Why is it "not a big deal" for a man to be raped?


Someone posted a suggestion that in the 4th movie they should have a man being raped by women and then killing them for revenge. I was thinking about that and thought it seemed silly - it's a horror movie, so of course any female characters will be attractive, and when you have a bunch of hot females holding a guy down and forcing him to have sex with them, and then he gets traumatized by it and wants to kill them, it seems almost comical and ridiculous. I even saw some guys posting saying they would love to be raped by a group of women.

I was wondering why this is though. Do men just enjoy sex more than women? Are men more easygoing? Why do people think it's horrific when a woman is raped by men, but not very serious when a man is raped by women (and if the women raping him are hot, it becomes even less serious and people actually think it's funny). Serious discussion, why is this?

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Rape is rape no matter what gender. That it's "not a big deal" for a man to get raped is BS that's slowly being revealed as such. Men can be raped too whether the rapist is male or female and the trauma is no different.

The point of rape isn't the sex, it's the loss of control for the victim and a sense of power and control with the rapists. Worse than that, it's done using an act that's supposed to be intimate and an expression of affection between two people.

As to men who say they'd "love to be raped by a group of women" that's either a fantasy where, in their own minds, they have some measure of safety or they just don't know what they're talking about.

Rapists act without any regard to their victim. It's all about the rapist and they don't care about things like consent or safety (which was quite clearly and brutally demonstrated in both the original and the remake and its sequel). In fantasy role-play, you have rules and safe words. Rapists don't use that. Victims also don't have a choice in whether their rapist is "hot" or not, where, when, for how long or whether you get to walk away after it's over (if at all).

Plus, attractiveness is relative. You could have someone physically attractive but have that attractiveness undermined by their actions.

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The point of rape isn't the sex, it's the loss of control for the victim and a sense of power and control with the rapists.


I've heard that this is one of the worst parts of it for the victim. However, what if someone just ties you up and beats you instead of raping you? Or if they just tie you up and don't do anything to you? Or if they tie you up and force you to do something random, like eat a food you don't like? In these cases the loss of power/control is still present, just without the sex, however most people probably wouldn't see any of these things as being on the same level as rape. Why?

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Agreed, you still get a feeling of violation whether it's walking to your car to find that you've got a broken car window and less than $50 of items missing or being kidnapped and beaten up. (The former still makes me paranoid years later even in safe areas making me go out in the middle of the night to pull fuses from my car's engine compartment along with bad dreams where my car is damaged. Thankfully, I haven't been through the latter.)

But remember that rape uses what's supposed to be an act of intimacy and love and twists it into something horrible that stays with a survivor for the rest of their life. It's worse because you can't just dismiss it and become intimate in the bedroom.

Plus, there's still a lot of stigma (not to mention stereotypes) associated with rape that makes the situation even more difficult than it is. Throw in a corrupt Sheriff and it's a wonder that Jennifer actually opened up to McDylan at all. I honestly don't think I can do justice by describing it.

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So Samuel L. Jackson's warm black dingus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q0LuS_gpj4 is comparable to Jigsaw's various methods of torture?

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From a psychological standpoint? Absolutely.

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"The point of rape isn't the sex, it's the loss of control for the victim and a sense of power and control with the rapists."

That's not true, and thankfully many psychologists and psychiatrists are starting to acknowledge as much.

For SOME rapists it is about power and control. But not all. Perhaps not even most.

http://quillette.com/2016/01/02/to-rape-is-to-want-sex-not-power/

EXCERPT:

In the 1975 bestselling book: Against Our Will, the feminist writer, Susan Brownmiller, asserted that “rape is about power, not sex.” Ever since, the conventional wisdom has been that rapists are misogynistic men seeking domination and power over women, not violent men seeking sex.

However, there is a fundamental problem with Brownmiller’s bold assertion. In the ensuing 45 years, there has been no significant empirical research to support her claim. Yet, almost everyone repeats it.

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I would like to see a movie addressing not just this, but the injustice that men face. Most often a boy or may is labeled a homo if they report such crimes, and killed in other countries.

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Feminists will cry blood if this happens, would be cool though some innocent family man being tortured by a bunch of man hating bitches judging them all the same and either him or his wife getting revenge doing nasty *beep* to them.

These movies aren't aiming for academy award acting nor good story lines, they just want to be remembered for "that" particular scene that everyone talks about.

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There are groups that already cry blood. This movie sparks debate. Debate is a good thing.

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The men saying they would love to get raped by women are thinking about some ideal fantasy where they pretend they don't want it and perhaps to a certain degree lose control, all fine as long as the females are jaw dropping hot and don't do anything he doesn't want.
I don't think these men would still think it's fun and hot once a 300 kilo heavy bald ugly old woman with saggy tits walks up to him with a 30cm long fat dildo.
That doesn't mean this same guy won't enjoy experimenting with an attractive woman with a reasonably sized strap-on.

Real rape is sex against your will. By definition it can't be pleasant if it's against your will.

As for a next movie idea, it'd be refreshing to have a male victim for once, indeed. But then it'd be more believable if it were men raping a man. Or just stop making new movies in this "series", 1 was great. Two was ok. 3 is too much.
A 4rd would have to be reaaaally good to save things.

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"I don't think these men would still think it's fun and hot once a 300 kilo heavy bald ugly old woman with saggy tits walks up to him with a 30cm long fat dildo."

If she weighs over 600 lbs I'd imagine she'd have some trouble getting out of bed, let alone raping a man with a strap on. Regardless, I'd pay to see that movie. ;)

I think they could make a sequel where the man is getting revenge on a group of women if the women were made REALLLY unappealing, perhaps ruining his family life, stealing his *beep* assaulting him in some way. Doesn't even have to be rape. Perhaps even kills his children, which I'd love to see in graphic detail... haha

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If she weighs over 600 lbs I'd imagine she'd have some trouble getting out of bed, let alone raping a man with a strap on. Regardless, I'd pay to see that movie. ;)
You'd wanna see such a thing? Eeew, nasty!

I think they could make a sequel where the man is getting revenge on a group of women if the women were made REALLLY unappealing, perhaps ruining his family life, stealing his *beep* assaulting him in some way. Doesn't even have to be rape. Perhaps even kills his children, which I'd love to see in graphic detail... haha
I follow you, up till where you start about killing children. Even though it'd be fiction of course, I can't imagine ever getting any kind of joy out of such a thing. It's different when it's done to someone who has done bad things. But a child is innocent. I wouldn't wanna see that in graphic detail as you put it.

Did you ever watch "The bastard out of Carolina"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115633/
Don't let the cover photo fool you. It's not a happy romantic story in the south.
It features the sad childhood of a girl named "Bone", played by a stunning Jenna Malone.
Her mother is craving for attention from a man, and always picks out the wrong ones. The current one she choose is an abusive jerk and loves to blame Bone for everything that goes wrong. He assaults her physically, and eventually also sexually. There is a scene near the end of the movie where he rapes her.
It's not all on camera of course, but what you see is enough to make your stomach twist around. He punches her face as she fights back and she's bleeding.
Nope, this ain't jolly and fun. With all respect, but if you actually enjoy seeing such scenes, acted or not, there is something wrong with you. :/

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A person can be physically attractive and still be ugly if he/she's a rapist.

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It's a biological thing, men actively seek to impregnate women for breeding and the survival of the species, with as many as they can for greater success, it's in the genes and cells of human beings.

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but why do the women have to attractive?





i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black

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EDIT AND SHORT VERSION:
Only sadistic rape would work on screen.
Also, let's just say that I am not interested in discussing the so-called "gender identity" that some people keep pushing and that I am posting this comment for people who know that men and women aren't the same. Here I will argue how men can get raped by women and why it would be hard to make it convincing on screen.



LONG VERSION:
Female rape on male is possible, although very difficult, unlikely and extremely rare. There have been stories in tabloids that were completely made up, but there have been real stories of men who were raped at gunpoint or drugged and raped. They were raped with the help of viagra or some kind of bondage which somehow kept the penis erected. The victims who endured the second treatment had to be hospitalised in every case which is not surprising....and even the thought of that makes me uncomfortable, must have been very painful.
Of course, most of the people who read such articles joked about it in the comments, not because they thought that the real rape is funny, but because they believe that every story like this is made up. I do not blame them. I used to believe that too.
But think about it....if lesbian rape with no penis invoked is possible, then female-on-male rape is possible too, despite biological advantages that men have. Not every women is attractive and not every men is attracted to every woman.

I would belong to one of those men since you cannot rape the willing and I am not picky (:D)....in my case, it would either have to be a relative or someone extremely ugly or hideously deformed. You see....the problem with female-on-male rape is that men are different than women. We think differently than women. Our penises are faster than our brains. Many of us would welcome a casual sex with confident and aggressive woman asking no questions and tearing our clothes. Even if a woman attempted to rape a man, there would be a small chance that her "victim" was actually a willing slave :)
There was one case of a woman who drugged and kidnapped her male victims and one of them stated that if she just asked him that he would let her (she was caught because her victims were hospitalised because she used the method I described earlier).
But most men who claim that they would enjoy if a woman attempted to rape them aren't aware that they probably wouldn't enjoy it and would get raped for real. Most men are way pickier than me and they wouldn't want to sleep with every woman. Some rapists are sadists, so they definitely wouldn't like that part.

Anyway, I am just taking into consideration all possible circumstances. A movie with female-on-male rape theme would have to take all of this into consideration.
A movie could work if female rapists were some kind of female gang of insane, repulsive, unattractive, butch female rapists who drug and rape their victim and keep his penis erected with some kind of bondage (this is an extreme example). It wouldn't hurt if they were sadistic, literal misandrists with a motive. Their sadism would have to be absolutely shocking, creative....something that would make an average viewer's stomach turned...stuff like forced bestiality, a tool that some real sadistic rapists used. Or making the male victim rape his own sister while threatening to kill her slowly if he disobeys (based on real cases), only to actually kill her afterwards and secretly serving him her meat for several days before revealing the truth to him.

Attractive and skinny female rapists would probably doom the movie from the start because an average male viewer would probably just laugh at it....unless a talented, competent director made their sadistic rape completely *beep* up, so *beep* up that the look of the actresses didn't matter. But even then, a wide range of women would be better. Perhaps it would work if the leader of the group was a manipulative woman who looked like an angel but was the worst monster you couldn't even imagine in your worst nightmares, someone that doesn't even rape but gets off on things like forced bestiality or making the guy eat his own faeces.

...I am full of ideas right now. And don't think it's just my imagination. Cases like these often end up in the news.

While I am convinced that the movie like this won't happen...I still hope that I am wrong.

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Of course, most of the people who read such articles joked about it in the comments, not because they thought that the real rape is funny, but because they believe that every story like this is made up. I do not blame them. I used to believe that too


People who make comments like those tend to be immature on many levels.

We think differently than women. Our penises are faster than our brains. Many of us would welcome a casual sex with confident and aggressive woman asking no questions and tearing our clothes.


There's a problem with that. Some people may interpret that as basically saying is that all men are animals that cannot control themselves and say yes to any attractive woman no questions asked.
Contrary to what you think, many guys have actual self control and have enough intelligence to know when a situation's too good to be true.

A movie could work if female rapists were some kind of female gang of insane, repulsive, unattractive, butch female rapists who drug and rape their victim and keep his penis erected with some kind of bondage (this is an extreme example). It wouldn't hurt if they were sadistic, literal misandrists with a motive. Their sadism would have to be absolutely shocking, creative....something that would make an average viewer's stomach turned...stuff like forced bestiality, a tool that some real sadistic rapists used.


Why would they have to be unattractive in order to be believable? Perhaps their beauty can be used as weapon as well.

Attractive and skinny female rapists would probably doom the movie from the start because an average male viewer would probably just laugh at it....unless a talented, competent director made their sadistic rape completely *beep* up, so *beep* up that the look of the actresses didn't matter.


It wouldn't if the characters and storyline were properly developed.

BTW, someone actually made a short film about this very subject.
It's called She Was Asking For It. Written and directed by Matthew Saliba.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1082873/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
I managed to find this and it's some truly disturbing sh*#.

This would be a template to start for a feature film.




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