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These actors have no range.


Kristen Stewart: She's always the indecisive, insecure woman choosing between a sensitive lanky guy and an imposing hunk. She always does that annoying gesture of blinking too much and touching her face and her hair a lot and she calls it acting, pathetic.

Jesse Eisenberg: Always the Mark Zuckeberg, with his ticks and talking too fast, I love him, but he needs to expand as an actor.

Steve Carell: His past three movies he has been the snotty rich guy who gets everything he wants. I would like to see him play a serious role that has nothing to do with having a lot of money and arrogance.

Blake Lively: She was Adaline from "The Age of Adaline" again minus the confidence.

The rest of the actors were great (and probably got paid less), and I was overall satisfied with the cinematography and the music, but I just really want these actors to improve their, uhm, Acting. They need to swim in different waters.

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Carell was fantastic in Little Miss Sunshine, so you should see that.

As far as I can tell, you would have the same dislike for Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart, Henry Fonda, and thousands of other actors who often played s string of familiar roles. I do not think his character of Bobby was anything like Mark Zuckerberg not did I notice any ticks. I thought the did very well going from the naive fumbling boy to the glad-handing, confident impresario.

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I guess you're right, out of the ones I mentioned, Eisenberg perhaps had the most believable character development, but the voice inflections he uses are pretty much the same in every movie, maybe he just needs to work on his voice a little. And I will take a look at Little Miss Sunshine, thanks for the recommendation.

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These are all wonderful actors, beautifully cast. I don't understand what people have against them and the director.

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I like most of these actors, and you are right, the casting was pretty efficient, they worked well together. If this had been the first movie I had ever watched with all of them, I would have no gripe, but unofrtunately, I haven't seen them perform a variety of characters with an assortment of emotions. They all seem to play it safe with very neutral characters. I want them to cry profusely, to laugh extremely hard, to act silly, to get rabidly angry, and to transition from one emotion to another seamlessly, because that is acting.

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What you're asking for is not acting it's PMS. I refuse to pay 10 dollars to see someone PMS.

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Liitle Miss Sunshine is completely extraordinary and brilliant. Certainly a far better movie than Cafe Society.

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[These actors have no range.]

In the case of Kristen Stewart and Jesse Eisenberg I have to agree that they seemed completely out of place in a period piece. The script is hemming them culturally in a way that seems anachronistic to their performances.

Also, the two simply lacked any mutual chemistry. I think of the flat emotional scene on the bridge in Central Park and think of how it would have been played by Barbara Hersey and Michael Caine circa Hannah and her Sisters. I mean, honestly, it's not that Stewart and Eisenberg aren't in their league- they're not even paying the same sport.

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Woody Allen's best work is brilliant, so I keep an eye on him. But this film didn't touch me at all. With respect to the topic of the actors having no range, my sense is that the actors have done better work elsewhere, and if they didn't shine here it's the fault of the writer/director. I think the story didn't have an organic soul; things just happened as a matter of routine, but I was left with no feeling of a meaningful dramatic arc. Was there any genuine love or chemistry? Did you believe in the girl loving either of those men, or of agonizing over the choice, or choosing as she did? I got no sense of characters; only caricatures going through the motions. It was technically proficient but cold. That's my 2 cents.

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Ikroger, you hit it on the head! Kristen Stewart simply didn't have the talent or range to deliver this role. When the script called for anything marginally demanding she fell flat: She couldn't cut it when she had to tell Jesse that she was marrying Steve, or in the nightclub when she was called upon to act like a shallow, gossipy Hollywood wife. The depth, maturity, commitment, drive and passion needed to make this role work simply weren't there.

Jesse Eisenberg: He's been a competent actor every other time I've seen him, but just like Stewart, although slightly better, when he was called upon to stretch he didn't have it. I can't help but compare him, vastly unfavorably, to Kenneth Branagh, who also played "Woody Allen" in Celebrity. And when he poured on the fake, smarmy charm I wanted to puke! Right after fighting an overwhelming impulse to jump into the screen and punch him in the face. He was woefully miscast and out of his depth when he was wearing the white tux in the nightclub and walking around with that unctuous smile on his face trying to charm everyone. Sorry, but Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca he is not!


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Kristen Stewart: She's always the indecisive, insecure woman choosing between a sensitive lanky guy and an imposing hunk. She always does that annoying gesture of blinking too much and touching her face and her hair a lot and she calls it acting, pathetic.


While this may have been true about the way she performed in The Twilight Saga films, none of this could be applied to her critically acclaimed performance in Cafe Society.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion, here are what top film critics are saying about Stewart's performance as Vonnie:


What is it about Stewart on camera? Her relaxation is remarkable, and yet she is alert and precise, reacting to every flicker of emotion, every tonal shift in the other actor, often in ways that are unexpected and yet unmistakably true. It’s as if her years in those ghastly “Twilight” movies were spent in the witness protection program, and now, finally, she can be herself. She is easily the best thing about this movie, just as she was the best thing about “Clouds of Sils Maria” and almost the best thing in “Still Alice.” ~Mick LaSalle http://www.sfgate.com/movies/article/Caf-Society-is-a-pleasant-and-8401027.php







Eisenberg is solid. But that doesn't stop Stewart from acting circles around him. And the film works best when only we in the audience are privy to Vonnie's dilemma — when the camera fixes on the quiet dance of shame and uncertainty on Stewart's face. It's a surprisingly physical performance; Vonnie's indecision practically consumes her. The young man's inevitable disillusionment is familiar and touching, to be sure, but hers is transfixing. We want to see more of her. ~Bilege Ebiri http://www.villagevoice.com/film/in-caf-society-allen-finds-a-story-worth-telling-but-mostly-tells-another-one-8850458







Carell is excellent at showing Phil's desperation, his neediness and his quiet, hidden empathy, but the real star is Stewart, who is quite on the run these days. She has a near nothing role but turns it into something a little daring, a would-be Girl Friday who sees all the angles and makes the smart play while never losing touch with her inherent goodness. ~Will Leitch https://newrepublic.com/article/135123/cafe-society-go-west-young-neurotic







It’s easy to see why he might have believed that; Stewart is irresistible here. Allen is a legendary director of women, and Stewart’s performance is shockingly good, awards-caliber work. The shallow sullenness she displayed in the “Twilight” films is invisible. Here she’s held in extended close-ups, stunning not just for her beauty but for her presence. ~Colin Covert http://www.startribune.com/with-cafe-society-woody-allen-delivers-lovely-look-at-old-hollywood/387819361/








The standout, though, is Stewart. Her Vonnie is a complicated character who transforms from down-to-earth girl to jewelry-drenched arriviste, but Stewart somehow embodies the inconsistency and makes us believe her. ~Rafer Guzman http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/caf%C3%A9-society-review-jesse-eisenberg-kristen-stewart-shine-in-woody-allen-s-latest-1.12045195








Bobby’s first love, a Veronica known as Vonnie ( Kristen Stewart), is Phil’s adoring and more or less adored secretary; thus those complications, and a performance by Ms. Stewart—a career best in my book—that makes neurotic indecision alluring. ~Joe Morgenstern http://www.wsj.com/articles/cafe-society-review-depression-era-delights-1468520476?tesla=y








Everyone's in love with Kristen Stewart. You can't blame them. This weekend, she's the romantic heroine in two indies — Woody Allen's Café Society and Drake Doremus's Equals — and when Stewart's green eyes gaze at the camera, your heart stops. ~Amy Nicholson http://www.mtv.com/news/2904700/behind-green-eyes/







But it’s Stewart who is the most memorable here, playing an emotionally conflicted woman torn between two men and two lives; she is both seduced and repulsed by the siren song of Hollywood. ~Cary Darling http://www.dfw.com/2016/07/20/1121645/allens-bittersweet-cafe-society.html








The players do their best with the thin material. Carell seems a little stiff in his supposed love scene with the much younger Stewart. But Stewart nearly steals the movie as she plays “beauty” is such a down-home, understated manner that you can see why so many male members of this family have fallen in love with her. ~Kirk Honeycutt http://honeycuttshollywood.com/cafe-society-review/








Once employed, the young man promptly falls in love at first sight with Phil’s secretary, Vonnie (Kristen Stewart, lit like an angel), unaware that she’s carrying on a secret affair with her boss. Allen, never shy about paying homage to his influences, is partially reworking one of the greatest comedies in Hollywood history, Billy Wilder’s The Apartment. (There’s even a New Year’s Eve scene, in case the plot parallels weren’t plain enough.) If the comparison isn’t flattering (how could it be?), the director enriches his romance by exploiting some preexisting star chemistry: Café Society is the third film to pair Eisenberg and Stewart (after Adventureland and American Ultra), and the two make a perfunctory courtship feel unstudied, even natural—no small feat, given that they’re delivering latter-day Woody dialogue during their map-to-the-stars dates around L.A.

Stewart has the trickier task of making a person out of an object of desire, and though Allen eventually betrays the character’s spirit for the sake of a larger point about fluctuating ideals, the actress still radiates a distinctly down-to-earth charisma. ~A.A. Dowd http://www.avclub.com/review/cafe-society-lends-bittersweet-glow-woody-allens-s-239412







Does Allen fill Vonnie in or is she one more of his mysterious female others? No, he doesn’t; but no, she isn’t. Stewart is alive onscreen. Her Vonnie feels all there, even if we don’t have a full picture of what’s inside. ~David Edelstein http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/movie-review-cafe-society.html







And in Café Society, buoyed by the nuanced performances of Stewart and Eisenberg, the 80-year-old Allen creates a ravishing romance shot through with humor and heartbreak. ~Peter Travers http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/cafe-society-20160713








Jesse Eisenberg, Kristen Stewart shine in Woody Allen's lightweight 'Cafe Society' ~Joe Dziemianowicz http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/jesse-eisenberg-kristen-stewart-ace-woody-allen-cafe-society-article-1.2708405







'Cafe Society' review: Kristen Stewart, Jesse Eisenberg enliven otherwise dull nostalgia

Then again, the cast is pretty wonderful, particularly Jesse Eisenberg and Kristen Stewart, who conduct a stealthy acting class throughout "Cafe Society." They remind us that even routine banter and sentiments can be made to work with a light touch, a little sincerity and the right faces in close-up.

Stewart and Eisenberg clicked beautifully in the lovely '80s-set romantic fable "Adventureland," and their subsequent film careers have become triumphs of the narrow-range but first-rate actor. All actors have their limitations, but with certain ones, dazzling versatility is neither their goal nor their forte. Eisenberg and Stewart are remarkably similar in their techniques. They hang back. They're great listeners. Their know how to keep a scene moving, and how to pierce even an obvious moment of conflict or revelation or plain old exposition with a little arrow of truth. They have never been more appealingly glamorous than they are in Allen's 1936-set seriocomedy, located in never-never Hollywood and grubbier, vital New York. ~Michael Phillips http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/sc-cafe-society-review-0705-20160721-column.html







The performances, too, shy away from the nutty and the broad, and Carell, a master of the brave face, does a fine job of suggesting the strain behind Uncle Phil’s bonhomie. Better still is Stewart, who, despite the girlish touches in her outfits (headband, white ankle socks with strappy sandals), reveals a woman veiled in ruefulness, and her final moments, in which Vonnie muses on paths both taken and spurned, are a lovely act of suspension, done without a word. ~Anthony Lane http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/11/cafe-society-and-life-animated-reviews







Eisenberg has no trouble supplying the requisite neurotic quotient as the nominal Allen stand-in, but Stewart is good enough to almost make you wish for another version of The Great Gatsby just so she could play Daisy, and Carell layers his initially stock Hollywood big shot in unexpected ways that pay off rewardingly. ~Todd McCarthy http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/cafe-society-cannes-review-892693








Stewart, with her sensual combination of wised-up and innocent, does much to tamp down Eisenberg’s more frenetic actor’s tics. ~Peter Rainer http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2016/0715/Cafe-Society-is-a-mixed-bag-for-all-its-smoothness







Fresh-faced, buoyant and unaffected, Vonnie is very much a change of pace for Stewart, but one she handles with her usual skill and aplomb. ~Kenneth Turan http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-cafe-society-review-20160711-snap-story.html







Review: Stewart shines in Woody Allen’s ‘Café Society’
Vonnie is never far from the frame, and Stewart brings extraordinary balance to a role that could easily be one-note or duplicitous. Her headstrong self-confidence radiates off the screen in a deft performance that deserves to be in the conversation come Oscar time. ~Adam Graham

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/movies/2016/07/28/movie-review-stewart-shines-woody-allens-cafe-society/87692754/








The film barely plumbs the shallows of the N.Y./L.A. celeb swirl, but it is not without its pleasures. Stewart and Eisenberg make a cute if not magnetic pair, her cool reserve meeting his neurotic bluster (he’s an obvious Allen surrogate), and Carell, Lively, Stoll and Berlin also have moments of genuine wit and sanguine insight. ~Pete Howell

https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/movies/2016/07/28/reel-brief-caf-society-vaxxed-phantom-boy-keanu-and-high-rise.html








In his best performance since “The Social Network,” Eisenberg is perfectly cast as the neurotic Bobby. But the film truly belongs to Stewart, who brings to Vonnie a haunting luminousness.

A love story drenched in nostalgia, “Café Society” is a film of rare beauty. ~Calvin Wilson

http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/woody-allen-s-caf-society-is-a-bittersweet-treat/article_bc2373b8-65c9-5a7e-8f19-201f2f87b965.html







Kristen Stewart’s performance in the role, which blends gravity and lightness, glamour and its opposite, is certainly the best part of “Café Society,” but it also exposes just how thin and tired the rest of the movie is. ~A.O. Scott http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/movies/cafe-society-review-woody-allen.html?_r=0







Its only memorable quality is a performance from Stewart so present it almost throws the movie off-balance, suggesting more complexity to her character than seems to have been on the page. ~Alison Willmore https://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonwillmore/theres-a-reason-everyones-talking-about-woody-allen-and-not?utm_term=.crGLNrn84#.pkvKNZAJO







With intermittent romantic sparks struck between Eisenberg and his co-star, a poised and glowing Kristen Stewart, “Café Society” is likely to draw a larger swath of the Allen audience than his last two, “Magic in the Moonlight” and “Irrational Man.”

Stewart makes you touch the reality of that line. She sheds some of her own halting mannerisms to play a woman of warmth who, with a twinkle, holds her ardor close to the vest, and the mood of quiet confidence fits the actress beautifully. ~Owen Gleiberman http://variety.com/2016/film/reviews/cafe-society-review-kristen-stewart-woody-allen-cannes-1201771214/







As for Stewart, she’s without doubt an alluring screen presence; you can’t take your eyes off of her. ~Ann Hornaday https://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/movies/cafe-society-movie-review-upper-middle-late-period-woody-allen/2016/07/21/136d148a-3eb5-11e6-80bc-d06711fd2125_story.html





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Summerield, I agree with those, but for Christian Bale I have to give him extra points for the commitment to transforming his body, something that very few actors do to fit into the characters they play. He has been anorexic skinny in The Machinist, athletic and fit for Batman, skinny again for The Fighter, fit for The Dark Knight Rises, beer belly fat for American Hustle, immediately built up again for Exodus: Gods and Kings, and lean for The Big Short.

He can transform his body with extreme dedication, at times risking his health; he might not play such different roles, but his devotion to looking like the characters certainly makes him better than many.

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Kristen and Carell are talented actors i don't know about Jesse i have not wathced much of his work and i watched two or three movie from lively and she was bad in those movies

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Kristen and Carell are talented actors i don't know about Jesse i have not wathced much of his work and i watched two or three movie from lively and she was bad in those movies


I thought Blake Lively was good in The Age of Adaline.

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thanks i will watch The Age of Adaline next week

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what is your opinion about Jesse as an actor?

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what is your opinion about Jesse as an actor?


As a testament to his acting ability, similar to Stewart, Eisenberg made a name for himself by portraying unassuming characters in small independent films and eventually worked his way up to becoming one of the most demanded actors of his generation.

I first took notice of Eisenberg in his first starring role in the critically acclaimed indie Roger Dodger (2002) and have been a fan ever since. Since then, he has churned out noteworthy performances in films such as The Squid and the Whale, Adventureland, Zombieland, Solitary Man, The Social Network, Now You See Me, The Double, Night Moves, The End of the Tour and of course Cafe Society.

All of the previously mentioned films, with the exception of Now You See Me have received Certified Fresh ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, in large part because of his stellar performances in these films.

My only knock against him as an actor would be whether he is worthy enough to anchor a big budget Hollywood franchise. I say this because his performance in Batman v. Superman was one of his weakest, or should I say, one of his most cringe worthy performances. Perhaps, it's because I'm a huge The Dark Knight fan and regard his performance as Lex Luthor as a ripoff of Heath Ledger's The Joker.

That being said, he's achieved critical success in indie films and proved his worth in medium budget fare as evidenced by being a lead in the commercially successful Now You See Me franchise.

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I totally agree with this post, except for Blake Lively. Stewart was a piece of wood. Can't stand Steve Carrell and they have zero chemistry. Parker Posey looked horrible with that blonde hair. Overall, terrible casting.

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My my. You are as intelligent as door knob!

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I was just thinking something like this, but not regarding the actors and how they act, regarding how they acted in this movie.
how bobby talks, how he walks, his shoulders, he shows no emotions, bonnie alwys the same, veronica 2, so happy and smiling, she seems surreal, the uncle, the way he talks, how he presents himself...
I couldn't understand bobby's mother's talking. I know she's jewish, but I really couldnt understand her.
I thought the other actors were great, parker posey, the thug brother (peter russo, really don't know the actos's name) bobby's sister and brother in law, they were ok.
BTW, too many close ups of bonnie with that golden tint on the screen

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