watch a show or movie that's 100% white male or go complain on Stormfront. But stop cluttering the boards with this crap. It's annoying and BORING.

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[–] anatja 8 years ago

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[–] popedon1 8 years ago

These are the same droids who think Obama's doing a great job -- despite the fact that everyone's "racist". More make-believe problems. This is the only show with women & minorities (white men). ** eye roll **

[–] thesnowleopard 8 years ago

And I am sick of threads like this. Rewriting history sucks.

Newsflash, sunshine: The all-white, all-male history you were taught in school was inaccurate. Britain was at the height of its empire at the time and a lot of people coming to London were non-white. As for women, were they the exception in professions at the time? Yes. But they were hardly nonexistent. The Suffragette Movement didn't come out of nowhere. Those women were well educated and practicing in a variety of fields.

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[–] angrboda-giantess 8 years ago

Very well said.

This is something somebody once said, I thought it was too perfect not to quote:
"This is an explanation that covers any kind of privilege: When you're the one getting treats all the time, having to share your treats with others feels like discrimination instead of equality. When you're the one seeing others get treated and never getting it yourself, you're justifiably angry and it furthers the privileged person's idea that you, the angry disadvantaged one, are actually trying to instate a hostile takeover to ensure that you get all the treats. It's a specific kind of confirmation bias that the person with privilege sees themselves as being unfairly punished by sharing something that should have been shared all along."

Or to put it more succinctly: "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

It's not about them actually caring about "historical accuracy", they just don't want to give up the privilege of having themselves represented ubiquitously in fiction.

[–] northsouth1 8 years ago

Facts are SO unfair!

[–] hardseasailor 8 years ago

I'm an older man who loves period pieces I however want them to be true to that time, movies and television of years gone by were done that way now they are full of political correctness agendas the language used is to modern and people just don't behave as they did in that time, the reactions of people to events are not how it would have been by the people of that period. like the past or not show how it really was don't change it to promote some pc agenda .just tell a good story.

[–] mjwm44 8 years ago

It's a little anachronistic on policewomen, but not grossly so. In 1915, Edith Smith was appointed the first woman police constable in England with full power of arrest.

Before that there were volunteer women's police patrols by the National Union of Women Workers starting in 1900, assisted by male police constables.

[–] andy_woods98 8 years ago

You can't tell it how it really was. Except for the privileged, life was not a source of entertainment. For those that argue that the show does not reflect the truth. Are arguing in the wrong venue. I show does not need to be accurate, most times it stretches the truth to make the primes work. What a show should do when using our past is acknowledge the existence of the events. But not promote the false image being shown as our history. I can understand a show not wanting to tell of our countries horrors. But I also expect it to not promote the lie. This include the show not building it's primes on the lie.

Take this show. Everyone sees Adelaide as a female constable. What a lot of shows would do is make her out to be an exceptional female constable. This show is making Adelaide and exceptional constable that just happens to be female. A concept that is impossible to accurately portray. Since it would have been almost impossible for her to be seen as a capable, let alone exceptional constable. An she would have always been seen as a women first.

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[–] Tim-Buktu 8 years ago

I don't mind shows that have slight historical inaccuracies. And this show covers itself by saying it's science fiction.
But I think they would miss an opportunity if they do not show women and minorities in an historic fashion. Too many viewers have no idea what life was like for them, even in England. I would also like to see more Chinese and Indians portrayed.

FYI-For an historic glimpse of Doyles view on minorities, read "The Adventure of the Yellow Face".

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[–] EXPLICITSOUL5 8 years ago

AMEN! I read your other post on this subject and I'm with you! One guy was complaining about there being no Blacks in England. That's WRONG! All you need is a 6th grade history class, lol!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_British

Keep up the good work! Knowledge will ALWAYS win over IGNORANCE!