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Allow me to sum up this film’s premise for you if you’re reading this: The Jews have evil beliefs in their Talmud and many don’t believe most of the Torah. Modern Israel’s rebirth was backed by the Rothchilds and the U.N. and therefore it can’t possibly be a work of God. Really? So was God only good to the Jewish people in times past when they had all of their beliefs and actions correct? Or has God’s goodness to the Jewish people always been in spite of their sinfulness which is not unique and, like every other people group, only proves their need for a Savior? And I seem to remember the Bible saying something about God working through some unsavory characters and people groups in regards to blessing the Jewish people. Egypt (giving them gold as they departed from Egypt in Exodus 12), Balaam (a pagan sorcerer who decreed blessings on Israel in Numbers 22-24), Cyrus (the pagan king of Persia who in Ezra chapter 1 freed the Israelites after their captivity), and a number of others.

Anderson claims that every church father before modern times thought of the Jews as the ‘synagogue of satan’. The implication here is that everyone in the church in earlier times believed that God is finished with the Jewish people. This is absolutely false.

Here are just a few quotes from past leaders of the church regarding the restoration of the Jewish people:

“ The Lord saith all the nations shall be blessed in Abraham; hence gather that the nation of Jews shall be called, and converted to the participation of this blessing; when and how, God knows, but that it shall be done before the end of the world we know.“--William Perkins, a leader in the Puritan church in England. 1579

“the bringing home of his ancient people to be one fold with the fullness of the Gentiles…. In answer to millions of prayers put up at the throne of grace, for this very glory, in all generations.”—John Owens, church leader in England who also preached before Parliament and the House of Commons. 1649

“I think we do not attach sufficient importance to the restoration of the Jews. We do not think enough of it. But certainly, if there is anything promised in the Bible, it is this… the day shall yet come when the Jews, who were the first apostles to the Gentiles, the first missionaries to us who were afar off, shall be gathered in again. Until that shall be, the fullness of the church’s glory can never come. Matchless benefits to the world are bound up with the restoration of Israel, their gathering in shall be life from the dead.”—Charles Spurgeon, 1855

In the film Texe Marr claims that Israel never allowed Palestine to become a state. His ignorance of middle east history is staggering. The Arabs in the land said back then and many still say today that they would never accept a Jewish state, and they tried to drive the Jewish people from the land after the U.N. partition. How is this the Jews’ fault?

Tim Coleman in this film says God promises to bring back the Jewish people only after they turn to Him, but this is not what Scripture says. Ezekiel 37 foretells the conditions of the Jewish people when they are gathered back in to the land.

11 Then He said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They indeed say, ‘Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!’ 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Behold, O My people, I will open your graves and cause you to come up from your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O My people, and brought you up from your graves. 14 I will put My Spirit in you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I, the Lord, have spoken it and performed it,” says the Lord.’”-- Ezekiel 37:11-14

The bit on the 'synagogue of satan' fails to mention that Jewish people are never specifically identified in Revelation 2 and 3, only those CLAIMING to be Jews who are actually fake. The early church had many Judaizers who claimed that to be saved one must believe in Christ in addition to following the Old Testament laws, and this was addressed in the book of Galatians.

Jimenez and Anderson state that those who believe there is a Messiah but that it’s not Jesus can only refer to the Jews. Therefore only the Jews are antichrist? This is false. Muslims believe in a messiah and it’s not Jesus. There are many who don’t believe Jesus came in the flesh who aren’t Jews. To label Jews as the sole owners of the ‘antichrist’ label is not only unfaithful to Scripture, but it reeks of the anti-Semitism that has plagued the church for nearly 2000 years.


9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.-- II John vs 9-10

This II John warning is about false teachers, not all unbelievers. Anderson tries to make this connection to supporting the modern state of Israel which is like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. So are Christians commanded to never greet the unsaved or have them as guests in our homes?? Is that honestly what Anderson believes or is he again ignoring the context? Well, since Anderson has made hateful remarks against unbelievers maybe the answer is both.

Texe Marr says many evangelicals don’t think Jews need Jesus? I personally know of none, and I know many Christians who support Israel. John Hagee is not my pastor and I do not support the dual covenant theology. Jesus is still the only way to Heaven but this is not mutually exclusive with God bringing the Jewish people back to their land in these last days.


Anderson claims that having a circumcision of the heart and spirit makes you a Jew in God’s eyes. That’s odd, because I have never come across any New Testament passage in which Christians are labeled as Jews. Why even call them Christian? Why not just use the label of Jews to avoid confusion? In fact, around 200 or more references are made to Israel and the Jews in the New Testament alone and they almost all refer to those who are ethnically Jewish. There is a distinction when the Bible refers to Jews and when it refers to Christians. I encourage you to study this for yourself if you really want to know what the Bible says on this matter.


This 'documentary' ignores verses that speak of the Jewish peoples' return to the land in the last days. Here are just a few of them:

It shall come to pass in that day
That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time
To recover the remnant of His people who are left,
From Assyria and Egypt,
From Pathros and Cush,
From Elam and Shinar,
From Hamath and the islands of the sea.
12 He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth
(כָּנָף Kanaph).—Isaiah 11:11-12

The first return from the nations was not from Egypt (one nation) but from exile in the Babylonian Empire, a mix of conquered nations. And this is for the outcasts of Israel-- the rejected ones who were not welcome in the nations of the earth.

 
כָּנָף (kanaph)
I.                        wing, extremity, edge, winged, border, corner, shirt,
wing
extremity
i.                        skirt, corner (of garment)
 
The four corners of the earth in Isaiah 11:12 could not be referring to Babylon of the 2nd exile since it did not cover the whole earth. With Ezekiel 37 and the valley of the dry bones showing Israel coming back to life and returning to the land, how could this possibly be referring to Christians? If Christians are now Jews like Anderson claims, does this mean that all Christians will be brought into the land of Israel? Of course not!

Jesus prophesied of a time when Jerusalem would be returned to the Jewish people.

20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.—Luke 21:20-24

So not only does the Old Testament speak of a returning of Jewish people to the land, but Jesus also said there would come a day when Jerusalem was no longer ruled by Gentiles. From 70 A.D. to 1967 there wasn't a single Jewish ruling presence in Jerusalem, and Jews were banished from the Western Wall. That changed about 48 years ago. Nearly 1900 years of Jerusalem being trampled by the Gentiles came to an end with the Six Day War in 1967.

The week that Israel declared independence in May of 1948, this was in the Haftorah reading portion:

I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;
They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them;
They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them;
They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land,
And no longer shall they be pulled up
From the land I have given them,”
Says the Lord your God
.—Amos 9:14-15

Only God could make this happen. Most of the founding fathers of Israel were secular so it's not like they would have been paying much attention to the Torah and Haftorah readings.

Ezekiel 38:8 specifically refers to the latter days as a time there will be 'those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely.' No other people group has been without a country for nearly 2000 years and survived.

How many 4th or 5th generation non-Jewish immigrants to the United States still keep their culture from their ancestral homes? How many of them still speak the language, and how many are completely absorbed and 'Americanized' by this time? The vast majority have assimilated by then and are just as American as the next American-born citizen. Not so with the Jewish people.

How many people groups have been uprooted from their homeland multiple times, been driven into exile and scattered, and lost their central language only to return as a unified nation 1900 years later? There has only been one.

Israel in these modern days is truly a miracle of Biblical proportions. And I haven't even mentioned all of the miracles in the wars of 1948, 1967, and 1973 that have kept this nation alive. For more on those I highly recommend the DVD set 'Against All Odds' by Michael Greenspan.

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